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Obama now has his private army, and put together on our watch
Save America Foundation ^ | 3/30/12 | Fred Brownbill

Posted on 04/01/2012 5:11:12 AM PDT by IbJensen

Big Sis Janet Napolitano and the Obama private army working under ICE, has placed an HUGE order for 450,000,000 (YES..MILLION) rounds of 40 calliber ultra high performance optimum penetration for terminal performance rounds from Defense contractors ATK.

They also have an open order for 175 million rounds of .223 caliber rifle rounds.

I have to ask each and every one of you reading this today a series of very important questions and would love some answers.

1/ Why does the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency need to be so heavily armed and need so many detention facilities? Go to their web site and check out the massive number in each state, far many more than are needed for illegal immigrants. http://www.ice.gov/detention-facilities/ . Have a look at how many employees this agency has grown to, the different divisions and the always growing number of “special agents” all heavily armed with armored tanks, vehicles and heavy duty military style equipment. All this to catch some illegals? I do not think so, as they have done a very bad job of that so far.

2/ Is this the private army that President Barack Hussein Obama said and promised that he would form when running for president, which would be as well equipped and trained as the regular army? If so, he has it now and it was all done on our watch! Shame on us.

3/ If it is, why now and what for? Surely they are not expecting millions and millions of illegals to come swarming over our borders?

4/ Is there something about to break in this election year that may stop the election or ensure an Obama victory and the final curtain for the Republic as we know it comes down?

I find that it is very alarming that this is happening now at the same time that from President Barack Hussein Obama down, using the public and private media and well known extreme left wing figures like Sharpton, Spike Lee, Jessie Jackson, several politicians, the New Black Panthers etc, a race war is being promoted every day using the African American population as pawns, feeding them vile and more than often incorrect information, angering them and in return angering and frustrating a well armed and trained group of whites who see a huge injustice about to occur.

America, wake up to the distinct probability that the America we love is on the edge of collapse, and that violence and economic destruction will be a huge part of that collapse.

To many, it seems impossible that this would happen here, on the streets of the towns and ciities that you live in. That people you work with, live next to, like and maybe are related to, could become an enemy combatant with as strong a desire to destroy and remake America as we have of saving the America given to us by our Founding Fathers.

This is a short article compared to many I have written, but the message is as important and strong as anything I have written or spoken of before. Please be aware of what is happening to our beloved America, be prepared to maybe have to do something you never dreamt you would have to do. When that time comes, God will give you the strength to do what is needed as long as you are ready and have everything you need to do it.

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND YOU ALL.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: evilregime; obamaprivatearmy; obozo; phonypresident; privatearmy; whitehut
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Obama has time and again, let those who wish to see, exposed himself as an enemy of this country with the goals and purposes of an enemy. He cannot and should not be trusted. We must take nothing for granted.

Thomas Jefferson, “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.”

Tactically, such a force is not poised for an action this year. He still needs to disarm the people. He needs to weaken the military. He needs more control of our economy to weaken the people. There just isn’t time this year, although I could see the possibility of him attempting to use such power to influence the election in some way. He needs this election and he still needs the next term to finalize such a plan. It is imperative that he be stopped in November.

He has achieved a heck of a lot in just over 3 years. He has weakened the military tremendously, morale is low, the rules of engagement make sure we can never win a real battle, the DADT debacle is causing tremendous problems for our military men and women. Female recruits are scared of the openly butch dyke style females who are aggressivly going after them, and cases of men on men rape is spiralling.

Now come the massive and punitive financial cuts to the military and his job there is nearly complete. He is silencing any soldier that opens his mouth and dissagrees with King Obamas point of view, just look at the current case involving Sgt Stein which we, the SAF and OK is highlighting and trying to help the poor guy who was only exercising his 1st amendment rights.

1 posted on 04/01/2012 5:11:25 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

He has the power to murder Americans by putting guns
in the hands of terrorist (indirectly) or directly
through his private police, private IRS, private DHHS,
private CZARS or private drones.

