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Rick Santorum: I may 'sneak' Wisconsin win
Politico ^ | 4/2/12 10:02 AM EDT | MJ LEE

Posted on 04/02/2012 8:54:38 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP

Rick Santorum predicted Monday on the eve of the Wisconsin primary that he may “sneak in and have an upset.”

“We feel good that we’re going to have a good result here in Wisconsin — we’re going to have a strong showing, maybe even sneak in and have an upset,” Santorum said from Green Bay, Wis., in an interview with Fox News. “But either way, we’ll have a strong showing in the face of obviously overwhelming money and overwhelming establishment support [for Romney].”

The former Pennsylvania senator, who is trailing Romney in the delegate race, was dismissive of the increasing GOP establishment support for his rival.

“I think he’s been saying that for a long, long time,” Santorum said of Romney’s most recent predictions that he will be the eventual Republican nominee. “And we’re still here. We just won the last state by 23 points. For someone who’s the eventual nominee – that’s — and by the way, being outspent, and being outspent pretty everywhere we go and yet we’re still hanging in there.”

He added, “The establishment is trying to shove Mitt Romney down the throats of conservatives and tea party folks and hopefully they’ll stand up and say, ‘Nope, the message of 2010 is just as viable now and we need a strong conviction principled conservative.’”

The most recent poll shows Romney leading Santorum in Wisconsin by 7 percentage points, while another survey last week showed the same gap between the two. (Snip)

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The Pennsylvania native also made another prediction about the upcoming contest in his home state on April 24.

“Well, absolutely,” Santorum said when asked if he will win that race. “No question about it.”

1 posted on 04/02/2012 8:54:43 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

LOL! The fantasy just gets deeper with every passing day.


2 posted on 04/02/2012 8:57:38 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I thought you wanted to stop Romney so that we would have a brokered convention? If you want that to happen somebody has to win some of these states other than Romney.

So why pick on the guy?


3 posted on 04/02/2012 9:03:20 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest
Santorum is making his own display. I merely posted the event. If there was ever any doubt that Santorum is only in this for his own self gratification, look no further than the result of his own denial and grandiose opinions he has of himself.

He is deluded.

4 posted on 04/02/2012 9:09:30 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

The mass fantasy is that Romney is a conservative.


5 posted on 04/02/2012 9:20:09 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I think you are Ann Coulter. This piece you posted is what a normal person campaigning would say.

They rarely go out and say, “hey, I am not delusional, we ain’t gonna win and we ain’t gonna try”. yee hah

That said, you didn’t answer my question on this thread or the other thread by the way.


6 posted on 04/02/2012 9:20:20 AM PDT by dforest
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Santorum is on third base because of a walk and a couple of passed balls. Poor thing thinks he hit a triple...
7 posted on 04/02/2012 9:21:37 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romney - Santorum: Twin Sons of Different Mothers...)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

That could very well happen. Voter apathy on the Romney side because of “inevitably” might result in a lower turnout and a Santorum victory. It’s not “delusional” to say that could happen. Of course, there are at least equal odds that the reverse will happen. I’m still hoping to stop Mittens. Call me “delusional” all you want, but I’m not quite ready to give up all hope.


8 posted on 04/02/2012 9:40:14 AM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: dforest

I think there are a bunch of freepers here who suddenly are hidden Mittbots, either that or they secretly wish for him to win.


9 posted on 04/02/2012 9:41:42 AM PDT by JSDude1
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Romney is in this for his own self gratification. I merely report the fact. All four left have big egos.


10 posted on 04/02/2012 9:45:27 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Doesn’t matter what anyone thinks of Santorum. Fact is, if you want to get to a brokered convention, you have to stop Romney.

If you indeed do want to stop Romney, tearing down the opposition is not exactly in your best interest or the best interest of conservatives.


11 posted on 04/02/2012 9:46:14 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: 21twelve; Absolutely Nobama; AFPhys; afraidfortherepublic; AmericanInTokyo; ...
Santorum for President Ping List.

FReepmail “Antoninus” to be added or removed.

12 posted on 04/02/2012 9:46:49 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: JSDude1

“I think there are a bunch of freepers here who suddenly are hidden Mittbots, either that or they secretly wish for him to win.”

I wonder how many are in common with the “Zimmerman is GUILTY!” bots...


