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Conflicting Stories by Martin Family About Trayvon's Last Night?
Friday, March 30, 2012 | Kristinn

Posted on 03/30/2012 12:41:49 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: TigersEye

Yes i would and I have been in a similar but non-fatal occurrence. Notification would be given to family when a true identity was determined.
But what if: Father spent night elsewhere? What if Father was too drunk or stoned?
I saw a detective on a show last night hand Ed Shultz his hat when ED was trying to pin the cop down. The Cop was not from Sanford or Seminole County as far ass I know.
One note ,there were many.
Ed asked why didn’t the cops go through the kid’s phone list and contact those parties. The Det. said because there are privacy rules and a warrant is needed
and that could take a day. Then records by Phone companies sometimes takes days. ‘If you don’t abide to the rules it can taint the case.” is what the Det. said.
I do not mean any of the above to be argumentive
Stay safe and have a great day!


101 posted on 03/30/2012 4:02:03 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO)
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To: FryingPan101
Have no idea how to verify something like that.

That's where the Urban Dictionary comes in. Skittles is easy: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=skittles

Can't find anything much for AZ Iced Tea, however. Tea is marijuana, duh, but iced tea, Arizona brand??

103 posted on 03/30/2012 4:04:56 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: humblegunner; Keith in Iowa

Give it a break, both of you.


104 posted on 03/30/2012 4:05:47 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

You got it.

I got chicken to fry anyway.


105 posted on 03/30/2012 4:07:15 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner; Admin Moderator

>>>I got chicken to fry anyway.

Is this “Knocking it off”?????????????????????


106 posted on 03/30/2012 4:11:41 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Yeah, except without the 20 question marks.


107 posted on 03/30/2012 4:15:20 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Vince Ferrer

SImilar thoughts, except my opinion is that parents were in denial about the child’s darker side. A person using can become very manipulative, particularly if they are playing one parent against the other.

Tray knew how to play the game, he was a decent student and was involved in community activities as a youth. He had promise. Drug use can ruin all that promise very fast.... in just months, weeks and it only takes one person’s influence to start the ball rolling.

All the rationale of his behavior, blaming others etc are pretty typical in disfunctional/substance abuse families.

I also question the parents role. Were they using Tray as a pawn. He shows all of the signs.


108 posted on 03/30/2012 4:20:27 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God anhttp://sanfordfl.gov/inved Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: cynwoody

Found it yesterday. Lace in PCP or having liquid PCP dripped on the marijuana cigarette.


109 posted on 03/30/2012 4:23:58 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God anhttp://sanfordfl.gov/inved Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
I feel that this is because Trayvon was not supposed to leave the house. He was grounded because he was suspended. But he waited until he father left, and skipped out himself. And his father would be furious. Trayvon Martin, because of his suspensions, was a powderkeg waiting to blow. The stress on him and the rest of the family had to have been enormous.

Who said Trayvon was "grounded"? If he was, his father's lack of immediate concern and the length of time it took him to discover his son's fate don't make sense.

Also, Trayvon would have known his father and his father's girlfriend were going out to dinner and would be out of the picture for a few hours, so no need to worry about being spotted out walking. Maybe it was just shorter to walk between the townhouses? Or maybe he only did that after noticing he was being watched.

The other odd thing, of course, is that the fight took place only 60 or 70 feet from the father's townhouse. The police report said they didn't wind up the investigation until 3:07 am. So, what would have been going at 10:30 pm? Cop cars all over? Yellow tape and criminalists on their hands and knees under floodlights? Or just a few detectives quietly interviewing witnesses? Or does the 3am refer to when they finished interrogating Zimmerman downtown, the on-site investigation having ended much earlier?

110 posted on 03/30/2012 4:26:57 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Paratrooper
Bad guys avoid police

P_______________________________Smart teenagers avoid strange men following them in cars and then on foot.

