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Lessons from the Fall of RomneyCare
Cato Institute ^ | January/February 2008 | Michael Tanner

Posted on 04/01/2012 4:11:50 PM PDT by God'sgrrl

When then-Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney signed into law the nation’s most far-reaching state health care reform proposal, it was widely expected to be a centerpiece of his presidential campaign. In fact Governor Romney bragged that he would "steal" the traditionally Democratic issue of health care. "Issues which have long been the province of the Democratic Party to claim as their own will increasingly move to the Republican side of the aisle," he told Bloomberg News Service shortly after signing the bill. He told other reporters that the biggest difference between his health care plan and Hillary Clinton’s was "mine got passed and hers didn’t." more...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare; romney; romneycare
A financially secure candidate does not ensure a win. The Average hardworking American doesn't want a used car salesman "like" leader in the oval office. Romney can't be trusted.
1 posted on 04/01/2012 4:11:56 PM PDT by God'sgrrl
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To: God'sgrrl

So what else is new? Other than GOP once again backed a loser candidate. In some perverse way, I’m going to relish Romney go to the same historical trash heap as Dole and McCain.


2 posted on 04/01/2012 4:20:11 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

BINGO


3 posted on 04/01/2012 4:21:40 PM PDT by God'sgrrl (twitter.com/Women4Santorum)
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To: A Navy Vet
So what else is new? Other than GOP once again backed a loser candidate. In some perverse way, I’m going to relish Romney go to the same historical trash heap as Dole and McCain.

If he looses we will see bumper stickers not with GWB but with Sarah's Face sayin' Miss Me Yet?

4 posted on 04/01/2012 4:24:48 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: God'sgrrl
...he told Bloomberg News Service shortly after signing the bill. He told other reporters that the biggest difference between his health care plan and Hillary Clinton’s was "mine got passed and hers didn’t.

What a whore he is.

He will say ANYTHING to better his chances. He has no allegiance to a political agenda in any way shape or form except the agenda of self promotion.

The GOP not only gives us McCain and expected us to be loyal to the party but they turn around and increase the ante with Romney and expect us to be fooled again!

5 posted on 04/01/2012 4:29:55 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: God'sgrrl
(I can't believe we have so many turncoat so-called "conservatives" willing to vote for a socialist healthcare guy...On what grounds will they EVER be able to critique ObamaCare on???)

In 1854, we had the abolitionists "Free-soil" party [a party that kicked Whig butt!] that merged with the then-new Republican party to intensify its "social-issues" base...(In 1856, the Republican party said it would tackle the "twin relics of barbarism" -- slavery & polygamy...and it did for the next 40+ years!)

Now we have it all in reverse!

We have a descendent of polygamists [great-grandparents & at one point in the family tree, BOTH great-great grandparents were not only polygamists, but brothers...both Lds "apostles" at that]...
...rising to the top of a party...
...that's rapidly diluting its social-issues base...
...chasing it away as fast it can go...

Mark my words...the GoP right now is 29% of registered voters...
...Once it nominates Romney...
...that'll likely to drop to around 25% [me included...and I encourage others to go]...
...then after Romney loses, don't be surprised to see that % drop to under 20% of the registered-voter pie by 2013!

The Republicans are headed for extinction -- like the Whig party!

6 posted on 04/01/2012 4:32:17 PM PDT by Colofornian ( Tell us: Why do we want to vote for ONE socialist to defeat ANOTHER socialist again?)
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To: God'sgrrl

Geez...so true! Seems that we are heading down the path of what use to be Democrats (now still called Republicans)..


7 posted on 04/01/2012 4:50:49 PM PDT by Deagle (nOT)
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To: Colofornian
The Republicans are headed for extinction -- like the Whig party!

Look at Coulter, supporting GoProud, dissing Romney, supporting Romney. The true conservative is dying on the vine.
8 posted on 04/01/2012 5:03:51 PM PDT by God'sgrrl (twitter.com/Women4Santorum)
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To: Colofornian
I can't believe we have so many turncoat so-called "conservatives" willing to vote for a socialist healthcare guy...On what grounds will they EVER be able to critique ObamaCare on?

Romney better hope the SCOTUS cancels the whole of Obamacare and takes the issue off the table.