Thanks to the traitors in Congress, America is long gone.


2 posted on 04/01/2012 5:13:14 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: IbJensen

I am looking forward to this November when this professional grifter is thrown out of office.


3 posted on 04/01/2012 5:16:20 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: thethirddegree

It will be necessary to fumigate, repaint and replace all furniture after these weasels leave with their 850 staffers.


4 posted on 04/01/2012 5:27:38 AM PDT by IbJensen (We now have a government requiring citizens prove they are insured but not that they are citizens.)
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To: Diogenesis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

Hussein Obama telling US Citizens what he is going to do.
Check out all the idiots applauding what he is saying - absolutely incredible.


5 posted on 04/01/2012 5:34:23 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: IbJensen

There are so many things wrong with this. However, one of the most overlooked, I think, is the quality of the people that make up these agencies. I work overseas doing security in Iraq. Prior to coming over here I was in local law enforcement. Many of my friends now are former military guys that served in OIF and OEF. Most HAD this idea in their heads when it came to federal agents, that they were these defenders of freedom, truth and justice. I used to and still do to this day, shake my head.
I worked with federal agencies routinely. It would make me scratch my head ALL the time at the people that they hired. Sheep is the easiest way to describe them. Going to do their 20 and retire, with as few bumps in the road as possible.
If that meant downright trampling on people’s rights, too EFFIN bad. And the really sad part is, the feds operate under a whole different set of rules than local law enforcement does, IE Waco, Ruby Ridge, that makes them virtually immune to any prosecution.
One of the most glaring things I learned, early on, was that it’s a federal offense to lie to an agent. Punishable by prison time. Folks spend a lifetime lying to the cops. Which is why the good cops are so good at telling when someone is lying to them. If you need a law to make sure that the person you’re talking to isn’t lying, then you’re probably in the wrong line of work.
And don’t let me get on the topic of firearms proficiency and tactics. That’s a whole other post.


6 posted on 04/01/2012 5:38:37 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: All

That is why we MUST vote obozo out no matter what (unless he is removed prior to election )!


7 posted on 04/01/2012 5:39:48 AM PDT by chrisnj
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To: All

By ‘no mattert what’, I mean - icluding don’t fall for the distraction, the ‘crisis’, the ‘racists’ label, the ‘political correctness’, the ‘martial law’ etc.

I know it is easy said than done. But keep this in mind.


8 posted on 04/01/2012 5:45:04 AM PDT by chrisnj
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To: IbJensen

Are they all bullet proof?
I’m afraid we will find out.
Probably BEFORE November.


9 posted on 04/01/2012 5:46:20 AM PDT by Flintlock (Picture ID for ALL voting. Let our dead rest in peace.)
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To: IbJensen

Are they all bullet proof?
I’m afraid we will find out.
Probably BEFORE November.


10 posted on 04/01/2012 5:46:31 AM PDT by Flintlock (Picture ID for ALL voting. Let our dead rest in peace.)
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To: chrisnj

So who “funds” the buying of bullets? There is the problem... Cut off his funds!!! This isn’t rocket science.


11 posted on 04/01/2012 5:47:02 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Still a contributing Republican? Why?)
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To: Diogenesis
He has the power to murder Americans by putting guns in the hands of terrorist(s)

My fear is that the Fast and Furious operation was so badly bungled that it was an intentional thing and was used as a diversion from where a lot of weapons were actually headed....into the hands of domestic Jihadists.

Any decent magician or illusionist will always use the left hand to distract the eye of the audience from what is actually happening with the right hand.

Only time will tell.

12 posted on 04/01/2012 5:48:44 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: thethirddegree
They all need to go. Congress is as bad as obama. And that means the spineless republicans to.
13 posted on 04/01/2012 5:50:29 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: IbJensen

Hitler disarmed the Jews before he began his rampage on them in Germany. That’s why gun registration is garbage because the govt can just show up one day with a bunch of armed soldiers and demand you give up your weapon.

