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Justice Sonia Sotomayor's Shocking Ignorance
The American Thinker ^ | March 31, 2012 | Jason Lee

Posted on 04/01/2012 10:24:34 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued

The liberal Supreme Court justices have demonstrated profound and shocking ignorance of the American health care system. Here's one of the most jarring examples:

"What percentage of the American people who took their son or daughter to an emergency room and that child was turned away because the parent didn't have insurance," asked Sotomayor, "... do you think there's a large percentage of the American population that would stand for the death of that child -- (who) had an allergic reaction and a simple shot would have saved the child?"

I have a precise answer for Justice Sonia Sotomayor.

The percentage of American people who took their son or daughter to an emergency room and were turned away because the parent didn't have insurance is exactly zero.

No person, whether American or not, is ever turned away from an emergency room for lack of health insurance. Ever.

This simply does not happen.

Here's why:

1. It's illegal.

Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) is a U.S. Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals to provide care to anyone needing emergency healthcare treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. Participating hospitals may only transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment under their own informed consent, after stabilization, or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment.

You can thank Republican President Ronald Reagan for that, for better or for worse.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/03/justice_sonia_sotomayors_shocking_ignorance.html#ixzz1qoJ7cFK3

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KEYWORDS: 2012; democrats; liberals; obamacare; progressives; scotus; scotusobamacare; sotomayor; wiselatina
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1 posted on 04/01/2012 10:24:38 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: Sun; ExTexasRedhead; GOPsterinMA; Impy; wagglebee; little jeremiah; JulieRNR21; metmom; ...

We have to vote Obama out of office this year. If he wins a second term, he’ll appoint more justices like this to the Supreme Court.


2 posted on 04/01/2012 10:27:22 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Clintonfatigued
It appears that this was an actual questions from the Smart Latina during last weeks arguments before the court.

It would be interesting to hear the answer she was given.

3 posted on 04/01/2012 10:28:15 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Holy smokes. Well, she doesn’t really have to think, she just votes with the democrats.


4 posted on 04/01/2012 10:28:15 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind;)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Don’t argue with her, she’s brilliant, she has to be, she’s a liberal democrat!


5 posted on 04/01/2012 10:30:13 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Clintonfatigued; mowowie

And glue huffing will rise to new levels of (ab)use.


6 posted on 04/01/2012 10:31:14 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Has Mittens won one "Red State" yet?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

She’s spinning. Not a good person to be on that or any court.


7 posted on 04/01/2012 10:31:29 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Oh, but they have ways to get around their own ignorance; they know that if the rest of society is just as dumb as they are, they will never have to explain their ignorance... and that by conjuring up a retarded form of hypothetical anecdote that pulls at the heart strings, then they get a pass and can infect the rest of us with the poison that will finish off America.


8 posted on 04/01/2012 10:34:22 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I heard once that the old definition of "Political Science" was basically answering the question: "What should politicians do?" That is -- given the economic and social reality, given the historical record of a community, what should politicians feel is the responsible path upon which the society should be guided? I think that goes back to Aristotle.

Today, "Political Science" is all about the question: "What can politicians get away with?" That is -- with influence peddling and corruption, with cronies in the right place, what can Elitests manage to cram down our throats while still staying out of jail? We make note of Blagojivich who ultimately played the game wrong, but most politicians today are like Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama -- people who know how to get away with ####.

9 posted on 04/01/2012 10:34:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: Michael.SF.

She’s not just a Smart Latina, but a WISE LATINA.


10 posted on 04/01/2012 10:40:53 AM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
who did the stooopid cow ask the question to and did they give the right answer of ZERO???
11 posted on 04/01/2012 10:41:53 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Imagine the reaction of the press if Justice Clarence Thomas made the exact same erroneous statement.


12 posted on 04/01/2012 10:41:58 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: "If Greece has been knocking back the ouzo, we're face down in the vat.")
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13 posted on 04/01/2012 10:45:02 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Clintonfatigued

The Democrats consistently put stupid women in positions of authority.


14 posted on 04/01/2012 10:50:42 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Typical Liberal tactic: come up with some BS strawman scenario, that convince the weak minded that it can only be avoided in the future by shredding the Constitution.

Liberals image that only when the Constitution is discarded will American REALLY care about all her children. [/s]


15 posted on 04/01/2012 10:50:49 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Clintonfatigued; SkyPilot; knarf; Know et al; PA Engineer; onyx; nutmeg; armymarinemom; Lady Jag; ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uICO4l5PRcs&feature=youtu.be

Sheriff Arpaio’s news conference yesterday. The truth must get out to the American people; the MSM won’t do it; it’s up to We The People.


