Skip to comments.Justice Sonia Sotomayor's Shocking Ignorance
Posted on 04/01/2012 10:24:34 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued
The liberal Supreme Court justices have demonstrated profound and shocking ignorance of the American health care system. Here's one of the most jarring examples:
"What percentage of the American people who took their son or daughter to an emergency room and that child was turned away because the parent didn't have insurance," asked Sotomayor, "... do you think there's a large percentage of the American population that would stand for the death of that child -- (who) had an allergic reaction and a simple shot would have saved the child?"
I have a precise answer for Justice Sonia Sotomayor.
The percentage of American people who took their son or daughter to an emergency room and were turned away because the parent didn't have insurance is exactly zero.
No person, whether American or not, is ever turned away from an emergency room for lack of health insurance. Ever.
This simply does not happen.
1. It's illegal.
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) is a U.S. Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals to provide care to anyone needing emergency healthcare treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. Participating hospitals may only transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment under their own informed consent, after stabilization, or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment.
You can thank Republican President Ronald Reagan for that, for better or for worse.
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/03/justice_sonia_sotomayors_shocking_ignorance.html#ixzz1qoJ7cFK3
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We have to vote Obama out of office this year. If he wins a second term, he’ll appoint more justices like this to the Supreme Court.
It would be interesting to hear the answer she was given.
Holy smokes. Well, she doesn’t really have to think, she just votes with the democrats.
Don’t argue with her, she’s brilliant, she has to be, she’s a liberal democrat!
And glue huffing will rise to new levels of (ab)use.
She’s spinning. Not a good person to be on that or any court.
Oh, but they have ways to get around their own ignorance; they know that if the rest of society is just as dumb as they are, they will never have to explain their ignorance... and that by conjuring up a retarded form of hypothetical anecdote that pulls at the heart strings, then they get a pass and can infect the rest of us with the poison that will finish off America.
Today, "Political Science" is all about the question: "What can politicians get away with?" That is -- with influence peddling and corruption, with cronies in the right place, what can Elitests manage to cram down our throats while still staying out of jail? We make note of Blagojivich who ultimately played the game wrong, but most politicians today are like Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama -- people who know how to get away with ####.
She’s not just a Smart Latina, but a WISE LATINA.
Imagine the reaction of the press if Justice Clarence Thomas made the exact same erroneous statement.
The Democrats consistently put stupid women in positions of authority.
Typical Liberal tactic: come up with some BS strawman scenario, that convince the weak minded that it can only be avoided in the future by shredding the Constitution.
Liberals image that only when the Constitution is discarded will American REALLY care about all her children. [/s]
Sheriff Arpaio’s news conference yesterday. The truth must get out to the American people; the MSM won’t do it; it’s up to We The People.
I have to repeat the first comment on the site:
Sotomayor is to the SCOTUS as Obama is to the Nobel Prize.
Our clueless affirmative action Supreme Court Justice. She was lost during the oral arguments... embarassing.
The American people can’t take the truth, or they wouldn’t be nominating Romney and Obama. The people lack the knowledge to save themselves.
“We have to vote Obama out of office this year.”
I agree fully (from head to toe) he needs to go. However, replacing Mr. Obama with Mr. Romney, in my opinion, is not much of a change.
The GOP has destroyed any chance of meaningful change in 2012.
There are plenty of Hispanics who would have been a better and more intelligent judge than Sotomayor.
It's difficult to parse how much they understand. Either they undrstand that their entire position is false and they are pure unadelterated liars or they are the most profoundly ignorant. It's difficult to believe that otherwise functioning adults can steadfastly maintain the liberal position but alas they do.
H.W Bush sure can pick them
Even the liberal law academic icon Tribe commented on the blithering stupidity of the “Wise Latina”.
Yet some of our conservative “stars” found her sufficient for the Court of Appeals.
She’s one Dumb Wise Latina
Yup, somebody was right ~ she’s IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PAGE ~ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=latina&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1109&bih=574&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=9pl4T8O8K8TO2AWbv9G1Bg
REFERENCE--- Raza Studies that have been taught in Arizona for a decade. AZ lawmakers passed a law against it....but it still goes on
AN EXAMINATION OF RAZA STUDIES One of the Raza textbooks in American schools is titled Occupied America, by Rodolfo Acuña, includes a speech given by activist and university professor Jose Angel Gutierrez: We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him, (pg. 323). The book also talks about the need for Mexico to re-take seven states in the Southwestern United States.
The following rather shocking quotes are taken directly from Occupied America (pg. 167): Supporters would execute all white males over age 16, (also known as the Plan of San Diego).The Southwest would become a Chicano nation.
IS SONIA COLLUDING WSITH LA RAZA TO FINANCE RECONQUISTA? In addition to using taxpayer funds to enforce the polarizing beliefs outlined above in traditional public schools, the organization known as La Raza operates 100 charter schools across the counry. The following is a select list of La Raza charter schools:
-La Academia Semillas del Pueblo (Los Angeles)
-Atzlan Academy (Tucson, AZ)
-Mexicayotl Academy (Nogales, AZ)
-The Dolores Huerta Prepatory High School (Pueblo, CO)
-Academia Cesar Chavez Charter School (St. Paul, MN)
In 2005 alone, $7.9 million in taxpayer funding was given out to these charter schools in the form of U.S. Department of Education grants. These schools stress Latino culture, the Spanish language, the re-conquest of the American Southwest, the establishment of the mythical Atzlan, and even Aztec math.
Our gay president (what kind of guy marries a hulking Michelle?) has appointed too ultra liberal lesbianted judges. This is how much we have degenerated. Other nations like Russia and China are laughing at our gay semi-Kenyan president who bows and scrapes and caves in
“There are those out there who will disagree with me but I am not in favor of letting our country slip into the sewer and then try to pull it out.”
