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Lyons: Justice for Trayvon Martin [Let's ban guns, and then worship Obama Barf Alert]
Arkansas Times ^ | 28 MAR 12 | by Gene Lyons

Posted on 04/01/2012 8:53:27 AM PDT by DCBryan1

Everybody wants to see justice done in the Trayvon Martin case, and almost everybody acts as if they already know what that is. Never mind the Rev. Al Sharpton, activist and crusading journalist all in one. Nor his MSNBC colleague Lawrence O'Donnell, who recently announced he'd decided to forgo wearing a hoodie on TV to look more like a prosecutor.

Here's GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum on "Face the Nation," assessing shooter George Zimmerman's mental health. "Someone has a very sick mind who would pursue someone like this, Santorum said. "This is clearly a heinous act. You know, there are a lot of people who have a lot of distorted views of reality...And my heart goes out to the parents, too. I can't imagine what they're suffering, losing their son in such a horrific way. All I would say is that, whatever the motive is, it was a malicious one."

As an attorney, you'd think Santorum would know better than to bring a legally charged term like malice into it. Not to mention implied psychosis. Santorum subsequently reverted to form, blaming President Obama—one of a few public figures who've spoken with appropriate restraint—for bringing race into the equation. This because Obama, extending condolences to the family, acknowledged that "if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon."

Indeed, he would. Images of Trayvon's handsome, boyish face have played no small part in the public response. Obama also took care, in his capacity as chief executive, not to pre-judge the case. He called it "absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this and that everybody pulls together—federal, state and local—to figure out exactly how this tragedy happened."

In short, the president promised an investigation, not a result. Would that his circumspection were followed by more of those who have justifiably turned Trayvon's death into a national drama, but who could end up provoking even graver and more socially disruptive tragedies if they're not more careful.

I say this as one who agrees that had George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin's roles been reversed, the black kid would almost surely have been arrested. Maybe not convicted, but taken into custody? Definitely. Who thinks that "concealed carry" handgun permits should be damn near impossible to get, and that Florida's NRA-influenced "stand-your-ground" law, and others like it, were certain to have disastrous results. They must be repealed.

I wouldn't trust me with a pistol in my pocket, much less you. Untrained individuals like Zimmerman have no business packing heat, nor confronting strangers they deem suspicious. Trouble didn't come to George Zimmerman; he went looking for it. At minimum, he acted like a damn fool.

However, I've also had the experience of writing a book about a media-amplified murder case that took place in my home state of Arkansas. What I learned was that when reporters and pundits set themselves up as amateur homicide detectives, not to mention as prosecutor, judge and jury, the odds against justice being served grow longer.

I can still remember where I was sitting and what the weather was like when I realized that a ballyhooed front page account of a murder trial in Little Rock's dominant morning newspaper bore almost no relationship to the actual testimony and crime scene photos. It was that shocking to me. All the errors ran in one direction, casting suspicion on an innocent man for murdering his wife. He was eventually exonerated, but only after a harrowing ordeal.

Meanwhile, a veritable orgy of gossip, speculation and self-righteous moralizing swept the state. "You could ask the ladies under every hair dryer in every beauty shop in Arkansas if McArthur was involved, and they'd say yes," one beleaguered police official told me. "They didn't have to know the first thing about the case. They justknew."

It's no exaggeration to say that millions are already there with regard to Trayvon Martin. So affecting were the pictures and descriptions of his death, and so moving the grief and immense dignity of his parents, that it's become easy to cast Zimmerman as a racist villain out of central casting, and to leap to conclusions not in evidence.

Specifically, what exactly took place between Zimmerman and Martin during their fatal encounter? Who attacked whom? We really don't know, and media accounts, as often happens, haven't helped. On MSNBC's "The Last Word" the other night, Lawrence O'Donnell's guests tried to discuss what Martin's girlfriend may have seen.

The girl was halfway across Florida, talking to him by cellphone.

There have been numerous similar episodes. Much of what you think you know may be false. Media personalities don't set out to misinform; mainly, they become True Believers.

It's possible George Zimmerman's culpability will never be proved to everybody's satisfaction. But the kind of painstaking professional investigation President Obama has called for is the only way to try.


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To: DCBryan1
Obama also took care, in his capacity as chief executive, not to pre-judge the case.

lol, whatever.

21 posted on 04/01/2012 9:44:58 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: DCBryan1; All

Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Even that piece of trash Salon.com dropped this clown. And to top it all off, the Arkansas Times is a free weekly! I guess now the citizens of central Arkansas are paying what Gene Lyons is worth!


22 posted on 04/01/2012 9:52:04 AM PDT by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist!)
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To: duffee

And that was the beginning of the end for Rick. His words were no different than those of race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson.
It’s just as well since the only thing he had going for him was the fact that he is not named Romney. Santorum is about as exciting and likeable as dry toast, without the personality.


23 posted on 04/01/2012 9:57:21 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (Sometimes the road less traveled.... is less traveled for a reason.)
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To: DCBryan1

DEMOCRATIC RACISTS ARE STILL WEARING HOODS!


24 posted on 04/01/2012 10:03:43 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: I cannot think of a name
If this point could get out into the mainstream, the other side would want to stop talking about this - IMMEDIATELY.

Which is why complete crime statistics don't get reported anymore. The facts do not support the agenda. We all know how crimes are reported-"youths" instead of a real physical description when the suspect is a minority, etc. Just look at the respectives photos being used for Martin and Zimmerman.

Google the report "Color of Crime". It's some years outdated but still relevant.
25 posted on 04/01/2012 10:04:10 AM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Cboldt
(it's 40,000:1 in rapes).