If Obama gets another term, start watching for these scenarios to unfold. He will go after our guns as he knows thats the only thing that can derail his whole plan for our nation. http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/12/the-obama-administration-is-planning-a-second-term-attack-on-gun-rights/

I personally think we will be mired in a civil war if/when this happens while the rest of the Middle east/Russia and China play out God’s end-times scenario.


14 posted on 04/01/2012 5:51:00 AM PDT by eak3
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To: IbJensen

450,000,000 (YES..MILLION) rounds of 40 calliber

Zombie Apocalypse?


15 posted on 04/01/2012 5:51:22 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: IbJensen

The number of Americans willing to engage in actual combat against anyone with US citizenship — for any reason whatsoever — is pitifully low, and absolutely inadequate to achieve the desired effect.
It’s a democracy now and the traditional Americans are nearly extinct. Probably not enough to make one good Indian reservation.
Written with due respect to Indians, who actually fought for survival.


16 posted on 04/01/2012 5:51:54 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: IbJensen

What is the “normal” “run of the mill” quantity of ammunition purchased by ICE? What is the time frame for its use?

I too was alarmed by this apparent purchase about half-a-dozen threads ago, but then someone chimed in that even another thread (I didn’t get to see) vetted it to FR satisfaction. So, I do not know why it may not be anything to be alarmed at, but I suspect 450,000,000, depending on the deliver/use timeframe may be the norm.

I *AM* aware of the fact that there are some restricted sites where ALL armed forces and police and swat and etc are trained. My local one sees over 100,000 trainees per year, and during the warmer months, trains 24-7. That right there is A LOT of ammo.


17 posted on 04/01/2012 5:55:18 AM PDT by C210N (Mitt "Severe Etch-a-Sketch" mcRominate-me)
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To: IbJensen
Why does the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency need to be so heavily armed and need so many detention facilities? Go to their web site and check out the massive number in each state, far many more than are needed for illegal immigrants

I wonder who will be holocaust this time.

18 posted on 04/01/2012 5:58:01 AM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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To: IbJensen

His provate army is covered under the Affordable Healthcare act I think it’s [age 256 if I recall


19 posted on 04/01/2012 6:00:41 AM PDT by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: IbJensen

BTTT


20 posted on 04/01/2012 6:01:37 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: IbJensen

If 0bummer gets another 4yrs, that’ll be more than enough time to accomplish his/Soros’ a-g-e-n-d-a.


21 posted on 04/01/2012 6:02:10 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: IbJensen

We are being overthrown. Its happening because most of our so called representives have gotten to comfortable as if they our part of the royal family.
Its not that they are radicals or marxist, so much, as self interested opportunist who would have tongue kissed Hitler if it meant they could keep their illusion of power.
They have already put in place the pseudocience that you will accept as fact or you will, at first, be an outcast.
If history is a guide true intelectuals, who dare contradict the state’s science, will be imprisoned or executed.
Its almost always the same basic formula. however,the US is just a little harder to overthrow because all those guns in the hand of people who love and appreciate their freedom.


22 posted on 04/01/2012 6:05:08 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: IbJensen

Lock & load.


23 posted on 04/01/2012 6:07:49 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: IbJensen

He’d better have a personal army, ‘cuz I can pretty well guess what our military thinks of the Cretin-in-Chief. Should this idiot actually try something stupid like that, one can well figure out which way the real Army’s guns will point.


24 posted on 04/01/2012 6:10:23 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: thethirddegree

Will Obama go peacefully? Will his followers accept the results of the election? If there is rioting and bloodshed,will Obama declare marshal law? And will the congress have the guts to force Obama to leave if all of the above happens?


25 posted on 04/01/2012 6:11:01 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Leep
Its not that they are radicals or marxist, so much, as self interested opportunist who would have tongue kissed Hitler if it meant they could keep their illusion of power.

