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Wrong house raided during drug search; police admit mistake
Post Standard Syracuse NY ^ | 3/28/12

Posted on 04/01/2012 5:32:48 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

Fred Skinner, 76, of Victory, was caught off-guard on Tuesday when police officers broke through his front door during a drug raid, only to find out they had the wrong house

Skinner said at least six police officers broke into his house, smashed through his porch door, and then his front door. The house at on McNeely Road was raided for drugs for over five minutes before police realized they had the wrong house by looking through his mail. After the police realized it was the wrong house, they took the handcuffs off him and left.

Auburn police officers were involved in the raid conducted by the Finger Lakes Drug Task Force. Auburn Police Chief Gary Giannotta admitted the mistake and told WSYR that he only remembers police raiding a wrong house four times in the last 16 years.


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To: Talisker

Absolutely spot on.

SWAT are specialists, and so they should be. Got a friend who is a SWAT sniper. 95% of the time she works as a normal cop with her regular partner who is also her spotter.

She has said that they are being called out more and more often for things that would ordinarily be done by the regular cops.
She is mega peeved at it - compares it to using Marines to break up a playground fight, plus it throws their shifts all to hell.
Mostly it is political. Mayor wants to look tough on crime? Use the SWAT team. Budget appropriations due? Use the SWAT team to keep the funding.


51 posted on 04/01/2012 11:10:47 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: The KG9 Kid; Behind Liberal Lines

Follow-up on break-in posted last week: Once the press got hold of the story, cops compensated the wronged homeowner, per OP.

And this lovely quote FTA: Auburn Police Chief Gary Giannotta admitted the mistake and told WSYR that he only remembers police raiding a wrong house four times in the last 16 years.

And how many violated persons and dead dogs in those homes, Chief?


52 posted on 04/02/2012 5:28:36 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: EnglishCon

I agree with you and the original poster...these SWAT teams are special teams for a very special purpose...serving search warrants when no threat is perceived should not be one of them. Also, it seems now every force just has to have one.

One more thing, no knock middle of the night raids are misused IMO. Storming into one’s home in the middle of the night over a non violent crime perceived to be taking place or evidence thereof on the premise should not be sufficient reason for knocking down someone’s door and storming in like some kind of commando attacking enemy HQ. Compounding that by handcuffing a 76yo person who did not seem to be a risk seems beyond the pale. FWIW, I have served quite a few SWs in my time both as a team member and leader. NOTHING like this ever happened because the activity was planned and the degree of force was designed for the event. No one shot, no dogs killed and no mistaken addresses either on my watch. “4 in 16 years” like that is something to be proud of. Seems indictable.


53 posted on 04/02/2012 5:39:50 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; All
Maybe the penalty for the bureaucrats that make these mistakes should along the lines of an ‘eye for a eye’ - one of them gets randomly raided by another police department so they are subjected to the same “treatment”.

That happening a few times to the judges or officers that perpetrate things crimes would maybe have the powers that be take a little pause and little care before issuing or conducting one of these warrants.

BTW, what is so all fired important with these raids that It’s necessary to put the public and LEO’s in danger with these sort of tactics?

54 posted on 04/02/2012 5:40:03 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Of course, if any civilian did this it would be felony criminal mischief.

But wait! There's more!

Breaking and entering, destruction of property, illegal detention, assault and battery, etc.

55 posted on 04/02/2012 5:44:07 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: BerserkPatriot

How about that Richard Jewell/Janet Reno SNL skit as a “remedy”?

Once a week for a year, the homeowner gets to kick the miscreants in the crotch as hard as they want.

Seriously, though, if LEOs have a warrant,
walk up to the door with the warrant in hand and the handgun in the holster. Knock, serve the warrant.


56 posted on 04/02/2012 5:45:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Auburn Police Chief Gary Giannotta admitted the mistake and told WSYR that he only remembers police raiding a wrong house four times in the last 16 years.

That's about four times too many. Where's the accountability? I'm sure there's away to pinpoint the house you're going to raid before you do it. Haven't these guys heard of google or yahoo maps?

57 posted on 04/02/2012 5:49:13 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: MrB
Seriously, though, if LEOs have a warrant, walk up to the door with the warrant in hand and the handgun in the holster. Knock, serve the warrant.

And have a few back-up officers waiting in back for the ones who try to duck out...

58 posted on 04/02/2012 6:38:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: MrB
Once a week for a year, the homeowner gets to kick the miscreants in the crotch as hard as they want.

LOL! That would make them think twice.

I don’t really understand what is so all fired important that they need those no-knock warrants – because someone may dump the evidence down the toilet???

THAT makes it worth putting a bunch of people in danger? As a last resort, why can’t they just test for drug residue in the commode? Besides, if you’ve got a lot in your ‘stash’ won’t it take awhile to get rid of it?
[Hmmm maybe that’s the true reason the Federalies mandated low-flow toilets anyway]

59 posted on 04/02/2012 6:48:14 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Yep, no problem.

Just no more “dynamic entries”. Ever. At all.


60 posted on 04/02/2012 6:52:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
police admit mistake

That part of your headline was an April Fools joke, right?

61 posted on 04/02/2012 9:02:00 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: MrB
Just no more “dynamic entries”. Ever. At all.

They do have their rare place--in genuine hostage situations, and that's about it.

Not over a bag of weeds or somesuch.

62 posted on 04/02/2012 9:23:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

How long would a bank teller keep his job if he deposited $1,000,000 into the wrong account. Would he be permitted four “foul up”s of that magnitiude in sixteen years?


63 posted on 04/02/2012 11:56:36 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: BerserkPatriot
because someone may dump the evidence down the toilet???

THAT makes it worth putting a bunch of people in danger? As a last resort, why can’t they just test for drug residue in the commode? Besides, if you’ve got a lot in your ‘stash’ won’t it take awhile to get rid of it?

And won't the memory of having had to flush your big stash be sufficient deterrent against future drug possession? No-knock drug raids make no sense however you slice it.

64 posted on 04/02/2012 12:31:54 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

If that is the reason for those types of raids, we definitely need address our priorities – is that a good enough justification for putting a number of people in danger?

It’s really just a flimsy excuse for a major governmental overreach at the expense of individual freedom.


65 posted on 04/02/2012 1:02:19 PM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: sport

If the old man had been injured or worse, you can bet the cops would have “found” some drugs.


66 posted on 04/02/2012 5:31:12 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: GladesGuru

>Can’t have a thinking cop, can we?

Of course not; but not for the reasons you think.
If they were to “read the book” then they would begin to see just how much the “ruling class” violates what’s in the book. That is to say, that if any sizable & concentrated collection of Law Enforcement types were to enforce the law [uniformly] the “ruling class” would be jailed.

An interesting example is US Code, Title 18, Chapter 13, Sec 242 — Deprivation of rights under color of law ( http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242 ) if enforced would require the arrest of Law Enforcement officers enforcing the War on Drugs (blatantly unconstitutional, esp as prohibition required an Amendment)... but even more interesting, sec 241 would require the arrest of the legislatures, judges, prosecutors, and jailers involved in the War on Drugs. (Conspiracy against rights.)


67 posted on 04/03/2012 12:42:14 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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