Skip to comments.Wisconsin man suspected of slaughtering 100 deer in 'thrill kill'
Posted on 03/30/2012 3:40:41 PM PDT by South Hawthorne
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Is that over the bag limit?
They really need to be killed thousands at a time in our area. I drove by about twenty of them just in the last mile of my drive home tonight.
My daughter has hit one already this year, I’ve had dozens of close calls and was actually hit by one after I came to a complete stop. I saw the doe, slammed on my brakes and while I was stopped a buck came right over fence and ran into my bumper, then stood there for a minute looking like he thought it was my fault.
I fixed a fence Wednesday that the dear tore up over the winter and we can’t even keep a garden because the antlered vermin are so thick.
What’s with Arkansas?
If you go by my experience, yes, they do wait beside the road and then jump out at precisely the right time to impact cars. They do it to me in my driveway several times a week. I honk at them to mess up their timing.
And now, thanks to the 40x increase, they're bringing our forests to the brink of extinction. The deer may be cute, but they're destroying the environment.
Interesting way you phrased that. Do they deliberately jump in front of cars so they can kill someone? Or do they actually hunt down people in the woods to kill them?
Wow, you really don't know much about deer. Take a look at the pictures posted to you, I think you'll figure it out.
I’ve hit a few here in Michigan. Last fall my aunt bought a new car and hit a deer on her way home with it then hit another the next morning on her way to the garage.
Ron White on deer hunting/driving.
I am a hunter but still laugh.
A co-worker had one jump off a bank beside the highway onto his car. It flipped a couple of times (the auto). I don’t think they were able to determine motive in the attack
Um, I’m from Wisconsin but what the heck I’ll go ahead and ask: was alcohol involved?
So, just for argument’s sake, what sort of firearm do you think would best accomplish killing 100 deer in one session? I’m thinking AR-15. It fires a high velocity round, it has a good rate of fire, and you could have several magazines preloaded in case you run across a large herd.
I’m curious what other Freepers think about this, or maybe the subject deserves its own thread?
They never said who won the competition...
You might get 2 per encounter. Ever shot at a group of deer. Once the first bullet flies all the rest is luck. They are agile and fast. Their senses are extraordinary and they are patient. Their lives are on the line you know. No way you could get a lot.
Two types of people will be up in arms about this. The Bambi crowd and the trophy hunters.I dislike the trophy hunters as much as the tree huggers for their smugness. Shoot some danged does a**holes. If you’re in in it for the meat, what do antlers matter?
It's easy to see from how you formulated your question that even you realize you've lost the rational side of the argument and are now reduced to the emotional side.
That side doen't often win on FR, and it won't win this one either.
Great photos of automobile-deer collisions. You can get killed ! Along with your vehicle.
Nature eats every bit of the carcass. EVERY bit. Nothing is lost.
Hmph, good luck getting Freepers to weigh in about guns. Not gonna happen...
Well, venison steak is an acquired taste, I think. But if you grind it up and spice it, it makes very good sausage. And certainly here in Vermont or in other deer-hunting areas there are plenty of people who would be glad to have some for the freezer.
I’m not sure what the rules are on commercial sales of deer. That may be one reason why it doesn’t normally get into groceries or supermarkets. But you can give it to your neighbors.
I guess you’ll be fine with the coyotes the carcasses draw, as well as loose dogs dragging them into your yard, then.
Nature will take care of it, right?
I was responding to your assertion that it’s not ‘honorable’ for humans not use the meat. I’m saying that other facets of nature rely on dead animals to live even more than we do.
BTW, leaving the gut’s etc. will draw as many preditors who will drag the stuff all around just like a full carcass.
I live in the country and am familiar with how wild animals treat other dead animals.
Shooting a 100 deer in one area in one night is a bit excessive, but is is a tiny start to solving a big problem, and should be encouraged.
It’s lazy, disgusting and wrong.
So what do you think would do the trick, fully auto? RPG?
coordinated artillery or driving them off a cliff
I pick up a hefty bag full of assorted bones out of the yard every spring. The dogs literally gain 10 pounds during deer season every year. A minor inconvenience.
I agree (although, I wouldn't go so far as to endorse Tibetan sky burials) & they're more than welcome to the gut pile.
I'm also all in favour of thinning the N. American deer herd. However, this isn't the way to go about it. It only hurts the image of hunters. Such wanton slaughter also violates all principles of stewardship. No religion — and especially Christianity, would condone it.
