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Are old photos of Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman deceptive?
msnbc ^ | 3/31/2012 | AP

Posted on 03/31/2012 4:35:23 AM PDT by tobyhill

When he was shot, Trayvon Martin was not the baby-faced boy in the photo that has been on front pages across the country. And George Zimmerman wasn't the beefy-looking figure in the widely published mugshot.

Both photos are a few years old and no longer entirely accurate. Yet they may have helped shape initial public perceptions of the deadly shooting.

When you have such a lopsided visual comparison, it just stands to reason that people would rush to judgment," said Kenny Irby, who teaches visual journalism at the Poynter Institute, a journalism think tank in St. Petersburg, Fla.

The most widely seen picture of Martin, released by his family, was evidently taken a few years ago and shows a smiling, round-cheeked youngster in a red T-shirt. But at his death, Martin was 17 years old, around 6 feet tall and, according to his family's attorney, about 140 pounds.

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1 posted on 03/31/2012 4:35:26 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
I can see what they mean.
2 posted on 03/31/2012 4:43:16 AM PDT by Jimmy4Toes (I will not apologize for, nor will I demand my beliefs upon anyone.)
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To: tobyhill
FGS. If the non journalist, illiterate bloggers and posters at FR (That's what they think of us) can find more recent pics of Martin and Zimmerman so can the MSM, but we know WHY they haven't.

The news media in this country is going to be so distraught and angry when avg Joe is going to be able to report on events accurately, without bias, and news corps will buy the stuff.

3 posted on 03/31/2012 4:45:05 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: tobyhill
"When you have such a lopsided visual comparison, it just stands to reason that people would rush to judgment,"

Who provided the "visual comparison?"

The media gave us Barack Obama and now they are fanning the flames for race riots with a few photos and narrative.

4 posted on 03/31/2012 4:49:48 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: tobyhill
In every case they use thier powers to propagandize awhite on black event which causes all sorts of violent backlashes. They should be held accountable for inciting violence. Much like shouting fire in a theater. Another enemy of the American people
5 posted on 03/31/2012 4:50:26 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: tobyhill

wow - MSNBC is doing a report on this subject like they had NO IDEA that people are influenced by photos.


6 posted on 03/31/2012 4:51:58 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Jimmy4Toes

Does anyone know the physical characteristics of Martin? I had a conversation with a guy yesterday insisting he was 6’2” and weighed 120 pounds.


7 posted on 03/31/2012 4:52:05 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: tobyhill

“Both photos are a few years old and no longer entirely accurate. Yet they may have helped shape initial public perceptions of the deadly shooting.”

Well holy sh*t. You guys at AP are a bunch of Captain Einsteins aren’t you? How many of you did it take to figure that out?


8 posted on 03/31/2012 4:54:05 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: tobyhill
"Are old photos of Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman deceptive?" Does a bear go in the woods?
9 posted on 03/31/2012 4:59:16 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: sirchtruth

I checked the Orlando Sentinel for the earliest reports of the shooting. The earliest one I found was February 29 and had a picture of Trayvon at 17 and in a Hoodie. Wonder when the parents started to get Promotional Professional Publicity advice and when. Subsequent articles show pictures provided by the parents of the twelve and younger Trayvon.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-02-29/news/os-fatal-shooting-sanford-townhomes-20120226_1_gated-community-death-sunday-night-shot


10 posted on 03/31/2012 5:03:44 AM PDT by BilLies (Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hate your Traditional American guts!)
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To: servo1969

Stole your pic. It will come in handy


11 posted on 03/31/2012 5:06:07 AM PDT by Figment
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To: tobyhill
Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press

Are these Rights to those who use if for propaganda purposes, who create false truths, or even use it to incite hatred/violence against a group or individual?

Do these Rights trump a persons Right to be Innocent until proven guilty?

America has a long history to our very founding regarding these Rights. But, they came into existence to support both the citizen and the press to be able to inform ourselves of the ....truth. When that intent is violated and infringed upon is it still a protected Right?

Is showing a person as a child, when they were clearly a young man at the time of an incident a breach of the public trust in the press? Does such reporting lead to the public’s perception being false regarding the individual?

Does showing the ‘alleged’ in an orange jumpsuit, instead of the picture of them grouped with his family create a false perception?

Is this really protected Rights? Or do “We the People” deserve better.

12 posted on 03/31/2012 5:09:43 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: tobyhill

Oh, so now they a ting like they could be absolved for their complicity in the electronic beat down of Zimmerman.

Nice try liars.

You screwed the pooch on this, big time.