Dear God. How can people blame anyone, especially women, for "racial profiling" under these circumstances? It's common sense under these circumstances.
26 posted on 04/01/2012 10:08:15 AM PDT by mrsmel
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To: DCBryan1
"Everybody wants to see justice done in the Trayvon Martin case"

When the first sentence is a lie then I read no further.
The majority in the Sharpton & Jackson camp do not want true justice. They will settle for nothing less than a conviction of Mr. Martin and they could care less about the facts.
If it was clear that Mr. Zimmerman murdered Mr. Martin then he would have been arrested and would either be in jail awaiting trial or out on a large bond while waiting for trial.
I was not there and do not know what occurred. Neither does Jessie, Al and all of their followers.
I will wait for ALL the facts to come out in court or by the independent investigation by the prosecutor's office.
The prosecutor has to be concerned with all that is coming from the mouths of Al & Jessie. Concerned that if they don't indict due to "Self Defense" or some other possible reason, the majority of Sharptons & Jacksons crowd will start riots.
We will just have to wait and see. . . . .

27 posted on 04/01/2012 10:11:15 AM PDT by DeaconRed (ZERO supporters are stuck on stupid. . . Always were, always will be. . .)
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To: DCBryan1

Seen this article yesterday on a thread. Might have been a different source.

Back to Lyons: “I wouldn’t trust me with a pistol in my pocket, much less you.”

He’s right about that. Especially if he thinks it should be in his pocket.

Now, I bet Mr. Zimmerman has had training in handling and carrying of a weapon, and years of experience. As Neighborhood Watch Captain of a ‘diverse’ housing center reporting a high incidence of rape, murder, theft, home break ins, drug activity,.... I would darn sure want him carrying a weapon. And wearing a bulletproof vest. And in touch via cellphone with the local police. And walking or driving around the neighborhood.


28 posted on 04/01/2012 12:00:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: DCBryan1

Thanks for (re)posting the article. The more people on FR that ‘see’ who the HFR’s are, the better.

HFR=Highly Functioning Retard


29 posted on 04/01/2012 12:03:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: DCBryan1

“Everybody wants to see justice done in the Trayvon Martin case, and almost everybody acts as if they already know what that is. “

Actually, Mr. Lyons, justice was done. Been done for over a month. Mr. Martin died during a struggle over the gun of the Neighborhood Watch Captain that he decided to Beat the hell out of because the Captain was following him.

But... the government and media and NGO’s like Sharpton/Jackson got involved and .... poof .... all TRUTH is thrown out the window. Because it’s ALL ABOUT THE MONEY then.

The black and white pawns are sent on the attack, so that the politicians and hucksters can profit from their death.


30 posted on 04/01/2012 12:17:44 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: samtheman
He shot in self-defense.

Actually, the media story is that he 'shot' in self-defense.

What he actually said is that the teenager, while beating him, tried to take his gun, and there was a struggle over it. Then... boom... and Trayvon had been shot and collapsed.

For all we know, Trayvon (inexperienced with handling a gun or taking one away from someone without getting shot) grabbed and ended up pushing the trigger himself.

The one thing you do not do, when drawing your weapon, or when not in control of where the barrel is pointed, put your finger on the trigger.

There is a video on Youtube of a police officer who put his finger on the trigger while pulling out his weapon, to demo it to a class of high school kids. He shot himself in the foot.

31 posted on 04/01/2012 12:28:26 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Old North State
Yes, dignity so immense that the first thing they did was to trademark the kid’s name so they could cash in.

Second (or maybe it was first) they sold their 'story' to PEOPLE Magazine, for, IIRC, $50,000.

32 posted on 04/01/2012 12:33:04 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

There is a video on Youtube of a police officer who put his finger on the trigger while pulling out his weapon, to demo it to a class of high school kids. He shot himself in the foot.

IIRC that was one of Holder’s DEA agents....


33 posted on 04/01/2012 12:34:37 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: dennisw; I cannot think of a name
I have never heard of a white man prowling black areas and raping women.

That's because those black girls will kick you right in the nuts, just for looking them in the eyes, little lone stalking them in an alley.

34 posted on 04/01/2012 12:37:36 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: dennisw
I have never heard of a white man prowling black areas and raping women b

I don't think that it occurred in the manner or volume suggested by things such as the movie ROOTS.

I would suggest that rape, 'non-marital' sex and incest occurred at a much higher rate, black on black, during slavery.

35 posted on 04/01/2012 12:44:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2
I have never heard of a white man prowling black areas and raping women b

I don't think that it occurred in the manner or volume suggested by things such as the movie ROOTS.

It had to go on to a large degree to get so many Black Afro-Americans today with some white blood to varying degrees....so I disagree. Back then it was white men having consensual sex or raping black women and female slaves to inject so much "whiteness" into our Black population of today. But this does not go on today. It is Black men raping white women or having consensual sex. Times have changed with a role reversal. Then you do have the odd white man with a black wife such as Robert DeNiro and George Lucas (Starwars)

36 posted on 04/01/2012 12:56:48 PM PDT by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

they never seem to mention these facts


37 posted on 04/01/2012 2:36:48 PM PDT by know-the-law
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To: DCBryan1

Ah yes, the Arkansas Times. As a resident of that state, I’m very familiar with that propaganda piece masquerading as a newspaper. I think the only reason its free is because no one with intelligence would waste the money to buy such a blatantly biased rag.


38 posted on 04/01/2012 5:51:31 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: DCBryan1

Is this creep still alive?


39 posted on 04/01/2012 7:44:52 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: DCBryan1

Gene Lyons gets a mention here.

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Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:27:15 PM by doug from upland

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40 posted on 04/01/2012 8:07:09 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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