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Republicans need to unite to win
Sun-Sentinel ^ | April 1, 2012 | Noelle Nikpour

Posted on 04/01/2012 1:29:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat," the American humorist Will Rogers once said. He also said, "Democrats never agree on anything. That's why they're Democrats. If they agreed with each other, they would be Republicans."

Will Rogers must be turning in his grave because this is the year that Democrats are organized and do agree on something — the need to defeat the Republicans.

That means if Republicans want to win this election, it's time to unite behind the only candidate that can still win the party's nomination, Mitt Romney, and then explain to voters how the core Republican philosophy of less government and lower taxes will rally the economy.

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Once the general election begins, Republicans must be sure to fight the battle on their terms. They'll have a businessman who created jobs versus a big-spending Democrat who has presided over four years of unemployment. They'll have a man who has succeeded at everything versus a failed president.

And they'll still have the issues that matter most to Americans on their side. According to a December Gallup poll, 64 percent of Americans said the biggest threat to the economy is big government, which can't be good news to Democrats, who love big government. Another 8 percent cited big labor, a Democratic Party ally. Only 26 percent said the same about big business, which traditionally is associated with Republicans.

A strong nominee, a united party, and a coherent message about the dangers of big government versus Obama and his big-government record. If that's what Republicans run with, they'll win.

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To: A.Hun

What you are arguing in favor of it to mitigate the damage of our loss. Because the day Romney becomes the Republican candidate that’s the day we lost the election. Then the election is about how bad is the damage going to be. And will the country survive four more years when we can try again.


101 posted on 04/01/2012 7:21:06 AM PDT by DManA
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To: A.Hun

Wear your chains well, submissive.

I will not vote for the radical leftist.

Either one of them.


102 posted on 04/01/2012 7:21:19 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I think we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Gov. G. Romney (R), father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: EternalVigilance
[I doubt there are any FReepers who have worked harder, or longer, against Obama than myself.]

Common EV, I have known you a very long time!

I KNOW you are smarter than that. How can you make this claim and then turn around and waste your vote on a third party, or a “write in” that you know beyond all doubt, has absolutely no chance of winning.

You keep insisting that your protest vote is something significant. Your personal pride compels you to forsake all logic to save your sense of conviction. And you would be perfectly willing to let your country die and utterly fail to preserve that illusion that you have enshrined within yourself.

What is equally sad is, you willfully let the rest of us suffer in order to maintain that illusion.

103 posted on 04/01/2012 7:22:21 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: A.Hun
Get over it

Now there's a Romney Republican bumper sticker just waiting to happen.

104 posted on 04/01/2012 7:23:36 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: sand lake bar
The fact that the MA plan emerged under Romney does not make him the most liberal governor in history.

Yes it does! He championed the most egregious government intrusion and usurpation of liberty since the income tax was passed a hundred years ago. The social engineering that Mittens did is far more socialist than even LBJ's great society.

BTS democrat governors Bill Ritter of CO, Brian Schweitzer of MT, Phil Bredsen of TN, Mike Easley of NC, and Mike Beebe of AR, Steve Beshear of KY are all more conservative than Mitt will ever be.

105 posted on 04/01/2012 7:25:34 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: Rome2000

“Why not just say you support Romney because you are a Mormon and stop making ridiculous arguments.”

LOL!


106 posted on 04/01/2012 7:26:37 AM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: Voter#537

BRAVO!! :-)


107 posted on 04/01/2012 7:26:37 AM PDT by southphilly (All States should be right to work States)
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To: EternalVigilance

I like your tagline, and it is time to retire the ‘Rockefeller Republican’ label. Rockefeller was not nearly as bad as this whitewashed jackass, Bishop Willard.


108 posted on 04/01/2012 7:27:07 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I think we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Gov. G. Romney (R), father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: Sirius Lee

How can one state’s experiment with health care (one that was essentially backed at the time by some conservatives) come anywhere close to LBJ’s Great Society in terms of impact? I am totally willing to forgive Romney’s past sins in order to defeat the real danger to America if O gets reelected.


109 posted on 04/01/2012 7:31:06 AM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: Guenevere
I am not drinking the Romney Kool-aid, But I will vote for him, if he is the nominee
110 posted on 04/01/2012 7:31:30 AM PDT by southphilly (All States should be right to work States)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
You keep insisting that your protest vote is something significant.