13 posted on 04/02/2012 9:47:46 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: dforest

The is primary season proves the exact reason it is difficult to beat back socialism. Becoming very difficult for the “tea party” types to unite behind a guy to defeat the establishment’s guy. Now some are convinced otherwise that Romney is high and mighty.


14 posted on 04/02/2012 9:50:00 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: RecoveringPaulisto
They said the same thing you did in Illinois. They were absolutely certain that Santorum would win it, and the margin was only 5 points on the day before the primary.

Don't worry about “voter apathy”. There is a low turn out for every Primary on all sides. And you might want to reframe your definition of “hope”.

You had better “hope” that Santorum does not win, and does the right thing and drops out so we can build a strong offense around a solid candidate to go against Obama.

If this struggle continues much longer, Obama will walk away with it again, because our side of incurably weak and chaotic. That impression alone, will have a major effect on how the ignorant American public votes for a candidate.

15 posted on 04/02/2012 9:51:25 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
You had better “hope” that Santorum does not win, and does the right thing and drops out so we can build a strong offense around a solid candidate to go against Obama.

And who do you envision that being, if there is not a brokered convention?

16 posted on 04/02/2012 9:54:51 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Oh...no...I’m so scared. Obama might win a second term! Guess what? The odds of that are just as high if we nominate the GOP’s version of John Kerry as if we fight it to the convention. If you want to back the liberal flip-flopper from Mass., go ahead, but don’t expect me to hop on your bandwagon out of fear of Obama.


17 posted on 04/02/2012 9:57:43 AM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I still think Santorum and Romney are within two points of each other here in Wisconsin. I'm sure Romney will garner more votes in the Milwaukee and Madison areas. But the populations from outer areas can and may overcome this. It boils down to voter motivation. Folks are not going to be motivated to come out and vote *for* Romney, but are they sufficiently motivated to come out and vote *against* Romney ... that is the question. Santorum could actually "sneak" a victory here.


18 posted on 04/02/2012 10:00:58 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Lazlo in PA; PSYCHO-FREEP
Santorum has proved he is unfit to hold any public office..

Santorum Pronounces Zimmerman Guilty Before Trial, or Charge (breitbart)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7261/6886147024_74a7eed4c2_z.jpg
 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/31/article-2123247-126A2AF1000005DC-325_634x422.jpg
 
 
 

19 posted on 04/02/2012 10:04:20 AM PDT by wolficatZ ("We are no longer accepting comments on this article")
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To: Kenny
You can't see the forest because the trees are in the way.

We do not have to stop Romney. In doing so now, we stop ourselves in the process. NO, our main and only need at the moment, is to stop OBAMA.

Of course Romney is not the greatest candidate we have had, but we can deal with him. His promises to us are too deeply committed for him to betray what he says he will do. There are too many people like us who will hold him to it.

And the first thing we need to do to stop this, is remove Obama from office, not guarantee his second term with a candidate who will lose. If we drag this out any further, that alone will be a threat to us winning.

Like Ryan and company now say, a brokered convention would be a disaster, which leads me to reframe my former thinking. I can plainly see where they are coming from and have to admit, they are right. And since Newt is no longer even a remote possibility, either now or if a brokered convention is forced, we have run out of logical options.

20 posted on 04/02/2012 10:05:15 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

People of Wisconsin and Maryland, an Media wants you to believed Mitt will win for America and for Obama!


21 posted on 04/02/2012 10:12:59 AM PDT by coton_lover ("He that lives upon hope will die fasting." -Benjamin Franklin)
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To: wolficatZ

Then vote Romney. He seem like he is your type of guy.


22 posted on 04/02/2012 10:14:48 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: so_real
The only thing that might support your claim, is if the Democrats Prank the vote, like they did in Michigan, Alabama and Mississippi.

They accounted for nearly 10% of the vote in Michigan, which of course were radical Obama voters trying to upset our primary.

But since Santorum has put his foot in his mouth countless times since, Santorum is much better known now than he was over a month ago.

There is always a remote possibility of anything happening, but Romney has a very comfortable lead, and has kept if for several weeks now, unlike previous states. I think we will see a result similar to what the polls predict.

23 posted on 04/02/2012 10:16:30 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Rush Limbaugh said today that if it’s all over, why is Santorum still getting attacked?