13 posted on 03/31/2012 5:13:45 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: tobyhill


14 posted on 03/31/2012 5:16:19 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: servo1969
"Both photos are a few years old and no longer entirely accurate."

Why is "entirely" in there? Oh, that's right. The 12 yo and the 17 yo are both black and both have eyes and ears. Same is true for his baby picture.

15 posted on 03/31/2012 5:16:31 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: tobyhill

So the article acknowledges that the pictures are not accurately depict both men. Yet, it doesn’t provide more recent ones.


16 posted on 03/31/2012 5:17:04 AM PDT by paudio (no tagline for now...)
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To: tobyhill

I get it now. It’s not the racists in the press that are at fault, it’s the evil pictures that caused the lies to be published. NBC was innocent as the driven snow when they cut the part out of the recording where the dispatcher asked Zimmerman the race of the suspect. The pictures made them do it.


17 posted on 03/31/2012 5:17:07 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: tobyhill

Yes they are.


18 posted on 03/31/2012 5:17:29 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: raybbr

I’ve read multiple reports Martin was 6-3 and Zimmerman 5-9.

The police report said Martin was 6-0 160.


19 posted on 03/31/2012 5:18:16 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Tax codes and spending don't get 14 year olds pregnant and on welfare. Morality Matters.)
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To: tobyhill

Trayvon Martin special prosecutor imposes news blackout
7:23 p.m. EST, March 29, 2012|

By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel

The special prosecutor in the Trayvon Martin case on Thursday imposed a news blackout, saying her office would no longer respond to questions about the investigation.

Angela Corey, state attorney in Duval, Clay and Nassau counties, has done several interviews since her appointment one week earlier, including an appearance on CNN and interviews with the Orlando Sentinel and Miami Herald.

But Thursday evening, her media relations manager released a statement, saying Corey’s office would no longer comment about the case.

That happened 24 hours after Sanford released security camera video showing suspect George Zimmerman walking into police headquarters with no obvious signs of injury.

Jackelyn Barnard, Corey’s media relations specialist, was quoted on clickorlando.com, the website of WKMG-Channel 6, Orlando, complaining that the video should never have been released.

Her Thursday night email to journalists said that leaks in recent days had divulged certain details about the manslaughter investigation that should have remained secret.

Corey was imposing the blackout, the email said, “to protect the integrity of the case.”

rstutzman@tribune.com

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-29/news/os-trayvon-martin-prosecutor-news-blackout-20120329_1_special-prosecutor-news-blackout-police-headquarters


20 posted on 03/31/2012 5:19:39 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: raybbr

he is 6’2” or 6’3”... weight between 160 and 190 pounds...


21 posted on 03/31/2012 5:20:09 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: raybbr

he loses weight in every article.
7’1” 98 lbs.
Not making fun of the young man but rather of the endless misinformation.


22 posted on 03/31/2012 5:26:59 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: raybbr

The initial police report lists him as 160 lbs.

http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2012/03/trayvon-martin-shooting-death-initial-police-reports.html


23 posted on 03/31/2012 5:31:14 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: tobyhill

I found this lastnight. I sent it to Hannity.

http://peopleagainstshittycop.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/trayvon-martin-florida-black-foot-soldier-link-established-no-limit-nigga-lingo-is-popular-florida-black-foot-soldier-slang-for-black-on-white-bow-crime-trayvon-didnt-like-whites-am/

http://nationalblackfootsoldiernetwork.blogspot.com/


24 posted on 03/31/2012 5:33:16 AM PDT by mardi59 ( Go Newt!!)
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To: KeyLargo
That happened 24 hours after Sanford released security camera video showing suspect George Zimmerman walking into police headquarters with no obvious signs of injury.

Except for the large contusion on the back of his head from having it slammed into cement, as can be seen a few comments up thread. Nope, no bias here. BARF.

25 posted on 03/31/2012 5:37:48 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: tobyhill

“Are old photos of Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman deceptive?”

Ahhh, that’s a rhetorical question, right?


26 posted on 03/31/2012 5:38:29 AM PDT by Peet (Cogito ergo dubito.)
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To: tobyhill
Photobucket
27 posted on 03/31/2012 5:47:52 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: mardi59

Good find.


28 posted on 03/31/2012 5:53:14 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: mardi59

Good find.


29 posted on 03/31/2012 5:53:18 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: tobyhill

Obama looks like Trayvon’s dad.


30 posted on 03/31/2012 5:55:41 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Obama looks like Trayvon's dad.)
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To: nuconvert

>>wow - MSNBC is doing a report on this subject like they had NO IDEA that people are influenced by photos.<<

Or like they just now discovered this.