Martin did exactly what any smart parent would teach his kids to do...he ran away from the stranger who got out of his car to follow him.

111 posted on 03/30/2012 4:29:59 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: bgill; Brown Deer; kristinn

Brown Deer posted photos of Martin and his father and some gangsta rap “friends” on another thread, from FB. BD - would you mind posting them on this thread?

I have a question - from what I’ve read, Travyon Martin’s father was visiting his gf/fiancee. So he did not, apparently, live in this neighborhood. If that is the case, why was Trayvon staying there for his 10 day suspension.

There are many questions.


112 posted on 03/30/2012 4:30:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: hoosiermama; zeestephen
Waglist has the map of the development, with "what happened where" marked out.
113 posted on 03/30/2012 4:32:46 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: cynwoody
The police report said they didn't wind up the investigation until 3:07 am. So, what would have been going at 10:30 pm? Cop cars all over? Yellow tape and criminalists on their hands and knees under floodlights? Or just a few detectives quietly interviewing witnesses? Or does the 3am refer to when they finished interrogating Zimmerman downtown, the on-site investigation having ended much earlier?

Cops initially arrived on the scene about 7:15pm. They called in the Major Crimes Unit to investigate. I doubt they finished at the scene before 11

114 posted on 03/30/2012 4:47:37 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: hoosiermama
SImilar thoughts, except my opinion is that parents were in denial about the child’s darker side.

That's certainly true, and may be responsible for what to others looks like a cover up on their side. The photos are a perfect example. Even in the father's first statement, he gave the police a picture two weeks old, yet gave the press a picture two years old. Was it deceitful, or just delusional?

115 posted on 03/30/2012 4:52:20 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: PapaBear3625
Waglist has the map of the development, with "what happened where" marked out.

Interesting. That says the fight happened more like 400 feet from where he was staying, not the 60 or 70 feet that has been reported. It also gives a better idea how Tracy Martin and Brandy Green managed to get home at 2230 without spotting an alarming police presence.

116 posted on 03/30/2012 4:54:54 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: hoosiermama

Did you see Brown Deer’s photos of Martin’s father with the gangsta rap gents? It’s on some thread or other...if you search Brown Deer’s name for posts you’ll easily find it. (No courtesy ping because I pinged him back up the thread).


117 posted on 03/30/2012 4:57:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: hoosiermama

Hey hey - I found the thread, three photos, starting around comment 179, they should be posted on this thread, since they show the father and a group of friends too:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2864453/posts?page=150#150

Police: Zimmerman story is ‘consistent’ with evidence in Trayvon Martin shooting
Fox News ^ | March 27, 2012


118 posted on 03/30/2012 5:02:22 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Interesting theory. It seems consistent, too. Trayvon Martin didn’t get this out of control overnight. He became out of control due to lack of strong parenting, or rather lazy parenting.

If your theory is true, note that Trayvon’s father goes out with his girlfriend, leaving Trayvon at home alone. Trayvon’s gotten into some serious trouble recently, but still his father trusts him to abide by the rules. The last thing Trayvon was was trustworthy. But for the father to treat his son with the lack of trust Trayvon has earned, it means that his date with his girlfriend is off. Dad doesn’t like that option, so instead of manning-up to his parenting responsibilities, he does what’s fun rather than what’s prudent. And, now he has a dead son.

I’d say your theory is frightfully possible.


119 posted on 03/30/2012 5:09:31 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: FourPeas

“But for the father to treat his son with the lack of trust Trayvon has earned, it means that his date with his girlfriend is off. Dad doesn’t like that option, so instead of manning-up to his parenting responsibilities, he does what’s fun rather than what’s prudent.”

That’s the way I see it. I’m loathe to understand how this father would not be home with this kid after being suspended from school for 10 days and has a history of trouble at school. The family is dysfunctional and makes me suspect the dad is into drugs, too.


120 posted on 03/30/2012 5:30:48 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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