Why are you still pounding on Santorum, and calling his supporters deluded, if it’s all over?

You’re looking very much like a Romneybot, and it isn’t pretty. lol


24 posted on 04/02/2012 10:19:39 AM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I don’t think a brokered convention is such a bad thing. Highly preferable to Romney. I seriously don’t think Romney can win. All the media who loves him today will turn as soon as he’s nominated. His wealth will be a huge issue and they’ll make sure his usual negative attacks aren’t allowed.

Not only that, I believe that even if SCOTUS rules against Obamacare, Romney would find another way to do it if elected. He believes in it, he’s said so.


25 posted on 04/02/2012 10:19:55 AM PDT by Kenny
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7 posted on Mon Apr 02 2012 11:21:37 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by gov_bean_ counter: “Santorum is on third base because of a walk and a couple of passed balls. Poor thing thinks he hit a triple... “

Okay, let's say you're right. Maybe Santorum really **IS** on third base because of things that weren't mostly his doing. I can accept that; I've been unhappy with the campaign disorganization of many of the major candidates so far except Romney, and I can't accept Romney's flip-flopping on key issues.

Third base is one stop from home plate. Do you have another candidate who is on third base? Or even second?

My understanding is that Republican National Committee rules require candidates to have a plurality in at least five states to have their names placed into nomination. Right now that means only Romney and Santorum qualify. Unless you have a plan for Gingrich to win three more states to add to his wins in Georgia and South Carolina, Gingrich's name can't even be in nomination.

You tell me how to get a candidate other than Romney and Santorum to the five-state threshold and I'll consider someone else as an alternative to Santorum to be a viable alternative to Mitt Romney.

Over on another thread, here...

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2866882/posts?page=61#61

... I said that after Tuesday it may be time for a united anti-Romney ticket. Based on the RNC rules I think there's no alternative but to have Santorum at the head of the ticket, but I'm very, very, open to your ideas on how to get not only Gingrich but also Perry and Cain (who previously endorsed Gingrich), and possibly Bachmann to have a united anti-Romney front.

I think that's the only way left for conservatives to win this race this year. Otherwise we're going to have a bitter split inside the Republican Party with a good chance of re-electing Obama.

That does not need to happen. We're rapidly throwing away the hard work of 2010, and only Obama can be happy with what is going on now in the Republican race.

26 posted on 04/02/2012 10:20:07 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

And I am blinded by Romney’s motivation, namely, his altruism and deeply abiding love of country. What’s the sign for “sarc”?


27 posted on 04/02/2012 10:23:33 AM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum.)
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To: Kenny
Romney made a recent declaration that he would undeniably repeal Obamacare. Just the budget nightmare and financial impossibility alone, make it insolvent. When SCOTUS rules against it, it is dead. Period. And Romney will have no say in bringing it back. It would be political suicide to even consider it.
28 posted on 04/02/2012 10:33:19 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Of course Romney is not the greatest candidate we have had, but we can deal with him. His promises to us are too deeply committed for him to betray what he says he will do. There are too many people like us who will hold him to it.

This has got to be the most hysterically funny thing I've ever read on FR. Thanks for the laugh! :-)

29 posted on 04/02/2012 10:35:53 AM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

You are always ripping Rick. He’s the only one with potential to stop Romney. I’m donating to Rick again today. Rush also complimented santorum today. Let’s try and fight the rom-machine.


30 posted on 04/02/2012 10:39:19 AM PDT by Yaelle (Donate to Rick to stop Romney in WI! Make calls, pray, donate!!)
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To: so_real

That is encouraging thanks. Go santorum! Romney is to me as phony as NBC with their fraud on Zimmerman.


31 posted on 04/02/2012 10:43:40 AM PDT by Yaelle (Donate to Rick to stop Romney in WI! Make calls, pray, donate!!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

“If this struggle continues much longer, Obama will walk away with it again, because our side of incurably weak and chaotic.”

The reason Obama will walk away with it is because the GOP is on its way to nominating a candidate who believes in socialized medicine, restrictive gun control, forcing Catholic hospitals to provide contraception, global warming, cap & trade, etc. He also is proving to be a candidate that will say anything and spend any amount of money to get elected.

The reason Obama will walk away with it is because based records (not rhetoric), there is no difference between Romney and Obama...other than the fact that Obama’s tax plan defines the rich at $250k, whereas Romney defines it as $200k.

