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Oklahomans from all walks of life prepare for emergencies
The Oklahoman ^ | 3/31/12 | MATT DINGER

Posted on 03/30/2012 9:08:35 PM PDT by Kartographer

As a New Orleans police officer in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, Kevin Diel learned how quickly a disastrous event can bring a city to its knees and bring out the worst part of human nature.

“Within about a week of it hitting, it completely changed my mind. This was a whole new world, and there was nobody to help,” Diel said.

He used his wits, the few supplies he had on hand and what he could scavenge to survive the ordeal until order was restored.

Diel, now a private corporate security officer, considers himself a member of a community that focuses on emergency preparedness, or “preppers” as they call themselves.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: preparedness; prepperping; preppers; selfreliance; shtf; survivalping
I especially like this quote:

“You don't necessarily need to be preparing for the end of the world, but just what you'd consider a personal emergency,” he said.

He's so right! You can do the right thing and provide for yourself and your family or you can stand on a bridge and wait for FEMA to come along with a bottle of water, a MRE and a warm blanket.
1 posted on 03/30/2012 9:08:44 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Please consider this to be our weekly Preppers Thread. Please post your buys, discoveries and projects you like to share.

As for me the Smith’s Grocery Change is having a case lot sale, so I am stocking up on sugar, canned beans and god old Spam!


2 posted on 03/30/2012 9:12:47 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
I meant Smith grocery CHAIN, not Change!
3 posted on 03/30/2012 9:14:21 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Exactly. You have to know what kind of “emergency” you want to be prepared for. For some, that’s two weeks. For some it’s a few days. For some, a couple months. For others, half a year, or year, or several years. But it has to make sense to you and what you consider what you are considering and even whether you’re staying where you are, or going somewhere else, or staying a little while then leaving, etc. And also what makes sense to prepare for given your current housing and financial situation.


4 posted on 03/30/2012 9:20:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Kartographer
Supper tonight was about a pound of pork shoulder, smoked outside, and then slow cooked in coffee, roasted comino and chili powder, tomato juice and not-so-good (oops) old homebrew. Refried pinto beans (homemade), rice with jalapenos canned last year, green onions from this year, and cilantro out of the herb garden. And homemade corn tortillas cooked on the comal.

Beans, rice, can of tomatoes, old coffee, old beer, and a few things out of the garden along with packaged Masa Harina de Maize. Cheap meal.

The ingredients are simple but the skillsets to turn that into a primo Tex-Mex meal take practice.

Cook what you store. Store what you cook.

/johnny

5 posted on 03/30/2012 9:28:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

Our prepper group here in Tampa is starting to get into group-buys for a wide range of things. Tomorrow I’m going out shopping at a new wholesale outlet for bulk peanut butter.


6 posted on 03/30/2012 9:30:20 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: JRandomFreeper

You’re probably gonna get some free gas out of that meal too.


7 posted on 03/30/2012 9:35:58 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
The catz have already vacated my office. ;)

Actually, I pre-soak the beans to begin breaking up the tri-saccharides that produce the gas. Training is as important as gear and product.

/johnny

8 posted on 03/30/2012 9:44:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

A guy sent me an email today about something I’ve never thought of. Those solar powered landscape lights are cheap and stay on all night. The light isn’t very bright but it would beat candles in the house. Bring ‘em at night then take ‘em back out the next day to be recharged.


9 posted on 03/30/2012 10:15:55 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( "It happened. And we let it happen. - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: Terry Mross

Placemarker


10 posted on 03/30/2012 10:20:15 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Terry Mross
On that note, pay attention to the way you point them if they have a separate panel. They should generally point south, here in the US, unless you have trees blocking the sunlight.

I recently helped a geriatric neighbor with her lights. She had all the panels pointing North. ;)

/johnny

11 posted on 03/30/2012 10:38:03 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

Stay away from sugar as it is bad for your health. Spam, beans, rice, flour ok.


12 posted on 03/30/2012 11:45:08 PM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: Kartographer

Stay away from sugar as it is bad for your health. Spam, beans, rice, flour ok.


13 posted on 03/30/2012 11:46:10 PM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: Kartographer

Please add me to your list. Thanks!