9 posted on 04/01/2012 5:20:09 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: A Navy Vet
In some perverse way, I’m going to relish Romney go to the same historical trash heap as Dole and McCain.

I hope you also relish the destruction of this nation that one more Obama term will guarantee. It is game, set, and match for the USA.

10 posted on 04/01/2012 5:35:15 PM PDT by kabar
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To: God'sgrrl

I suppose that Romney decided that he could do something far more efficiently and in a far more cost-effective way than the DemocRATS. He did, you can bet that what the DemocRATS would have imposed something far worse. But it’s something that should never have been done in the first place.


11 posted on 04/01/2012 5:57:00 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: God'sgrrl

FUMR!!


12 posted on 04/01/2012 6:00:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: God'sgrrl

13 posted on 04/01/2012 6:46:09 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: God'sgrrl

14 posted on 04/01/2012 6:48:32 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: JediJones

Awesome, I need to steal it!


15 posted on 04/01/2012 6:58:52 PM PDT by God'sgrrl (twitter.com/Women4Santorum)
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To: God'sgrrl
 American doesn't want a used car salesman "like" leader in the oval office. Romney can't be trusted.
 
Engine?  Never mind the engine. 
 

 
Can't you see how that Golden Chrome shines?  
 
Look, how'bout we throw in a free trip to Planet Kolob for you and the missus, err mister, err, parter?  Or some "free" healthcare?

16 posted on 04/01/2012 7:14:16 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: God'sgrrl

for later.


17 posted on 04/01/2012 7:17:44 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: LomanBill

18 posted on 04/01/2012 7:26:13 PM PDT by God'sgrrl (twitter.com/Women4Santorum)
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To: bkopto
Romney better hope the SCOTUS cancels the whole of Obamacare and takes the issue off the table.

RomneyCare is not off the table; it's still law in the Bay State. Planned Parenthood still has a permanent position on its oversight committee because Romney wouldn't veto that portion of it.

RomneyCare is still doing $50 taxpayer-funded abortions in MA...blood is still on his hands.

19 posted on 04/01/2012 7:26:46 PM PDT by Colofornian ( Tell us: Why do we want to vote for ONE socialist to defeat ANOTHER socialist again?)
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To: LomanBill

smiles and rainbows


20 posted on 04/01/2012 7:27:25 PM PDT by God'sgrrl (twitter.com/Women4Santorum)
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To: LomanBill

smiles and rainbows


21 posted on 04/01/2012 7:27:40 PM PDT by God'sgrrl (twitter.com/Women4Santorum)
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To: God'sgrrl

>>smiles and rainbows

Zane Grey had some thoughts on that Jackwagon full of manure.

http://books.google.com/books?id=f-B5ijNINnQC&pg=PA30&lpg=PA30&dq=Mormons+Rainbow&source=bl&ots=zFhhAUI4rX&sig=D-MDFpDObCQ4SD8ITjsXdEd9uYM&hl=en


22 posted on 04/01/2012 8:15:39 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Colofornian

Believe me, I don’t argue with your points in the least; I agree with you. But if the SCOTUS nullifies Obamacare, I don’t see how Obama gains from arguing the similarities of his defunct healthcare plan with NittWitt’s plan in Massachusetts, in the general.


23 posted on 04/01/2012 8:22:41 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: kabar
I hope you also relish the destruction of this nation

Tell that to the GOP E! They picked 'their' LIBERAL POS.

24 posted on 04/02/2012 12:30:24 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: God'sgrrl
The issue isn't Romney, but ideas. From the Cato article:

Although it has received less media attention than other aspects of the bill, one of the most significant features of the legislation is the creation of the Massachusetts Health Care Connector to combine the current small-group and individual markets under a single unified set of regulations. Supporters such as Robert E. Moffit and Nina Owcharenko of the Heritage Foundation consider the Connector to be the single most important change made by the legislation, calling it "the cornerstone of the new plan" and "a major innovation and a model for other states."

So the "brain trust" at the "conservative" Heritage Foundation, the one Rush always mentions, thought Romneycare was the solution. Now we know better.