This loser couldn’t even beat McCain...now you think he will win against the $1Billion dollar Obama political machine? Because Romney won’t be able to contrast with Obama on any issue, he will lose in a manner that will make Carter look Reaganesque. Romney’s only claim is the economy...if the news spins the economy as improving, its over.


32 posted on 04/02/2012 10:43:44 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall
None of us here, ever wanted or planned for this to happen, but the reality of a Romney nomination are very close to a reality. Planning our approach to the inevitable is a healthy
way to protect our best interests.

Scoff all you want, but unless an absolute miracle happens, we will be forced to do exactly that.

33 posted on 04/02/2012 10:44:05 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

“....so we can build a strong offense around a solid candidate to go against Obama.”

Is it possible to build a “strong offense” when your candidate is about as “solid” as a wet dog turd?


34 posted on 04/02/2012 10:46:14 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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Polls today with WI on Tuesday and PA on the 24th of April.

Wisconsin Republican Presidential Primary

April 3 (Winner Take All Primary) 42 Delegates

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample Romney Santorum Paul Gingrich Spread
RCP Average 3/22 - 4/1 -- 40.3 32.8 10.7 7.8 Romney +7.5
WeAskAmerica 4/1 - 4/1 1173 LV 39 31 16 15 Romney +8
PPP (D) 3/31 - 4/1 609 LV 43 36 11 8 Romney +7
Rasmussen Reports 3/29 - 3/29 717 LV 44 34 7 7 Romney +10
NBC News/Marist 3/26 - 3/27 740 LV 40 33 11 8 Romney +7
WPR/St. Norbert 3/24 - 3/28 403 LV 37 32 8 4 Romney +5
Marquette University 3/22 - 3/25 349 LV 39 31 11 5 Romney +8

Pennsylvania Republican Presidential Primary

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample Santorum Romney Gingrich Paul Spread
RCP Average 2/2 - 3/25 -- 34.8 26.0 10.0 9.8 Santorum +8.8
Franklin & Marshall 3/20 - 3/25 505 RV 30 28 6 9 Santorum +2
Quinnipiac 3/7 - 3/12 508 RV 36 22 8 12 Santorum +14
PPP (D) 3/8 - 3/11 564 RV 43 25 13 9 Santorum +18
Susquehanna 2/2 - 2/6 500 RV 30 29 13 9 Santorum +1

35 posted on 04/02/2012 10:47:09 AM PDT by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Exactly. Rush is onto the msm and psychofreep argument. Why bother to trash santorum if Romney has already won it?

Who could really want Romney, besides moderate dems? Every moderate dem I know wants him over Obama. Why? Because he is a dem to them. And he hasnt proven to be an f-up like Obama has, to them.


36 posted on 04/02/2012 10:52:28 AM PDT by Yaelle (Donate to Rick to stop Romney in WI! Make calls, pray, donate!!)
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To: deport
The PA data you listed was before all the major endorsements were announced, and especially, before the outcome of tomorrow's WI primary.

After that result is digested, all the polls will change, perhaps even dramatically. We will soon see where they lead.

37 posted on 04/02/2012 11:04:07 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Yaelle

“Why bother to trash Santorum if Romney has already won it.” That’s simple, because Rick hasn’t quit yet. Why drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? The outcome was certain but the Japanese were still fighting, which means more bloodshed and casualties. The outcome of the GOP primary is Romney wins, but every additional week of primaries that Rick and Newt (who I voted for so don’t call me a Romneybot) stay in is just more GOP bloodshed, bad feelings, wasted money, and rest and safety for Obama. The sooner this race becomes Romney vs Obama the better off we all are.


38 posted on 04/02/2012 11:14:00 AM PDT by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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I live here in WI, and there is a HUGE e-mail/FB campaign to get libs to vote Santorum in the primary -— open primary means major false-flag opportunities.


39 posted on 04/02/2012 11:17:59 AM PDT by Unshackled
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I’ve seen your Rick hate from one thread to the next. I’ve seen you ridicule AND BULLY Santorum supporters from one end of FR to the other. A miracle just may happen, but in the meantime, I’ve seen you do all you can to make sure that miracle never happens.