Or they just know the financial apocalypse coming that is just around the corner and are preparing what they have to do to save themselves.

26 posted on 04/01/2012 6:12:48 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: IbJensen

“40 calliber ultra high performance optimum penetration”

They’re called “cop killer bullets” when we buy them. I guess that makes them “citizen killer bullets” when they buy them.


27 posted on 04/01/2012 6:13:27 AM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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To: Mr. Wright

Yes this is CREEPY.

But what’s even more creepier is that no authentic truth seeking journalist has EVER questioned 0bam on this comment to find out just what he meant AT ALL.

I mean, hypothetically, if Hitler ever did show up in America he would never be questioned about his comments ...provided he is Black?


28 posted on 04/01/2012 6:14:15 AM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: Mr. Wright

Marxist BUMP


29 posted on 04/01/2012 6:16:38 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: C210N

I and my wife go through a thousand rounds in a year or two. And I know people who do many times more than that. Those people usually do their own loads.

However, I buy inexpensive rounds for the range, not ultra high extra performance ultimate penetration (or whatever these rounds are).

Gosh, I’ve never heard of the government wasting money before.


30 posted on 04/01/2012 6:17:34 AM PDT by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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To: IbJensen

Doesn’t our military use “ball” rounds instead of hollow point rounts?


31 posted on 04/01/2012 6:18:34 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: vladimir998

You mean “Moslem” Apocalypse?


32 posted on 04/01/2012 6:18:34 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: IbJensen

If it comes down to it, I will pit the 300+ million weapons in the ands of 100 million American and their estimated 2 billion rounds of ammo against what ever Janet Neopolitan cann put together.

Particularly when you add to that the Guard and Regular Military units that will come over in such a scenario.

It would be ugly, but, IMHO, such a force would ultimately get their head handed to them.

The Man who Despises America
http://www.jeffhead.com/obama-time.htm

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm

Pray for our nation and her people...for wisdom to see through the BS and throw off the marxist rabble that have infitrated and are now leading our government.

II CHron 7:14


33 posted on 04/01/2012 6:19:11 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: R0CK3T

Where is Janet Reno when we need her? Oh wait, she started all this with Waco and the poor little kid in Florida who was kidnapped and sent back to Fidel my bell.


34 posted on 04/01/2012 6:20:06 AM PDT by shadeaud ( “Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8”. Just doing my duty a Christian)
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To: IbJensen

Wonder how liberals will feel about this, when it becomes Mitt’s private army, in 200 days or so.

Just saying.

(Not Mitt-boosting, just reading the handwriting)

Will they order $450 million dollars in bicycles?


35 posted on 04/01/2012 6:20:55 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ((Racism Fatigue) America is the least racist nation on Earth)
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To: IbJensen
What are the locations of these detention facilities?

Got the longitude and latitude for these sites?

.

Just curious to go Google Mapping.

36 posted on 04/01/2012 6:21:59 AM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: Leep

When government becomes corrupt, oppressive, too large, and no longer listens to the will of the people, we the people have a right to form a new government. We have reached the point in this republic that is beyond saving, in my opinion, and we will have to take drastic measures to save or renew our unalienable rights.


37 posted on 04/01/2012 6:21:59 AM PDT by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: IbJensen

You have to ask, “Why do they need 450 million HOLLOW POINT .40 Cal rounds?”
Our military is forbidden from using hollow points, why does TSA need them?


38 posted on 04/01/2012 6:23:04 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: IbJensen

If I am reading correctly, the entire state of Ohio has only four facilities listed, (and the one in Butler Co. does not count. It is probably full all the time). Hardly enough to mean anything. Just saying.


39 posted on 04/01/2012 6:24:28 AM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: IbJensen

DO NOT underestimate the cretin that lives in the WH; there is NOTHING too far fetched to imagine him doing. Nothing.


