Posted on 03/30/2012 6:35:44 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
There’s a bit of a Roswell chicken man aspect to this.
Thanks for posting.
Good to know there are still Americans like Mr.Gray around.
I especially like the pic at 22 and text “Gray holds a quran, which he later burned.” LOL. I say let’s make him an honorary Freeper!
“Quite frankly, we should have been rioting after Ruby Ridge and Waco. Because we didn’t, the government has gotten bolder and more oppressive, and the average LEOs have even more militarized hardware.”
I’ve read about Ruby Ridge and was sicken by the story. Waco is a little more fuzzy a no doubt serous problem of an overaggressive government, but no where near as sick as the Ruby Ridge murders.
That being said in regard to your remark about rioting, Conservatives don’t riot, and liberals want to be subjects of the government.
There is nothing to be gained in a riot except mindless destruction of what is largely our own property. In the field of forceful resistance the only logical course of conservative is to wait until enough of them are motivated and organized enough as to kick the Government out.
Something that might never be possible owing to our own human scale limits and the enormous size of the overbearing government. Simply put the larger the government the larger the potential to divide and conquer.
What do you think the government would do in the remote case that significant numbers of people starting taking this “sovereign citizen” stance? I know it’s not likely, but at least it’s a realistic course of action and could be done, as shown by those doing it.
similar to what I read.....the most dangerous person in the world is the one with nothing to lose.
I know it was me and my bobby mcgee; my question was rhetorical so I could quote that line.....but thanks for the response.
Gargantua & Lancey Howard - I'm sorry, but those answers are incorrect. How much did you wager on the Final Jeopardy answer? (just kidding)
Reminds me of the man who converted a bulldozer into a demolition machine.
You need to learn a lot more about Waco, then. Ruby Ridge pales in comparison, though both were murderous abuses of power. Look up M.O.V. E. in Philadelphia, Gordon Kahl in North Dakota, sometime, too. These have not been isolated events, but a syndrome.
“What do you think the government would do in the remote case that significant numbers of people starting taking this “sovereign citizen” stance? I know it’s not likely, but at least it’s a realistic course of action and could be done, as shown by those doing it.”
I doubt it would ever come to that, in a few isolated cases where the guy is willing to live like a hermit in the wilderness like this one you can just leave em well enough alone.
But when you start getting people engaged with our civilization buying, selling, and using the public road & utility system allowing them to simply ignore the law is a threat to the rights of every around them with whom they deal. Leaving them alone thus becomes an unacceptable stances for rather obvious reasons.
So the answer your question, no it could not come to that because there simply aren’t enough people in situation where they can live like a hermit like this man. And even if there were, odds are few wise authorities would take note. Their “protest” would largely fall on deaf ears, just as this man’s protest has.
A solution to the scale of the Federal problem is going to require organization on a massive State sized scale to even have a serous enough impact to take notice.
Then to win over public opinion which will be essential to victory your going to have to lul them into looking evil.
This is regretfully something hermit sovereign citizen like this man are least capable of doing of all people.
He believes government has taken away too many of his God-given rights.
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He DOES have a point...
He believes government has taken away too many of his God-given rights.
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He DOES have a point...
Uh, no.
Uh, no.
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What are you smoking? Next-to-last stanza, near the bottom.
‘Like A Rolling Stone’ lyrics (1965, about 4 years before Roger Miller first recorded Kris Kristofferson’s ‘Me & Bobby McGee’)
Once upon a time you dressed so fine
Threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn’t you ?
People’d call, say, “Beware doll, you’re bound to fall”
You thought they were all kiddin’ you
You used to laugh about
Everybody that was hangin’ out
Now you don’t talk so loud
Now you don’t seem so proud
About having to be scrounging for your next meal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be without a home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
You’ve gone to the finest school all right, Miss Lonely
But you know you only used to get juiced in it
Nobody has ever taught you how to live on the street
And now you’re gonna have to get used to it
You said you’d never compromise
With the mystery tramp, but now you realize
He’s not selling any alibis
As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
And say do you want to make a deal?
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
A complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
Ah! you never turned around to see the frowns on the jugglers and the clowns
When they all come down and did tricks for you
[ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/b/bob-dylan-lyrics/like-a-rolling-stone-lyrics.html ]
You never understood that it ain’t no good
You shouldn’t let other people get your kicks for you
You used to ride on the chrome horse with your diplomat
Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat
Ain’t it hard when you discover that
He really wasn’t where it’s at
After he took from you everything he could steal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
Princess on the steeple and all the pretty people
They’re all drinkin’, thinkin’ that they got it made
Exchanging all precious gifts
But you’d better take your diamond ring, you’d better pawn it babe
You used to be so amused
At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used
Go to him now, he calls you, you can’t refuse
When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose
You’re invisible now, you got no secrets to conceal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
Ooops..
You were referring specifically to “...freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose.....”
Yep, that’s strictly Bobby McGee.
Nevermind!
If it will take large scale opposition and organisation, I don’t see how it can ever happen then. Way too may people are perfectly satisfied to bend the knee to government as long as they get freebies and perks. Government has a nice little racket going of buying people’s birthright of freedom for a mess of pottage (and the idiots are only too happy to sell it). Then after having sold their birthright for the mess of pottage, and having eaten the pottage, they have neither. I suppose all the “freedom of perversion” of various kinds keeps them in a stupified state of submission, after that.
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