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U.S. Supreme Court takes up healthcare in secrecy
Reuters ^ | 3/30/12 | James Vicini

Posted on 03/30/2012 3:58:04 PM PDT by Lmo56

* Private conferences held with only justices attending

* Confidentiality drilled into clerks "from day one"

* No leaks of Supreme Court rulings in recent decades

By James Vicini

WASHINGTON, March 30 (Reuters) - U.S. Supreme Court justices on Friday held closed-door deliberations on President Barack Obama's healthcare overhaul law, likely casting preliminary votes on how they will eventually rule on their highest-profile case in years.

In an institution known for keeping its secrets, no leaks are likely before formal opinions have been written and announced from the bench. That is not expected to occur until late June, when the court is set to go on its regular summer recess.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: healthcare; individualmandate; obamacare; scotus; supremecourt
If I were an intrepid news organization - I would send my reporters out to tail the law clerks that work for Breyer, Ginsburg, Kagan, and Sotomayor ...

If they go to Dupont Circle/Adams Morgan to whoop it up - we know it was upheld ...

If they go to the neighborhood dive to drown their troubles - we know it was overturned ...

1 posted on 03/30/2012 3:58:12 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Lmo56

Secrets at SCOTUS frustrate the hesk out of the Left.


2 posted on 03/30/2012 4:01:39 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Lmo56

There have been a few of these “secrecy” headlines today and they are designed to whip up the liberal base and/or prey on the ignorance of voters. They are trying to make it sound like the Justices are doing something improper. Yet, they ALWAYS meet in secret. There is nothing different about this case.

Yet another example of the MSM trying to manufacture outrage and fear from a non-issue. It is only going to get more hysterical the closer we get to November.


3 posted on 03/30/2012 4:02:11 PM PDT by rockvillem
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To: Lmo56

You are an awfully smart cookie.

That’s exactly, precisely correct.

Some of them likely have Twitter feeds too. They think they’re anonymous right now.


4 posted on 03/30/2012 4:03:47 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Lmo56

I believe I heard today that not even the clerks are allowed in the meeting.


5 posted on 03/30/2012 4:05:07 PM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Lmo56

Wonder if anyone listened to Rush today, and whether he corrected himself on his misunderstanding of the SC process...


6 posted on 03/30/2012 4:09:10 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Lmo56

Isn’t this something they do routinely? What’s the need for secrecy, unless they’re devising ways to deceive us?


7 posted on 03/30/2012 4:09:20 PM PDT by old school
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To: Lmo56
I wouldn’t bet against The Wise Latina or Kagan leaking proceedings to Obama.
8 posted on 03/30/2012 4:09:59 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Traveler59

I remember seeing an interview where a Justice was said he sometimes makes two clerks write opposite opinions.

That is one way to keep them guessing.

Kagan and Sotomayor are not to be trusted.

Kagan because she is now obviously unqualified.

Sotomayor because she has played the exparte communication game before during her lower court days with electronic funds transfer deliberations.


9 posted on 03/30/2012 4:14:28 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Truth29

And when we see the White House orchestrated media campaign, the rest of us will know how the vote went down.


10 posted on 03/30/2012 4:20:37 PM PDT by Mountain Troll (My investment plan - Canned food and shotguns)
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To: longtermmemmory

For me, Kagan is completely marked as a dishonorable judge. The reason is that she was Obama’s point person when the healhcare plan was drafted and she also was responsible to draft arguments in favor of the plan if presented before the Supreme Court. In her old job she would have been the one defending the healthcare plan before the court. Now she is a member of the Supreme Court and does not recognize that she should recuse herself from the case. This is indicative of a character defect and she does not deserve to be taken seriously or to be trusted ever again.


11 posted on 03/30/2012 4:24:37 PM PDT by Sam Clements
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To: Truth29

Of course they will. Obama will then leak it to the media somehow.


12 posted on 03/30/2012 4:25:48 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: Lmo56

So now the left is upset how the court works? yet they rely on it to destroy the country on a daily basis it seems these days.


13 posted on 03/30/2012 4:26:08 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Lmo56
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14 posted on 03/30/2012 4:39:18 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I tried to buy a hoodie today but the store manager said they had all been shoplifted.)
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To: bigbob
Wonder if anyone listened to Rush today,

I'll go out on a limb here and guess that someone did indeed listen to Rush.

15 posted on 03/30/2012 4:52:21 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: old school

The written opinions and dissenting opinions are very important in explaining to us and to judges and lawyers just why a decision was made. The rule of law requires the lower courts follow the reasoning of the higher courts. Each justice will explain, often in detail, the court cases they relied on and the tie their opinion has to the Constitution.


16 posted on 03/30/2012 4:56:36 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

I’m sure that Keger and Sodamachine are reporting back to their handlers this evening. The Rats will know what is going on. The staff will find out also, since they have to research and write the opinions. Keger and Soldamachine are definitely beholding to Obama..they wouldn’t be squat without him.


17 posted on 03/30/2012 5:04:05 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Lmo56

Watch the press and the administration. I think Kagan will give the administration a heads up and it will leak indirectly to the press. Indirect can mean nothing more than back off criticism of the court.

My guess is that if the pressure continues on the court, the first vote is unconstitutional. If the press backs off the pressure on the court, they have heard the early vote went for the bill. Now I am talking about the MSMediots like the NY Times or Washington Post or the networks, not some unplugged in lefty blog.


18 posted on 03/30/2012 5:11:13 PM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: Traveler59
I believe I heard today that not even the clerks are allowed in the meeting.

No, they are not. BUT, the clerks DO participate in the drafting of the opinions [majority AND dissenting] ...

SO, when a justice comes back to his/her office and says, "We have to get to work on the Majority [or Dissenting] opinion" - ya think a clerk can figger it out ???

19 posted on 03/30/2012 5:22:50 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Lmo56

How can those big, mean justices say no to this cuddly wittle Obamacare Bear?

Or this one?

Or...OH, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! AAAAGHHH!!!!!!


20 posted on 03/30/2012 5:43:55 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: Lmo56

I guarantee that as soon as the conference was over, Kagan closed her office door and called (or emailed) the White House with the results of the secret vote. To find out what the decision is, just watch how Obama and his flying monkeys behave in the coming days and weeks...either their panic or smugness will tell the tale.


21 posted on 03/30/2012 6:16:46 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Oldexpat

You may well be right since Kagan is the most “political” justice since Abe Fortas.


22 posted on 03/30/2012 6:57:24 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

She is the “JUDAS ISCARIOT” in the room.....No, it’s not about clerks - it’s those IN the room that will squeal - That Kagan didn’t excuse herself from these whole proceeedings ought to bring IMMEDIATE IMPEACHMENT AGAINST her but no REPUBLICAN LEADER has the *(*(guts to stand up and proceed with the CONSTITUTION BEHIND THEM!


23 posted on 03/30/2012 8:50:26 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: JimSEA

She is the “JUDAS ISCARIOT” in the room.....No, it’s not about clerks - it’s those IN the room that will squeal - That Kagan didn’t excuse herself from these whole proceeedings ought to bring IMMEDIATE IMPEACHMENT AGAINST her but no REPUBLICAN LEADER has the *(*(guts to stand up and proceed with the CONSTITUTION BEHIND THEM!


24 posted on 03/30/2012 8:50:43 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: SandRat

I think it is just wrong anyhow, but they don’t care what I think.


25 posted on 03/31/2012 2:59:42 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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