I never said anything about a protest vote.

111 posted on 04/01/2012 7:31:38 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: DManA
What you are arguing in favor of it to mitigate the damage of our loss.

Yes. Conservatives will have some influence with Romney. Obama, unleashed as a 2nd term President, is unthinkable...and he hates us.

Romney is certainly no ideal (not my 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd choice), but he is far less dangerous than Obama.

That is undeniable.

112 posted on 04/01/2012 7:31:47 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: cripplecreek

Love it!


113 posted on 04/01/2012 7:32:00 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Psalm 144
Wear your chains well, submissive.

Obama is the one rattling the chains in your face. Not any Republican.

114 posted on 04/01/2012 7:33:35 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Really, you’re fixation on this 3rd party illusion is exactly that. You never said it, but you are living it.


115 posted on 04/01/2012 7:33:54 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
to save your sense of conviction

Well, Romney Republicans certainly don't have to worry about that.

Can't save what you don't have.

116 posted on 04/01/2012 7:34:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
vote for the Rep nominee

This election is not the time to bite off your nose to spite your face...O must GO!

117 posted on 04/01/2012 7:36:29 AM PDT by southphilly (All States should be right to work States)
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To: EternalVigilance

No, that’s common sense.

If Santorum doesn’t prevail, and it looks like he won’t, you have lost the vote and are stuck with Romney.

Now you have to decide which candidate is the worst choice for America.

For all your bluster about the founders, you apparently don’t believe in the representative democracy they set up.


118 posted on 04/01/2012 7:37:54 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

There is only one party in this country, the progressive party. They put up two candidates. If you think you are doing your civic duty by voting for Progressive R to prevent Progressive D from being president you are living in a fantasy world.


119 posted on 04/01/2012 7:39:41 AM PDT by DManA
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To: EternalVigilance
#2
even thought I don't think he is or was the MOST liberal Governor...come on now he was from Mass...
120 posted on 04/01/2012 7:41:26 AM PDT by southphilly (All States should be right to work States)
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To: Psalm 144

The real irony in what we’re seeing displayed on this thread is that the compromise of self-evident truth, of timeless principle, while sometimes appearing on its surface to have a measure of wisdom, is in fact utter defeat, total surrender, over the long haul.

They claim to be “pragmatic” and “sensible,” not realizing that they are simply short-sighted, unto blindness.

“You reap what you sow” is still the law of nature, even if some crops take longer to come in than others.


121 posted on 04/01/2012 7:41:30 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: DNA.2012

Number One task: getting rid of Obama, no matter who the candidate.

Number Two task: gaines in conservatives in House and taking the senate.

Time to stop whining.


122 posted on 04/01/2012 7:43:57 AM PDT by altura
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To: A.Hun

Republicans have been rattling chains since January 20, 1989.

Blue Commissar, Red Gauleiter, makes no difference to me.

Both are my enemy.


123 posted on 04/01/2012 7:44:10 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I think we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Gov. G. Romney (R), father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: Voter#537
If we get another 4 of ZERO we as a country are screwed to the hilt.

Yep. i figured last time we could easily survive an incompetent in the office, but sadly, I grossly underestimated the diabolical anti-American nature of the candidate, his backers, and the power players out there.

They are still at it, and have even affected the Republican primary (look at what is likely so far).

Last time, I voted for the former Alaska Governor to be a heartbeat away from residing at 1600 PA Ave., despite my dislike for the guy at the top of the ticket, with the solid hope that in 4-8 we'd be seeing her at the top.

The nomination isn't settled yet, but what ever may occur, Obama must go (and his little dog pack too).

124 posted on 04/01/2012 7:44:54 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: EternalVigilance
I’m running because of the my principles. My principles are not dependent on me running. And I have a long political track record to back that up.

If that were true, you would have as your tag line the fact that you are running for President and not pretend that you are an innocent bystander, that just can't stand how liberal mittens is.

You are promoting your interests, while most people at FR didn't know that under the cover of "eternal vigilance" is a no name guy, {a supporter of Alan Keyes, that's a good thing}, but making all kind "principled arguments" against mittens, while not openly disclosing your truth.

And you, like all other self serving politicians, will admit the truth, if and only if, the light of sunshine hits you directly on your cover.

Go ahead and deny the obvious.

You are busted, so now you point to your life long record, how noble of you.