There's probably no reason to force the hunting of does. Just raise bag limits, and remove restrictions against taking does. Otherwise, I agree with your point there.
Do they stampede? I mean, could your stampede them over a cliff like bison?
Would you really need artillery or would mortar fire do?
Unfortunately, that's no longer true in many parts of the country. In most wooded, semi-suburban areas there are no cougars or wolves, but plenty of deer. The self-regulation has broken down completely.
People are so stupid as to think that they can stop quick enough going over 55 when a deer jumps out. People are so brain washed into thinking that they can go really fast, but because it is somewhere around a speed limit that means that they are safe. They don't know how to think for themselves about what speed is in reality actually safe. Trucks are the worst. The drivers often think that they are indestructible.
It's amazing how people are so concerned with their health when it comes to exercising, eating right, and not smoking but think nothing about the risks that our high speed limits are, killing hundreds all the time. Life is considered cheaper than getting somewhere fast.
I agree. There are many areas of the country (mine included) where there deer population is out of control. But the culling of the herds must be done safely, and legally. For example, one community near me recently brought in professional hunters to do the job.
The fools discussed in the article (I refuse to call them hunters) have no place in such an effort.
This wasn't the right way to go about it, clearly, but something needs to be done to reduce their numbers.
A deer IS an omnivore... just sayin’
Unlike many freepers, I think they should throw the book at these guys. If they get their hunting rights restored in a decade or so, that's fine. They do nothing but provide fodder for the anti-gun and anti-hunting lobbies.
Agreed, what these clowns did was not hunting and its unlikely that they would have seen it any different if they had killed horses, cows, or dogs.
There are a lot of deer here in Michigan but that just means we need to allow more legitimate hunting.
I live in Michigan and I only know a couple people who HAVEN'T had collisions with deer.
With that being said, I don't condone thrill kill of any animal and what these punks have done is deserving of more time in jail than what they got. Hell, the least these gutless pricks could have done was harvest what they killed and sold the carcasses on the black market.
I hope they also lost their hunting privileges for the rest of their sorry lives and had all their firearms confiscated....that's assuming of course they ever had legal hunting licenses.
They're a disgrace to the entire firearms community.
Who was he poaching from?
Who was he poaching from?
If there hadn't been a forest full of bambi around, this guy would have taken out a pasture of cows, horses, or other livestock. This guy killed to satisfy a bloodlust. Yeah, definitely the kind of behavior that needs to be encouraged.
“He committed probably the single greatest act of improving the health of the surrounding forests in the past century.”
To hell with those punks! They acted like a wolf pack in a herd of sheep with the indescriminate killing. Legitimate hunters would have volunteered to thin the herd to improve the environment AND would have harvested the meat to feet their families!
“...there is no reason for these things to be living in proximity to people.”
Indescriminate killing is not the answer! In some urban communities having too many deer, bow hunters have been authorized to hunt them, AND the residents aren’t endangered either.
Bow hunting is much safer (people tend to choose their targets more carefully due to the cost of an arrow compared to the cost of a bullet), but the fact is that those residents that aren’t in danger from the hunter instead die in car accidents with the deer. These are not endangered animals, and they are extremely destructive.
You're right. Jeff Daumer got his start that way. I suppose some here would have praised him for eliminating stray animals...
This wasn't a managed population reduction hunt, it was a slaughter for the 'fun' of killing and wounding animals.
Short hop, mentally, to doing the same from a rooftop somewhere...
Not to mention wasted meat. But I guess, bacteria gotta eat, too, right?(/sarc)
“Sounds like alot of fun...”
In the old days you would have run out of town on a rail by families struggling to earn enough to eat. In Alaska, where many villages depend on a subsistence life-style just to survive, you might even get shot yourself! SHEEESH
“I lost most of my sympathy for deer when I hit one standing in the road and totaled my car.”
He was just standing there, eh? Why didn’t you see him then? Sounds like you were messing around with something in your car, like a coffee cup, cell phone or whatever and not paying attention to your driving! SHEEESH
I disagree, he couldn’t carry 10,000 rounds anyway so give him a 20 round box of ammo, like most hunters carry! HAW
I agree whole-heartedly; but there aren’t enough hunters that can afford to pay exorbitant license costs (along with travel costs for non residents) to hunt there. Loosen up the crap regulations, eliminate high costs and INVITE us hunters to come visit. We’ll gladly take care of your problem (just tell us what we’re allowed to use when hunting - rifle, shot gun and/or archery or all three) but you folks want to have your cake and eat it too, while driving up auto insurance costs!
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