14 posted on 03/31/2012 12:20:21 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: saintgermaine

Obviously you don’t know a thing about southern boys and their sweet tea!


15 posted on 03/31/2012 3:06:34 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Secret Agent Man

We are preparing for a “new reality”. There won’t BE an end. What is coming won’t last a few weeks or months.


16 posted on 03/31/2012 3:22:10 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Kartographer

We don’t have case lot sales in my area. The stores here know they can pretty much get whatever price they set.

I have noticed the cost of food out West is much cheaper than it is here. Well at least fruits and vegetables.
I check out what Aldi’s advertises everyweek, online. When you first check it out, it is on default of Texas. You can look at that ad, then compared against the area where I am, the price difference is huge.

But I mostly grow my own. (Except citrus). That helps tremendously.


17 posted on 03/31/2012 5:48:50 AM PDT by Freddd (No PA Engineers)
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To: Kartographer; All

We are putting together a bulk food co-op but this is only for people within driving distance of North Georgia. We order from Walton Feed. The prices will be discounted some with a large order but where we really realize our savings is on the shipping. We must get together a LARGE order, $20,000 or 20,000 pounds. It is all shipped by large truck to one location, unloaded, distributed and picked up on the same day (hence the need for anyone ordering to be in close proximity). If you are interested in joining, please message me privately. We hope to get this together in the next 4 weeks.
Pam


18 posted on 03/31/2012 6:20:25 AM PDT by georgiagirl_pam (STEP ONE: SECURE YOUR DOOR (gives you time to get your gun!) mysafedoor.com)
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To: wastoute
"We are preparing for a “new reality”. There won’t BE an end. What is coming won’t last a few weeks or months."

That's my fear, slow, grinding and brutal, years.

19 posted on 03/31/2012 6:59:50 AM PDT by blam
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To: Kartographer
RICHARD RUSSELL: A Massive Stock Market Collapse Will Wipe Out 60 Years Of Inflation And Leveraging

Richard Russell: Hang On To Gold, Massive Collapse Coming

20 posted on 03/31/2012 7:13:35 AM PDT by blam
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To: Kartographer
Our Walmart is clearancing out Better Homes and Gardens canning lids. I've always used Ball, but I figure canning lids are canning lids and $1.00 for 12 lids is a pretty good deal! If anyone has used them and found them to be defective let me know so that I can return them. Aside from that, I've finally convinced hubby that a larger garden = less mowing. I'm thinking about selling my hot pepper butter (mustard) at our farmers’ market this year, so I need much more room for more hot peps. Something other preppers should consider is garlic. Once you start growing it you never have to purchase garlic again. Plus garlic has many uses medicinally. I'm also trying to conquer sourdough bread. If anybody has suggestions or good recipes let me know. I really want to keep this up as sourdough is a great prepping staple. Oh one more thing! I'm going to make mead this week. I found a recipe that uses baking yeast, so other than the raw honey I have everything at home already. I think that this would be a good treat for us this summer, plus in a SHTF situation it is easy to make and therefore makes a great barter item.
21 posted on 03/31/2012 7:24:51 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: wastoute
What I'm expecting is something similar to people fleeing a hurricane.

They will have the thought in their head they can just leave their home for awhile and go to a motel in another city for a few days or couple of weeks, then come back when everything settles down.

Their first reality will hit when they find out other cities aren't any better than what they just left, so they will leave and look for another place.

Then the second reality is going to hit them. They can't stay in the best motel and eat in the best restaurants anymore because they are running out of money.

After this is repeated several times, desperation will start to set in because they realize without their money they don't have the skills to take care of themselves.

Desperate people will do anything to survive.

22 posted on 03/31/2012 7:27:20 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for the tip on the Smith’s case lot sale! I must have missed the circular.


23 posted on 03/31/2012 7:43:17 AM PDT by hotshu (Redistribution of wealth by the government is nothing but theft under the color of law.)
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To: Secret Agent Man; Kartographer; JRandomFreeper

I know some here will disagree with me, but we don’t worry about what kind of emergency or disaster may happen. Rather we prepare according to the duration of it, or how long things may be “down”.

Bear with me for a minute.