125 posted on 04/01/2012 7:46:02 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: USS Alaska

You are right, but some of these people here are religious fanatics... by that I mean they worship their own opinions and kneel at the feet of their perceived purity.

Don’t even bother with them.


126 posted on 04/01/2012 7:48:12 AM PDT by altura
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To: Colonel_Flagg
What do conservatives need to do?

"Emigrate" comes to mind. The Republicans haven't been "Conservative" since Reagan, if then.

127 posted on 04/01/2012 7:48:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

ABO Brother, there are no substitutes!

Even Larry the Cable Guy would be better than Obama.


128 posted on 04/01/2012 7:49:10 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: EternalVigilance
Just beause Romney might be the nominee, and I will vote for him, does not make me a Romney Republican...t makes me an Obama out no matter who the nominee is....I love my country to much not to vote against Obama...I have not miss a vote. local, State, or National in 54 years, and I won't miss this one to vote against O (if I am still alive) :-)
129 posted on 04/01/2012 7:50:57 AM PDT by southphilly (All States should be right to work States)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

SOMEONE please tell this to Mittens Romney! Poisoning the well by his tactics does not get people to want to vote for you!!


130 posted on 04/01/2012 7:51:36 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I think Larry the Cable Guy would be a lot better than Obama. There is at least a large smattering of common sense there.


131 posted on 04/01/2012 7:51:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: A.Hun
For all your bluster about the founders, you apparently don’t believe in the representative democracy they set up.

Well, at least I'm aware that they set up a representative republic, not a democracy.

And if you think any of them would have approved of false choices between varying flavors of the enemies of the Constitution, solely based on party labels, you should perhaps crack some books and learn a bit about them yourself.

"The name of American, which belongs to you in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of patriotism more than any appellation derived from local discriminations...

I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.

This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.

Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight), the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

There is an opinion that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the government and serve to keep alive the spirit of liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in governments of a monarchical cast, patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume."

-- George Washington, Farewell Address


132 posted on 04/01/2012 7:51:58 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: Voter#537
No need to answer this I will not get in a flaming contest over this.

Who's flaming? I'm just saying that it isn't over yet...

Whoever winds up at the helm of America, will be the one the country as a whole deserves. Our form a government was designed to be one that allowed the 'people' to self govern, with mechanisms in place to ensure it remains so.

If we join other nations in the dustbin of history, it will be God's will and our own fault for not proving ourselves worthy of his grace.

Personally, I doubt my ability to cast a vote for anyone who has failed to protect our most innocent citizens...

133 posted on 04/01/2012 7:53:50 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

SOMEONE please tell this to Mittens Romney! Poisoning the well by his tactics does not get people to want to vote for you!!


134 posted on 04/01/2012 7:54:14 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: southphilly
Just beause Romney might be the nominee, and I will vote for him, does not make me a Romney Republican

Well, perhaps not in word. But it does in deed.

And, deeds speak so loud I can't hear the words any more. Sorry.

Politically, you are what you support.

135 posted on 04/01/2012 7:54:55 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I could not agree more. All of the kapo talk from these people reminds me of the play, A Man for All Seasons, when Sir Thomas More asks Richard Rich “Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world... but for Wales?”.

They now are willing to prove their assertions and convictions are nothing more than a few faint lines on a plastic etch-a-sketch . . . but for ROMNEY? It would be funny if it weren’t so base and so tragic.

Romney is not a compromise candidate. Romney is a capitulation candidate.


136 posted on 04/01/2012 7:59:23 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I think we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Gov. G. Romney (R), father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: Psalm 144
Republicans have been rattling chains since January 20, 1989.

You are simply wrong. Republicans have slowed the march to socialism since FDR set us on the path.

They haven't been able to stop it because of USSC decisions and stupid voters, but they are completely different from the full blown marxists that the Democrats have become.

Why didn't GWB and the Republicans pass the equivalent of Obamacare when they were in power? Why didn't they pass a trillion dollar spending bill instead of cutting taxes to get us out of recession?

There are a thousand more examples of differences between the two parties whether you want to acknowledge them or not.

137 posted on 04/01/2012 7:59:59 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: USS Alaska

Busted? LOL...hardly. I’ve been a FReeper for a dozen years now. And I’ve never hidden my identity, my associations, or my views, in all that time.