The danger is bad ideas. Romney's going to be the nominee. All the wailing and gnashing of teeth in the world isn't going to change that. As conservatives we have a grand opportunity, but time is fleeting. Romney's desperate to solidify the nomination. Now's the time to put our people in tight and close to him. No POTUS runs the country. It is those advisers and staff that do so.

Our focus should and must be controlling the agenda of ideas out there. There are a few key areas that need attention and control - rebinding the Commerce Clause (Lochner, Wickard v. Filburn, etc.); reeling in the regulatory agencies and restoring Congressional oversight; and insuring state's rights are enforced per the US Constitution.

Federal overreach is the issue across the board. The solution is wringing concessions out of Romney right now while he's most amenable to them and the most desperate. Judicial appointments are critical. Get those concessions now in exchange for our support. With a strong Congress and Romney's desperate need to shed Obamacare's shadow he's stepped right into our playground - it's a state issue. That's an opportunity and a grand one.

He's placed himself in a corner. If Obamacare is a state's rights issue, what else is too? Santorum and Gingrich are out. Palin absolutely will not run. There will not be a brokered convention. We need to start moving this country back to its Founding roots. Doing that now with Romney makes the most sense. Flailing at him until he secures the nomination is a losing proposition for those things we care most about.

25 posted on 04/02/2012 3:53:50 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: presently no screen name
We are not talking about the GOP, we are talking about the "perverse" enjoyment you are going to take in an Obama victory. I don't understand why you are blaming the Republican Party for Romney's possible nomination. Millions of voters have gone to the polls to make that decision. And no one was excluded from running or voting.

You must plow the fields with the oxen God gave you. Anbody but Obama should be the objective once the nominee is selected. The reality is that it is the GOP's race to lose. Obama has a record to run on now. No more hope and change.

26 posted on 04/02/2012 6:55:49 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
And no one was excluded from...voting

Well, that was the FIRST mistake...

27 posted on 04/02/2012 7:14:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Jim Noble

Depended on the state in terms of open and closed primaries. We started with nine candidates. The primary process may be a tortured one, but it does winnow out those who can’t raise money, develop a good grassroots ground game, and manage their resources.


28 posted on 04/02/2012 7:21:03 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
We are not talking about the GOP

"I am" because I'm addressing the REAL problem. You aren't.

You are too naive - just the way the GOP E likes them. Your POS candidate is a LIBERAL. I don't vote for liberals. I vote for pro-Americans, not scum. Case closed.

Take your rant to your master.

29 posted on 04/02/2012 1:24:33 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

LOL. Welcome to Obamaville.


30 posted on 04/02/2012 1:34:17 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
You must plow the fields with the oxen God gave you.

YOU don't tell me what to do! Got it? God is good and HE hates EVIL and so do I. Evil plays in the hands of those who try to manipulate others with their "MUST". Drop it!

Embrace your PRO HOMO, PRO ABORTION, anti traditional marriage, high unemployment Gov, anti-gun appointment of liberal judges Big Gov't socialistic healthcare candidate ALL YOU WANT. Mitt's an imposter - he belongs to the 'rat party and satan pawns paved the way that - one way or another - satan will sit in our WH - to bring the ultimate destruction on America. But NOT on my vote.

I WILL never taint myself with voting for EVIL by putting satan's pawn in the WP. It's just not happening. YOU NEED to get it over by the way "I" choose to vote - not everyone is in the gutter. God's OWN cannot be manipulated - so don't try it. For God will NOT be mocked, what you sow, you reap, more than you sow, later than you sow. And that's for ALL the manipulation by the GOP over the years - and MITT - their 'later' will soon be upon them. Hint: In the end, they don't win - only for a short time and then comes destruction - God's wrath.

Now I believe I made myself very clear - even for the clueless and naive - so I trust you will 'get it'.

31 posted on 04/02/2012 1:57:30 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: kabar
The primary process may be a tortured one,

Not for the POS who has the media on it's side and who LIES as easily as he breathes.

but it does winnow out those who can’t raise money

VS. those who have been GIVEN money by big business to be their whore.

develop a good grassroots ground game

The POS 'grassroots' have been given deals and bought off!! Not rocket science for those with a brain cell.

32 posted on 04/02/2012 2:07:13 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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