For instance we don’t say “we are preparing for the zombie apacolypse” or “an 8.0 New Madrid quake”. Rather we put supplies together for lengths of time. We even have a snappy color code to go with it:

Green event: 24-72 hours
Yellow event: 72 hours to 30 days
Red event: more than 30 days

Then we take our geographic location, skill sets, financial resources, etc into account as we procure supplies for each event level. Now IMO every Freeper family should be able to do a Green event standing on their heads whether the circumstance dictates shelter in place or bug out.

We have found, and this is just us of course, that each event level builds on the previous thus making the planning and procurement decisions a bit more logical and less intimidating. At least to us anyway. Does that make sense?

I think of you do your needs assessment and planning in this manner you’ll find it works pretty well. I haven’t mentioned this before but I’m a trained and experienced Emergency Manager type and this the recommended process for those who work in that industry.

Each step builds on the previous one in a logical, orderly manner.

Strictly my opinion, YMMV, and all the usual caveats. Best to all.

L


24 posted on 03/31/2012 9:23:53 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Cooked in coffee?

Do you make coffeecake out of coffee as well?


25 posted on 03/31/2012 10:04:29 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1166 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void
Nope, but I do use coffee in a lot of marinades and as a cooking liquid for some meats and beans. Little trick I picked up in culinary school.

/johnny

26 posted on 03/31/2012 10:07:23 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Darksheare

I’ll have to try that.

NOT with Darksheare’s coffee.

I wouldn’t want anything to reanimate...


27 posted on 03/31/2012 10:11:09 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1166 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void
You can't taste the coffee. It just adds a depth and richness to the flavor.

I use Tres Rios Costa Rican coffee that I buy bulk as green beans, and roast myself. Good coffee.

/johnny

28 posted on 03/31/2012 10:15:03 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: goodwithagun

Had to do a search to find out what hot pepper butter is. Ok, just a mustard. Like for hotdogs or what? Good luck with your canning. That’s a good deal on lids but can’t help with the brand. Yes, once you get garlic going it’ll keep growing without any effort.

On his way out a little while ago, the service guy stopped to admire my garden. Asked about this and that plant.


29 posted on 03/31/2012 10:24:25 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Kartographer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2866230/posts

From another FR thread. Is anyone looking for a good looking German Sheppard? These people need help and this dog looks like a great German Prepper to have.

30 posted on 03/31/2012 11:47:40 AM PDT by califamily4W
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To: Terry Mross
Eventually, the battery inside the light wears out, so it's a good idea to stock up on replacements. The ones I had at the farm years ago were just AAA NiCd batteries and I just wedged a new one in place when the originals wore out.

Sacrifice one of the lights to figure out what battery you need, and get a few spares. You absolutely know that the day you need to use the light will be one week after the battery dies.

31 posted on 03/31/2012 7:47:09 PM PDT by Stegall Tx (Living off your tax dollars can be kinda fun, but not terribly profitable.)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Terry Mross

Note on that note: put them up and hide them! My dogs have destroyed most of mine chasing critters by day and things that go bump in the night. My grandkids think they are for playing... the statue of liberty, frankenstein torches, etc.


32 posted on 03/31/2012 7:52:10 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should. Samuel Adams)
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To: goodwithagun
I've used a few of their lids and not had a problem. However, if you've got some $$, you should consider purchasing reusable canning lids. One family made them back in the 1970s and has resurrected the product lately. They are EXCELLENT, and my Mother currently has a test batch on their third reuse. She's only had one failure so far, but I can't tell you out of how many jars total.

http://www.reusablecanninglids.com/

I don't get any commission or any such thing. I'm just a happy customer.

33 posted on 03/31/2012 7:53:39 PM PDT by Stegall Tx (Living off your tax dollars can be kinda fun, but not terribly profitable.)
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To: blam; Kartographer

The powers that be are expecting MASSIVE riots if Zero loses the election. The gov’t doesn’t have nearly enough resouces to control what’s coming.

Folks, have your preps complete by October if at all possible.


34 posted on 04/02/2012 5:36:27 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: Lurker

Great information and planning strategy. Thanks for posting this...it makes the process seem much less daunting.


35 posted on 04/02/2012 9:08:49 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Sergio

I hope you find the advice useful. I also hope that you never need to dip into those resources you put away.

Best,

L


36 posted on 04/02/2012 11:00:14 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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