Just because, out of respect for our host, who has been supporting Newt Gingrich I believe, I have not actively touted my own campaign here to date, doesn’t mean I’m hiding something.

Obviously, with the total compromise of all principle that the nomination of Mitt Romney represents, that will be changing, if the owner allows it.


138 posted on 04/01/2012 8:00:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: altura

Time to stop lecturing. If you are serious about convincing someone don’t insult their intelligence. And if you aren’t serious about convincing people then you have no right to criticize anyone else about being part of the problem.


139 posted on 04/01/2012 8:03:04 AM PDT by DManA
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To: A.Hun

They haven’t been able to stop it because they did not want to. They have wanted to manage it. The GOP is Fabian left, the Democrats are Trotsky left. Both are big government, small liberty parties. Both are globalist. This was not always so, but the elements that have dominated the GOP since the sad day reagan left office have turned the GOP into a distinction without a difference, bit by bit, compromise by compromise.

The GOP will die, and it begins this cycle. History has shown there is no need for a Menshevik party.


140 posted on 04/01/2012 8:07:20 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I think we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Gov. G. Romney (R), father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: EternalVigilance
It is a republic, but it is based on the votes of the people, making it ultimately democratic.

GW was probably right, but it hasn't worked out that way.

Hamilton, Madison and Jefferson, started the first parties BTW.

141 posted on 04/01/2012 8:08:39 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Guenevere
She's making an April Fool's joke. But I agree: mitt will be abusing our need to vote against Obama "no matter what," and as a conservative I do resent him using us so, and the Media / Establishment Republicans forcing him on us from day 1.

There is no reason to just lie back and submit to the rape YET. If we have to, we have to, but let's go down fighting him off all the way. Vote / support Santorum. Unite around him to deny Romney delegates.

142 posted on 04/01/2012 8:09:20 AM PDT by Yaelle (Donate to Rick to stop Romney in WI! Make calls, pray, donate!!)
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To: Psalm 144

If it wasn’t for the abject fear of Obama, the Romney Republicans would have nothing at all.


143 posted on 04/01/2012 8:09:33 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: A.Hun

Bush did not cut taxes. He did NOTHING to halt and significantly augmented the growth of government and that comes out of our hides one way or another, either today or tomorrow.

Bush was a disaster. McCain would have been a disaster. Romney will be a disaster. Thank the Elite GOP for this record of shame.


144 posted on 04/01/2012 8:10:28 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Sorry if I offended you, but sometimes the truth hurts.

And don’t tell me to stop expressing my opinion.

Unless you are prepared to stop expressing your own.


145 posted on 04/01/2012 8:11:43 AM PDT by altura
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To: A.Hun
It is a republic, but it is based on the votes of the people, making it ultimately democratic.

No. It is ultimately a constitutional republic, "an empire of laws, not of men."

146 posted on 04/01/2012 8:11:50 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Once the general election begins, Republicans must be sure to fight the battle on their terms.

With Mitt Romney as our William Wallace???

Bwaaa ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa!!!

147 posted on 04/01/2012 8:14:44 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: altura

Why in the world would I be offended by being accused of whining? And why would someone accuse me if whining if not to shut me up? Or start a fist fight.


148 posted on 04/01/2012 8:15:53 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Psalm 144

Reagan was a diehard Republican for a reason....the alternative was minority status forever giving the true socialists in America free reign.

I think the Republicans will make great strides this election, just as they did in 2010...with or without zealots. Thats because the Democrats have screwed up and finally shown their true colors. Their positions are so egregious that even the MSM can’t lie them out of it this time. They’ve lost young people, Catholics, even a lot of blacks.

Conservatives need to build on this, not turn your backs because they won’t be conservative enough. We could have built on the 2004 Repubs, but we’re not known as the stupid party for nothing.... So many “conservatives” can’t see farther than there own noses.


149 posted on 04/01/2012 8:16:38 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Psalm 144

Not that the Romneys, or the Romney Republicans, actually fear another Obama term, by the way. I was told that one of the Romney sons pooh-poohed any idea that Obama represents any real threat to the country.

Reminiscent of John Judas McCain’s happy talk about Obama four years ago.

It’s who these people are.

Frankly, they don’t really have any problem with the communist in the White House. They just think they can do socialism better and more effectively.

Sadly, they’re probably right. The Romney governorship in Massachusetts being Exhibit A.


150 posted on 04/01/2012 8:16:58 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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