40 posted on 04/01/2012 6:24:55 AM PDT by Jerrybob
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To: thethirddegree

“I am looking forward to this November...”

Same here, but something is becoming ever more rancid in Washington and the stink is becoming more pronounced.

The President, in his comments to the Russian President, betrayed what seemed to be confidence about winning a second term and the SCOTUS decision about Obamacare is being characterized as a decision along party lines.

Notice that there’s hardly any talk about the rule of law, only speculation about the success or failure of a Progressive agenda.

The fish head is beginning to stink.

Imho


41 posted on 04/01/2012 6:27:51 AM PDT by ripley
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To: null and void

ping


42 posted on 04/01/2012 6:28:49 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (Charter Member of the Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List)
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To: qaz123

If I may...

Who is the fed buying 145 MILLION rounds of .40 cal ammo for? Themselves? Ha.

Now, when they order 500,000 .40 cal pistols, duty belts, holsters, and mag pouches, then you know what is really going on...

FWIW, the .40 caliber pistol is not organic to the military’s Troops, Organization, and Equipment(T O & E)

Remember when Obama said we need a civilian force just as well armed, just as powerful as the military?

Connect the dots...


43 posted on 04/01/2012 6:28:58 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (A Bounty on Zimmerman, Can Be A Bounty On ANYONE. No NBBP Mob Justice!)
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To: IbJensen
I'm glad they didn't live to see this. The thing that scared the bejeezus out of my parents' and grandparents' generations just about has us.

It's been to Germany and western Europe, then turned Russia into the Soviet Union and moved on to China, all the while keeping the fires lit back home in the middle east.

And now, it's here. 2012. Showtime.

44 posted on 04/01/2012 6:29:52 AM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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To: eak3

I personally think we will be mired in a civil war if/when this happens while the rest of the Middle east/Russia and China play out God’s end-times scenario.

I think you are correct. Something has to take the U.S. out of the picture, and a Civil War (much nastier than the first), is a logical possibility. But I don’t think it will be a wawr soley on the 2nd Amendment. I believe we will re-live the tragedy of racism a second time, because the church didn’t rise up in unified fashion, and deal with the issue the first time.


45 posted on 04/01/2012 6:30:37 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: baddog 219

Congress already seems irrelevant.


46 posted on 04/01/2012 6:35:04 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: IbJensen

Even if we get O out of office, there is still a problem of a possible GOP president who just might... well... let’s say he pretends to be a conservative, and rubs elbows with other liberals and has put in place liberal policies in the former state he was governor in. Who is most likely in cahoots with the likes of Obama. Who’s not afraid to pick up where he left off.

Just saying.


47 posted on 04/01/2012 6:35:35 AM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: vladimir998

Crap; I thought I had a lot with 500,000 rounds for 8 calibers. A mere drop-in-the-bucket, in comparison.


48 posted on 04/01/2012 6:35:46 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: chrisnj
That is why we MUST vote obozo out no matter what (unless he is removed prior to election )!

Why? Romney is a propenent of the same gun grabbing agenda fascist agenda that jughead is. We keep giving these puppets enourmous, unconstitutional powers, and then act upset when an "opposition" puppet comes into office and inherits those same powers for which we looked away and said nothing when it was "our" puppet.

I've got news for you "we" Americans are not the ones who are working the puppets. The true puppetmasters have a global agenda and our own government is bought and paid for member of it.

As former NSA administrator William Binney, said while holding his thumb and forefinger close together, "we are that far from a turnkey totalitarian state."

49 posted on 04/01/2012 6:36:09 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: vanilla swirl
Doesn’t our military use “ball” rounds instead of hollow point rounts?

Yes, primarily NATO 5.56mm ball ammo, including the M193 cartridge, for use against personnel and unarmored targets; the M855 for use against personnel and light armored targets; and M856 tracers.

My understanding is that expanding point ammunition is used primarily (but not exclusively) in counterterrorist operations.

50 posted on 04/01/2012 6:37:27 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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