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Trayvon Martin shooting: It's not George Zimmerman crying for help on 911 recording, 2 experts say
Chicago Tribune ^ | 3/31/12 | Jeff Weiner

Posted on 03/31/2012 4:44:41 PM PDT by Krankor

As the Trayvon Martin controversy splinters into a debate about self-defense, a central question remains: Who was heard crying for help on a 911 call in the moments before the teen was shot?

A leading expert in the field of forensic voice identification sought to answer that question by analyzing the recordings for the Orlando Sentinel.

His result: It was not George Zimmerman who called for help.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin
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To: demas415
Do you like Kitties, Viking Kitties?

The sky is blue, pass it on.

101 posted on 03/31/2012 6:18:06 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: demas415

” Those are not nice things to do, and he sounded very disturbed in those recordings.”

When one is getting one’s head bashed in......one tends to come off as “Disturbed”

Once again

I B T Z


102 posted on 03/31/2012 6:20:05 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: demas415

Ya know, I was thinking of explaining to you why those incidents are irrelevant here, but it’s not worth the effort...


103 posted on 03/31/2012 6:20:33 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: demas415

Really? If it is public,then you should be able to find it and post it for us then, right? You DO know how to post your information, don’t you?

Please. Educate us. I really want to see the “obvious” information about this guy that backs up your assertion that everyone involved, from the EMTs on up are all in on this to protect the son of a magistrate.

We will all wait while you pull it out of somewhere.


104 posted on 03/31/2012 6:21:20 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: rlmorel

I can’t talk about my opinions here?

All of the top rank officials went to the station on a Sunday night for Zimmerman. One of them drove 50 miles to get there. That is obviously special treatment.


105 posted on 03/31/2012 6:21:37 PM PDT by demas415
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To: piytar
Hey !

lol

106 posted on 03/31/2012 6:21:42 PM PDT by tomkat (resistor)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Why is that person still allowed to draw Free Republic air?


107 posted on 03/31/2012 6:22:35 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I don’t know Viking Kittens


108 posted on 03/31/2012 6:23:01 PM PDT by demas415
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To: demas415
Opinions, certainly.

Pontifications will tend to alienate all the kewl kids.

They're also positively correlated with spontaneous electrical overloads.

Play nice . . .

109 posted on 03/31/2012 6:24:28 PM PDT by tomkat (resistor)
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To: demas415

Back up your “opinions” (and that is a generous characterization) and you can post all you want.

If you are going to come on this site and talk out your rear, we aren’t interested. Go over to DU, they love your kind over there.


110 posted on 03/31/2012 6:25:12 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: mass55th
After the Sentinel contacted Owen...
How did the Sentinel know to contact Owen?
As I asked before...was he hired?
111 posted on 03/31/2012 6:27:45 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: demas415
Those are not nice things to do, and he sounded very disturbed in those recordings. Disturbed that he was working hard to pay his bills and there were thieves and thugs in his neighborhood breaking into homes and stealing? One of those homes was occupied at the time of the break in by a woman and two small children. She later said Zimmerman came over to tell her they could go and stay with his wife if it happened again. That and other incidents made him and others decide to start a neighborhood watch.
112 posted on 03/31/2012 6:30:30 PM PDT by gopcharger
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To: Krankor

Not sure of the sources for this, but this blog says that Tom Owen, the voice expert, was hired by the Martin family’s attorney:

http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2012/03/voice-expert-hired-by-martin-family-attorneys-cant-confirm-or-deny-that-voice-calling-for-help-on-911-tape-isnt-zimmerman/


113 posted on 03/31/2012 6:30:43 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Krankor

“The software compared that audio to Zimmerman’s voice. It returned a 48 percent match. “

So you could flip a coin and get the same result. Reasonable doubt?

I think it was “the man” on the grassy knoll who shot Trayvon.


114 posted on 03/31/2012 6:31:46 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: The Wizard
both hired by naacp and nbc I’m sure, or maybe black al or black jesse....
Hired for the parents by them perhaps?
115 posted on 03/31/2012 6:32:12 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Qbert
.. Tom Owen, the voice expert, was hired by the Martin family’s attorney


116 posted on 03/31/2012 6:33:58 PM PDT by tomkat (resistor)
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To: rlmorel
See Post 108.

He is a Newbie and doesn't understand that accusations, (not opinions), require facts unlike posting at DU and Daily Kos.

117 posted on 03/31/2012 6:34:43 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: Qbert
There is absolutely NO context for the "expert's" assertion.

He says there should be above a 90 score for a match. Yet the website for the software says "anything over 85% is a VERY VERY HIGH LIKELIHOOD" that the voices are the same.

That suggests 48% would be even chance or better, even more so since it is a recorded distant SCREAM recorded over a phone call from a DISTANCE from the scream, tested against a VOICE speaking directly into a phone (911 call).

118 posted on 03/31/2012 6:34:43 PM PDT by gopcharger
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To: rlmorel

I don’t go to DU because my family is conservative and I came here because I’m home schooled and this is part of civics study.

The trajectory of the bullet will prove it one way or the other in my opinion. He sounded disturbed when he talked to the police and he was disturbed when he shoved a policeman. His dad is a retired magistrate and important parents can pull strings like Al Gore did.


119 posted on 03/31/2012 6:35:00 PM PDT by demas415
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To: umgud

Perhaps Martin is getting tired of beating Zimmerman, while holding onto his skillets, and was screaming for help to finish off Zimmerman...../S

Once the media tries to shy away because the truth is beating the crap out of them, we should email them to ask why they are no longer looking for the truth to protect Martin....Why should facts matter?


120 posted on 03/31/2012 6:36:27 PM PDT by NCDave (AKA, "That idiot over there")
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