16 posted on 04/01/2012 10:51:52 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Clintonfatigued
Liberals possess rhetorical skills of which conservatives are incapable. They can simultaneously assert AND believe that:
  1. 'Innocents die when they are turned away from emergency rooms for the lack of ability to pay' and
  2. hold that 'socialized medicine will save money because hospitals won't be performing routine medical care in emergency rooms.'

Thhe advantage of this doublethink capability is simple: situationally-subjective truths are a way to power, for them. They know it isn't true, but as long as we compromise they gain. At that point, objective truth does not matter but is (to them) a form of anachronistic foolishness. That is why they think we are stupid. In a way, they are correct.
17 posted on 04/01/2012 10:56:13 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Clintonfatigued

I have to repeat the first comment on the site:

Sotomayor is to the SCOTUS as Obama is to the Nobel Prize.


18 posted on 04/01/2012 10:57:42 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Clintonfatigued

Our clueless affirmative action Supreme Court Justice. She was lost during the oral arguments... embarassing.


19 posted on 04/01/2012 10:59:28 AM PDT by Third Person
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To: Third Person

Embarass=Embarrass


20 posted on 04/01/2012 11:03:03 AM PDT by Third Person
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To: ExTexasRedhead

The American people can’t take the truth, or they wouldn’t be nominating Romney and Obama. The people lack the knowledge to save themselves.


21 posted on 04/01/2012 11:03:51 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people have again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: Libloather
I wish we could replace that "wise" latina with this Wise Latina.


22 posted on 04/01/2012 11:06:31 AM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“We have to vote Obama out of office this year.”

I agree fully (from head to toe) he needs to go. However, replacing Mr. Obama with Mr. Romney, in my opinion, is not much of a change.

The GOP has destroyed any chance of meaningful change in 2012.


23 posted on 04/01/2012 11:14:07 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Third Person

There are plenty of Hispanics who would have been a better and more intelligent judge than Sotomayor.


24 posted on 04/01/2012 11:22:06 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Sola Veritas
No Romney may not be much of a change but it will be a little change. If that is all we can have this election, then I say go for it and hope we will be pleasantly surprised. When I look back on obama v. hillary I wish with all my heart that hillary would have beaten obozo. As much as I despised the clintons she would have been a little better than him. There are those out there who will disagree with me but I am not in favor of letting our country slip into the sewer and then try to pull it out.
25 posted on 04/01/2012 11:22:42 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Clintonfatigued

Stupid Latina...


26 posted on 04/01/2012 11:22:43 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: Clintonfatigued
Rush's commentary last week on the provincialism of the American left was excellent. Hopefully we will be able to shine more light on the ignorance of the left. Really their only defense is to become more informaed which will utlimately only lead to more of them jumping ship as their entire world philosophy is based on myth.

It's difficult to parse how much they understand. Either they undrstand that their entire position is false and they are pure unadelterated liars or they are the most profoundly ignorant. It's difficult to believe that otherwise functioning adults can steadfastly maintain the liberal position but alas they do.

27 posted on 04/01/2012 11:25:48 AM PDT by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: Clintonfatigued

H.W Bush sure can pick them


28 posted on 04/01/2012 11:27:55 AM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Even the liberal law academic icon Tribe commented on the blithering stupidity of the “Wise Latina”.

Yet some of our conservative “stars” found her sufficient for the Court of Appeals.


29 posted on 04/01/2012 11:30:46 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Clintonfatigued

She’s one Dumb Wise Latina


30 posted on 04/01/2012 11:32:36 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Tawana Brawley, Anita Hill, King Rodney, OJ, Duke Lacrosse, Thugvon Martin. See a pattern?)
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To: mountn man

Yup, somebody was right ~ she’s IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PAGE ~ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=latina&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1109&bih=574&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=9pl4T8O8K8TO2AWbv9G1Bg


31 posted on 04/01/2012 11:33:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: AuntB; Tennessee Nana; Clintonfatigued; rintense; 2ndDivisionVet; PAConservative1; Grampa Dave; ...
She's just another America-hating hyphenate. The latina wouldn't defend America for love nor money......black-robed or not. Defending America might "offend" La Raza and all the other Third World parasites riding the US gravy train.