Why, if a Romney nomination is so inevitable, WHY do you persist in assisting the GOP-e’s efforts in shoving a liberal candidate down our throats? I’m a Constitutional right-to-life loving CONSERVATIVE, and I REFUSE TO BE MARGINALIZED.


40 posted on 04/02/2012 11:18:11 AM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum.)
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To: Unshackled

So what? noob.

You just signed in today to tell us that?


41 posted on 04/02/2012 11:25:01 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Yaelle

This psyop will only work if we let it.

BTW, if Romney is so conservative, then how do the liberal states know to vote for him? lol


42 posted on 04/02/2012 11:27:07 AM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

It does us absolutely not good to replace Obama with ORomnaba. We get nowhere on saving the country. We do not even get better judges out of it. That is, if Romney could even win. The Dim with the D beats the Dim with the R every time.


43 posted on 04/02/2012 11:42:02 AM PDT by Ingtar
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To: Lazlo in PA

Can you please send this message on, Laz?

Senator Ron Johnson’s decision to endorse Mitt Romney may be backfiring. The comments on his Facebook page are 95% negative. Please call his local WI. campaign office to add your voice;
(920) 230-7070. Thanks, MM


44 posted on 04/02/2012 11:55:13 AM PDT by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: Yaelle

Agreed. Romney has three positions on every issue; just ask him which one you'd like to hear.


45 posted on 04/02/2012 12:59:05 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Lauren BaRecall; PSYCHO-FREEP
FWIW, I like Rick Santorum as well and declared my support for him early. His turning point from also-ran to contender, in my opinion, was his solid reply to the gay soldier in Iraq, an issue which everyone else was willing to ignore to tip-toe around.

That being said, I don't think PSYCHO-FREEP has been particularly unfair and nowhere near as hyper-partisan as the Newtbots who still think their guy can win.

If Rick doesn't pull off an upset or at least come close in Wisconsin tomorrow, then I'm afraid the negative momentum could carry into Pennsylvania. If Rick loses here in PA, I think his political career is over and that would be a tragedy. If he suspends his campaign gracefully should the expected happen tomorrow night in Wisconsin, I think he starts 2016 as the front runner. And there's not a whole lot the GOP-e can do about it.

46 posted on 04/02/2012 1:46:46 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Lauren BaRecall
Actually, it's the Romney supporters who are deluded and have been brain washed to think that this race is over, that Romney is inevitable to win this thing.

What they are NOT telling is ?

At this point in time, none of them will get to the 1144 mark, not even Mitt Romney, and the media, Romney, the establishment knows that now.

They are running scared that Rick Santorum could very well over take and surpass, yes, I said it , surpass Mitt Romney in the delegate count next month so long as he does not drop out.

Hmmmmm ? makes you wonder why all the calls from the media pundits, the establishment, for Rick to drop out, they want this over as soon as possible.

They are circling their wagons around Mitt Romney and are pushing Mitt Romney very hard on the people, however ? the people are saying HELL NO !

It's like how the Battle of the Bulge during WWII was Nazi Germany's last great major offensive, so to ? this is their last major offensive to get Romney over the top and end this thing.
Ohh yes, they are desperate and scared, scared that Mitt Romney is on the verge of losing it all to Rick Santorum.
What they are not telling you is that even Mitt Romney might not even get the 1144 delegates needed.
What they are not telling you is that Rick Santorum could very well surpass Mitt Romney in the delegate math in May and June.
47 posted on 04/02/2012 3:44:16 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: dforest

You cornered him. He is a phony with a separate agenda....BTW, the WISCONSIN base is ON FIRE for Rick Santorum tomorrow! Hold on to your hats!


48 posted on 04/02/2012 5:45:57 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (BHO Wins, U.S.A. Goes Hardline Marxist. He Loses, Massive, Angry Domestic Rioting, Looting & Murder)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Well, he is either Ann or Sybil. He keeps bouncing around from one person to another, one idea to another, hates Santorum and now appears to be for Romney but used to be for Newt and an open convention.

Then he has the nerve to label others as delusional or not expert enough to appreciate his fine political skills.

geesh LOL


49 posted on 04/02/2012 6:32:44 PM PDT by dforest
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Wisconsin is not Illinois. There are no downstate fundie strongholds to give him hope.

He's just posturing now.

50 posted on 04/02/2012 6:40:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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