Skip to comments.WILL IT TAKE A REVOLUTION?
Posted on 03/31/2012 7:35:00 PM PDT by SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny
We are told that it is up to the Supreme Court to determine what laws are constitutional, but that is hardly in line with the limiting principles offered by the U.S. Constitution. That power the courts claim to have is called Judicial Review, and it is addressed nowhere in the Constitution. In fact, the federal courts seized that power for themselves through an opinion written by Justice John Marshall in the Marbury v. Madison case of 1803.
Yes, thats right, the courts gave that power to themselves.
By deciding if laws are constitutional, and since the Supreme Court is a part of the federal government, what is happening is that the federal government is deciding for itself what its own Constitutional authorities are. That, my friends, is hardly in line with the original intent of the Founding Fathers.
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If Obama is reelected, it may take a violent revolution to depose him as anything within the Constitution he will ignore.
The SC renders an “opinion”, which may or may not be accepted or rejected, but by whom is the question.
We have need of a final, but always constitutional authority.
But, when “up” means “down”, in this strange and divisive era, the Constitution can not stand, under the myriad of opposing definitions.
A careful reading of Madison’s Notes, the Federalist Papers, and other original sources shows that it was assumed that the Supreme Court would have the power to explicate and defend the Constitution.
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Depends on whether the voting machines have already been penetrated..
It looks like they have.. otherwise Romney would have been laughed off the stage by now..
Instead of the ONLY real candidate for President Newt Gingrich..
The only one with a clear plan.. and ability to expose Zerodamus..
Really, a Massachusetts liberal running as a republican should give most the answer..
Obama is reelected, it may take a violent revolution to depose him as anything within the Constitution he will ignore.
It he’s reelected/steels the election, he’ll never leave without a fight.
If the Supreme Court fails us, we can call a Constitutional convention and re-define the relationship between the federal government and the States in any way that meets with sufficient approval of those states.
The number of states that have moved to protect their citizens from ObamaCare (tm) are just a few short of the number required to convene a Constitutional convention. So, it will not take too much additional alarm to provoke the next level of peaceful response within the current frameworks.
I used to be concerned about what such a Convention might do. My first response is that any changes that the Convention passes will have to survive the ratification process with all the States. The second is that ObamaCare (tm) destroys any remaining limits on the power of the federal government.
Here is how the Amicus brief by the Institute for Justice concluded:
“If the individual mandate of PPACA is upheld,
the power to regulate commerce will include the
power to compel it. This massive new federal power
would soon overtake the entirety of the states residual
police power, including the entirety of contract
law, enabling the federal government to eviscerate
hundreds of years of basic understandings of the voluntary
essence of legally binding contracts.
“Equally important, from the perspective of individual
liberty, a power to compel contractual relations
would have no logical stopping point. It would presumably
include, for example, the power to compel
individuals to buy any good or service not just
health insurance so long as Congress could rationally
conclude the market for that product would benefit
from forced purchasing. It would also presumably
include a power to compel individuals to work for
specific employers or in specific occupations, so long
as Congress could rationally conclude that those industries
or occupations would benefit from such forced
contractual relationships. When combined with the
Courts highly deferential standard of review for exercises
of the commerce power, extending that power to
include the awesome power to compel would create
the very Leviathan government the Founders spilled
their blood to resist.”
In light of this, a Convention is the lesser of two evils.
Not yet my FRiend
Time will tell but we will not let this Republic go quietly into the night
Sadly, I believe you are correct.
“WILL IT TAKE A REVOLUTION?”
A loaded question.
But, consider what must happen without one.
Conservatives and “traditional” (i.e., mostly “Euro”) Americans would like nothing more than to be left alone to go their own way. Conservatives probably don’t care how the left lives in the parts of the country that the left controls, so long as they are left free to live a life in which traditional ways are preserved and “old ways” are recognized and respected. “Live and let live”. I daresay that conservatives and traditionalists would be content with a “peaceful separation” from the left, yet would be willing to negotiate with the other side so that a mutually-beneficial co-existence could be maintained afterwards.
The left, however, can never permit this. They demand that everyone behave in accordance with their diktats, and will not be satisfied until all are brought to bear under the boot of their authority. They will use whatever government power is required, including unleashing the miitary and militarized police against ordinary Americans to force compliance upon them. The only persuasion that will make them stop will be by force of resistance.
Conservatives must understand (and I’m sure that those who are “conservative-realists” do) that the left has used the preceding five decades to infiltrate all levels of the power structure, and has used Gramsci-an techniques to spread their tentacles beneath the surface of the American consciousness (particularly with leftist-leaning inculcation of kids in public schools). For that reason, the “divide” between the left and the right has turned from a wide valley into an unbridgeable chasm. With them, there can be no compromise, no turning back from the course they have chosen.
As conservatives see the nation pulled ever-leftward, we must be wise enough to realize that to continue to cling to the notion of an America with the ideological “room for all” will lead us nowhere, because the left has no qualms about crushing conservative ideals out of existence. To maintain a national status quo is to accept defeat, and submit to the left.
So, what was the question again....?
You stated my thoughts as well. We have a Cold Civil War going between us and the left of the last 30/50 years but since the 2000 election, it has gotten more intense. Yes, I don’t like what the New Dealers did, but at least they did not hate their country like the current crop does today. That’s the difference between the old and new lefts so to speak. I keep thinking that we are in an 1859/60 country in a 1939 world. AS you pointed out, both sides are 180 degrees out of phase with each other.
I tuned on Leftist talk Radio on Friday, the Mike Malloy show. He seriously was saying the Supreme Court is now illegitimate and should be done away with, because 9 people should never be able to overturn law passed by congress. He also advocated another civil war, but this time kicking bumpkin land as he called it out of the Union, referring of course to the red states. This is how sick and twisted and dangerous the left has got.
IF it comes down to revolution, the leftists are in a heap of trouble. They are so used to court decisions and paper abuses that a REAL fight would overwhelm them. Violence will end their reign, I can almost assuredly say.
Can a member of THE NINE SUPREMES be impeached?
A constitutional convention is the most dangerous route to take.
Anything can happen there.
The entire constitution re-written or done away with.
We could end up a monarchy ... it would depend on who had the guns during the decision-making.
It sounds good but it will be like juggling hand grenades with no pins.
We would be better off using the current constitution to remove the current congress, court and executive using a consortium of county sheriff’s.
The County sheriff is the highest law enforcement in the state (power over the governor and attorney general) ... any county sheriff can remove one or more bad apples.
A collection of sheriff’s from each state working together would have legal power to remove the corrupt bunch we have allowed to grow there in DC (and it could be done peaceably).
(I am not sure how likely the peaceably part is but it would be legal).