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REFERENCE--- “Raza Studies” that have been taught in Arizona for a decade. AZ lawmakers passed a law against it....but it still goes on

AN EXAMINATION OF RAZA STUDIES One of the Raza textbooks in American schools is titled “Occupied America,” by Rodolfo Acuña, includes a speech given by activist and university professor Jose Angel Gutierrez: “We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him,” (pg. 323). The book also talks about the need for Mexico to re-take seven states in the Southwestern United States.

The following rather shocking quotes are taken directly from Occupied America (pg. 167): “Supporters would execute all white males over age 16,” (also known as the Plan of San Diego).“The Southwest would become a Chicano nation.”

IS SONIA COLLUDING WSITH LA RAZA TO FINANCE RECONQUISTA? In addition to using taxpayer funds to enforce the polarizing beliefs outlined above in traditional public schools, the organization known as La Raza operates 100 charter schools across the counry. The following is a select list of La Raza charter schools:

-La Academia Semillas del Pueblo (Los Angeles)

-Atzlan Academy (Tucson, AZ)

-Mexicayotl Academy (Nogales, AZ)

-The Dolores Huerta Prepatory High School (Pueblo, CO)

-Academia Cesar Chavez Charter School (St. Paul, MN)

In 2005 alone, $7.9 million in taxpayer funding was given out to these charter schools in the form of U.S. Department of Education grants. These schools stress Latino culture, the Spanish language, the re-conquest of the American Southwest, the establishment of the mythical Atzlan, and even Aztec math.

32 posted on 04/01/2012 11:37:14 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Clintonfatigued

Our gay president (what kind of guy marries a hulking Michelle?) has appointed too ultra liberal lesbianted judges. This is how much we have degenerated. Other nations like Russia and China are laughing at our gay semi-Kenyan president who bows and scrapes and caves in


33 posted on 04/01/2012 11:37:20 AM PDT by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: Ditter

“There are those out there who will disagree with me but I am not in favor of letting our country slip into the sewer and then try to pull it out.”

I understand your logic and respect your view. However, in the long term I think it necessary to send a clear signal to the GOP that if they want my “conservative” vote, they will ensure a “conservative” candidate gets the nomination. Obviously, I would never vote for Mr. Obama. However, I will not vote for Romney either. I’m tired of being forced to vote for a candidate I don’t approve of only because he is the nominal “Republican” running in the general election.

In my thinking:

Romney = Obama I stay at home on election day (first time since 1976) or leave that portion of the ballot empty.

I think if more people in the Republican party would admantly declare that....and stick with it. Then we would see a “conservative” actually running as our POTUS choice. We need to “rebel” against our own party.


34 posted on 04/01/2012 11:37:54 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) is a U.S. Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals to provide care to anyone needing emergency healthcare treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions.

If that law is constitutional (and most people believe it is), then Obamacare, or something like it, is a necessity.

35 posted on 04/01/2012 11:39:36 AM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Why would a SC Justice even ask such a question. Surely they have staff that can do research and find out the answer to simple to find out questions such as this.


36 posted on 04/01/2012 11:39:36 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Greetings ExTexasRedhead:

Thanks for sharing this!

Cheers,
OLA


37 posted on 04/01/2012 11:52:31 AM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

***No person, whether American or not, is ever turned away from an emergency room for lack of health insurance. Ever.****

Years ago I took my daughter to the E room of the hospital after a home accident. I had insurance.

Ahead of us were some people without insurance. They were taken right in, no charge. I had to pay my deductable right there.

Several years later I visited my kin 500 miles away and my daughter had another accident on a trampoline. I immediately took her to the local E room and when they found I had insurance, they waved the deductible preferring to wait on the insurance and took her in.

No one I know w/o insurance has ever been turned away from an E room.


38 posted on 04/01/2012 11:54:35 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Libloather

“She’s spinning.”

No, she isn’t. She is that stupid!


39 posted on 04/01/2012 12:00:37 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: MulberryDraw
Well, she doesn’t really have to think, she just votes with the democrats.

Well stated, and disturbingly obvious.
40 posted on 04/01/2012 12:03:15 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Kenton

Is that like a ‘White Latina’ in Liberal speak?...


41 posted on 04/01/2012 12:09:05 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Michael.SF.

The crux of his response seems to be that an alternative to Obamacare would be to charge people a $695 penalty only when they show up to an emergency room without insurance. He’s saying this would be okay, because it’s not charging people a penalty for doing nothing, just sitting at home, but conditioned on them going to an emergency room, so it would be just like any other sales tax, toll, fee, etc.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/11-398-Tuesday.pdf

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: Do you think that there’s — what percentage of the American people who took their son or daughter to an emergency room and that child was turned away because the parent didn’t have insurance — do you think there’s a large percentage of the American population who would stand for the death of that child -

MR. CARVIN: One of the most -

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: — if they had an allergic reaction and a simple shot would have saved the child?