I understand your logic and respect your view. However, in the long term I think it necessary to send a clear signal to the GOP that if they want my “conservative” vote, they will ensure a “conservative” candidate gets the nomination. Obviously, I would never vote for Mr. Obama. However, I will not vote for Romney either. I’m tired of being forced to vote for a candidate I don’t approve of only because he is the nominal “Republican” running in the general election.
In my thinking:
Romney = Obama I stay at home on election day (first time since 1976) or leave that portion of the ballot empty.
I think if more people in the Republican party would admantly declare that....and stick with it. Then we would see a “conservative” actually running as our POTUS choice. We need to “rebel” against our own party.
If that law is constitutional (and most people believe it is), then Obamacare, or something like it, is a necessity.
Why would a SC Justice even ask such a question. Surely they have staff that can do research and find out the answer to simple to find out questions such as this.
Thanks for sharing this!
***No person, whether American or not, is ever turned away from an emergency room for lack of health insurance. Ever.****
Years ago I took my daughter to the E room of the hospital after a home accident. I had insurance.
Ahead of us were some people without insurance. They were taken right in, no charge. I had to pay my deductable right there.
Several years later I visited my kin 500 miles away and my daughter had another accident on a trampoline. I immediately took her to the local E room and when they found I had insurance, they waved the deductible preferring to wait on the insurance and took her in.
No one I know w/o insurance has ever been turned away from an E room.
No, she isn’t. She is that stupid!
Is that like a ‘White Latina’ in Liberal speak?...
The crux of his response seems to be that an alternative to Obamacare would be to charge people a $695 penalty only when they show up to an emergency room without insurance. He’s saying this would be okay, because it’s not charging people a penalty for doing nothing, just sitting at home, but conditioned on them going to an emergency room, so it would be just like any other sales tax, toll, fee, etc.
JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: Do you think that there’s — what percentage of the American people who took their son or daughter to an emergency room and that child was turned away because the parent didn’t have insurance — do you think there’s a large percentage of the American population who would stand for the death of that child -
MR. CARVIN: One of the most -
JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: — if they had an allergic reaction and a simple shot would have saved the child?
MR. CARVIN: One of the more pernicious, misleading impressions that the government has made is that we are somehow advocating that people could get thrown out of emergency rooms, or that this alternative that they’ve hypothesized is going to be enforced by throwing people out of emergency rooms. This alternative, i.e., you condition access to health care on buying health insurance, is enforced in precisely the same way that the Act does. You either buy health insurance or you pay a penalty of $695. You don’t have doctors throwing people out on the street. And — and so the only -
JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: I’m sorry. Did you say the penalty’s okay but not the mandate? I’m sorry. Maybe I’ve misheard you.
MR. CARVIN: No, no, no. I was — they create this strawman that says: Look, the only alternative to doing it the way we’ve done it, if we condition access to health care on buying health insurance, the only way you can enforce that is making sick people not get care. I’m saying no, no. There’s a perfectly legitimate way they could enforce their alternative, i.e., requiring you to buy health insurance when you access health care, which is the same penalty structure that’s in the Act.
There is no moral dilemma between having people have insurance and denying them emergency service. Congress has made a perfectly legitimate value judgment that they want to make sure that people get emergency care. Since the founding, whenever Congress has imposed that public responsibility on private actors, it has subsidized it from the Federal Treasury. It has not conscripted a subset of the citizenry and made them subsidize the actors who are being hurt, which is what they’re doing here.
They’re making young, healthy people subsidize insurance premiums for the cost that the nondiscrimination provisions have put on insurance premiums and insurance companies.
JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: So the -
MR. CARVIN: And that is the fundamental problem here.
JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: So the — I — I want to understand the choices you’re saying Congress has. Congress can tax everybody and set up a public health care system.
MR. CARVIN: Yes.
JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: That would be okay?
MR. CARVIN: Yes. Tax power is -JUSTICE
MR. CARVIN: I would accept that.
The people lack the knowledge to save themselves.
I hope the MSM pays for their part in all this. The Media are rotten to the core.
All of the wrong political persuasion.
There will be enough support you vote wont matter so you have my permission to sit out, but do consider your local candidates may need some support.
Liberals don’t have brains. They have a plan and they have to follow it step by step.
If soto had spent less time rabblerousing for LaRaza and more time reading case law, shed know the law that requires ER treatment is approaching 30 years old.
As an activist for LaRaza, she should be completely aware that no hispanic, especially, has ever been turned away from a maternity ward, or an emergency room.
As a California resident, she should also be completely aware of the cost to the hospitals and State, and the number of hospitals that have gone bankrupt, from those who are too lazy to look up a doctor in the phone book and make an appointment, and instead choose to use the emergency rooms as their personal free day-clinic for the smallest of complaints.
‘..Typical Liberal tactic: come up with some BS strawman scenario, that convince the weak minded that it can only be avoided in the future by shredding the Constitution....’
Exactly. I continue to be puzzled by why....WHY..do we not hear Republicans speaking out LOUDLY and clearly about things like this to expose the blatant bias.
The self-named Wise Latina... and we are stuck with her for the rest of her natural life. Ugh.....
Right there is your UNCONSTITUTIONAL law that should be challenged in the SCOTUS. That "law" is tantamount to forced slavery ... PERIOD!
If the doctors and/or hospital want to treat these people out of the kindness of their hearts or make that a policy of the hospital, then no problem. But forced "charity" work is slavery unless it is community service that you agree to after being convicted of a crime.