31 posted on 03/31/2012 5:56:31 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Obama looks like Trayvon's dad.)
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To: tobyhill
The MSM has played right into the hands of white supremacist groups, once again proving the validity of the Law Of Unintended Consequences

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32 posted on 03/31/2012 5:58:24 AM PDT by immadashell
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To: icwhatudo
The police report said Martin was 6-0 160.

The police report is just an estimate, Martin wasn't carrying identification.

OTOH his mother was quoted as saying he was 6'3" tall.

33 posted on 03/31/2012 6:10:11 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: BilLies
Wonder when the parents started to get Promotional Professional Publicity advice and when. Subsequent articles show pictures provided by the parents of the twelve and younger Trayvon.

My guess is when the issue got on the White House / Media Matters radar and they decided to exploit it to gin up the base for the election.

34 posted on 03/31/2012 6:15:46 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: tobyhill

Al Sharptonge was on yesterday saying all the new photos of Trayvon out now are fake. He even showed the one in the white tee shirt and gold teeth, said it wasn’t him.

Beyond all his lies, I think he really is too stupid to know what is obvious to everyone else.


35 posted on 03/31/2012 6:23:14 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: piytar
EMT’s on the scene that night treated Zimmerman as attested to in the police report. EMT’s don't ‘treat’ someone if they are uninjured. The injury to the back of Zimmerman's head is clearly visible in the video and he reportedly was seen by his doctor the next day where his broken nose was confirmed. Sharpton and the Martin family lawyers scream that it's just not so but dems da facts.
36 posted on 03/31/2012 6:24:19 AM PDT by JPG (Hold on tight; rough road ahead.)
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To: Texas Fossil

That was taken from his license, no?


37 posted on 03/31/2012 6:25:54 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: raybbr; Jimmy4Toes

From my obsessive reading, Martin’s ID from 2 years ago said (IIRC) 6 feet and 160 pounds. So in two years he most likely got a bit bigger.


38 posted on 03/31/2012 6:30:53 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: raybbr

6’3” and 160+ lbs.


39 posted on 03/31/2012 6:31:39 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Cboldt; little jeremiah; maggief

Here is the information on the special prosecutor/news BLACKout. (isn’t that racist? WHere’s AS?)


40 posted on 03/31/2012 6:39:55 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God anhttp://sanfordfl.gov/inved Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: mardi59

Guess the MSM needs to get up to date on street slang.

BOth Skittles and AZ tea are also slang terms for drugs.


41 posted on 03/31/2012 6:50:51 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God anhttp://sanfordfl.gov/inved Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: hoosiermama

Thank you.

It will be interesting to find out from the convenience store if Martin had actually purchased Skittles and AZ Tea from them, and if he had such goods on his person.

(What are Skittles anyway, candy?)


42 posted on 03/31/2012 6:58:07 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

AP, cited on MSNBC, asks a rhetorical question. Thanks tobyhill.


43 posted on 03/31/2012 7:20:30 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: BilLies
I checked the Orlando Sentinel for the earliest reports of the shooting.

The photo they ran with that story was doctored. Original vs. amateur Photoshop job:


44 posted on 03/31/2012 7:22:16 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses

Thanks, filed in my Zimmerman/Trayvon folder.


45 posted on 03/31/2012 7:25:48 AM PDT by BilLies (Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hate your Traditional American guts!)
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To: tobyhill

The Obama lapdog media is inciting a lynch mob for “Whitey Zimmerman”. An election Obama’s likely to lose cannot be tolerated to occur without chaos surrounding it. - Simple.

Innocent until proven guilty goes by the wayside when convenient.


46 posted on 03/31/2012 7:59:24 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Jimmy4Toes

If they are going to write an article about old photos and current photos, why in the world would they not show the current pics to finish making the point?

Describing a picture is not the same as showing the picture in context of the article.

Just another case of the MSM trying to counteract bias charges without really showing their shameful and shoddy work.


47 posted on 03/31/2012 8:04:10 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: tobyhill
Both photos are a few years old and no longer entirely accurate. Yet they may have helped shape initial public perceptions of the deadly shooting.

They would be even less accurate for a growing child ... like Trayvon.

48 posted on 03/31/2012 9:59:46 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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To: Vendome

They are trying to wash all that blood off their hands after a week of black race hate incitment.


49 posted on 03/31/2012 11:59:23 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: joe fonebone
weight between 160 and 190 pounds...

Is that with, or without the Skittles and Arizona Tea?

50 posted on 03/31/2012 1:10:33 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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