MR. CARVIN: One of the more pernicious, misleading impressions that the government has made is that we are somehow advocating that people could get thrown out of emergency rooms, or that this alternative that they’ve hypothesized is going to be enforced by throwing people out of emergency rooms. This alternative, i.e., you condition access to health care on buying health insurance, is enforced in precisely the same way that the Act does. You either buy health insurance or you pay a penalty of $695. You don’t have doctors throwing people out on the street. And — and so the only -

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: I’m sorry. Did you say the penalty’s okay but not the mandate? I’m sorry. Maybe I’ve misheard you.

MR. CARVIN: No, no, no. I was — they create this strawman that says: Look, the only alternative to doing it the way we’ve done it, if we condition access to health care on buying health insurance, the only way you can enforce that is making sick people not get care. I’m saying no, no. There’s a perfectly legitimate way they could enforce their alternative, i.e., requiring you to buy health insurance when you access health care, which is the same penalty structure that’s in the Act.

There is no moral dilemma between having people have insurance and denying them emergency service. Congress has made a perfectly legitimate value judgment that they want to make sure that people get emergency care. Since the founding, whenever Congress has imposed that public responsibility on private actors, it has subsidized it from the Federal Treasury. It has not conscripted a subset of the citizenry and made them subsidize the actors who are being hurt, which is what they’re doing here.

They’re making young, healthy people subsidize insurance premiums for the cost that the nondiscrimination provisions have put on insurance premiums and insurance companies.

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: So the -

MR. CARVIN: And that is the fundamental problem here.

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: So the — I — I want to understand the choices you’re saying Congress has. Congress can tax everybody and set up a public health care system.

MR. CARVIN: Yes.

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: That would be okay?

MR. CARVIN: Yes. Tax power is -JUSTICE

SOTOMAYOR: Okay.

MR. CARVIN: I would accept that.


42 posted on 04/01/2012 12:10:39 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: Theodore R.

The people lack the knowledge to save themselves.


I hope the MSM pays for their part in all this. The Media are rotten to the core.


43 posted on 04/01/2012 12:13:20 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Clintonfatigued

All of the wrong political persuasion.


44 posted on 04/01/2012 12:14:07 PM PDT by Third Person
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To: Sola Veritas

There will be enough support you vote won’t matter so you have my permission to sit out, but do consider your local candidates may need some support.


45 posted on 04/01/2012 12:14:22 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Liberals don’t have brains. They have a plan and they have to follow it step by step.


46 posted on 04/01/2012 12:17:26 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

If soto had spent less time rabblerousing for LaRaza and more time reading case law, she’d know the law that requires ER treatment is approaching 30 years old.

As an activist for LaRaza, she should be completely aware that no hispanic, especially, has ever been turned away from a maternity ward, or an emergency room.

As a California resident, she should also be completely aware of the cost to the hospitals and State, and the number of hospitals that have gone bankrupt, from those who are too lazy to look up a doctor in the phone book and make an appointment, and instead choose to use the emergency rooms as their personal “free” day-clinic for the smallest of complaints.


47 posted on 04/01/2012 12:24:52 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: rbg81

‘..Typical Liberal tactic: come up with some BS strawman scenario, that convince the weak minded that it can only be avoided in the future by shredding the Constitution....’

Exactly. I continue to be puzzled by why....WHY..do we not hear Republicans speaking out LOUDLY and clearly about things like this to expose the blatant bias.


48 posted on 04/01/2012 12:34:04 PM PDT by 4integrity
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To: Clintonfatigued

The self-named Wise Latina... and we are stuck with her for the rest of her natural life. Ugh.....


49 posted on 04/01/2012 12:48:44 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
"Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) is a U.S. Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals to provide care to anyone needing emergency healthcare treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions."

Right there is your UNCONSTITUTIONAL law that should be challenged in the SCOTUS. That "law" is tantamount to forced slavery ... PERIOD!

If the doctors and/or hospital want to treat these people out of the kindness of their hearts or make that a policy of the hospital, then no problem. But forced "charity" work is slavery unless it is community service that you agree to after being convicted of a crime.

50 posted on 04/01/2012 12:51:21 PM PDT by CapnJack
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