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EPA moves closer to OK of 15 percent ethanol gasoline
Fuel Fix ^ | April 2, 2012 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/03/2012 5:03:01 AM PDT by thackney

The federal government announced Monday it has taken a step toward wide distribution of gasoline mixed with 15 percent ethanol by allowing manufacturers to register as suppliers.

While the EPA is moving the process forward by allowing the registration, E15 still must clear another set of federal tests and become a registered fuel in individual states. Ethanol makers then must convince petroleum marketers to sell it at gas stations.

Most ethanol fuel sold for passenger cars and pickups today is 10 percent ethanol and 90 percent gas. The new blend that boosts ethanol to 15 percent would only be sold for use in 2001 and newer vehicles.

(Excerpt) Read more at fuelfix.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigcorn; e15; energy; ethanol; gasoline; gasprices; petrol
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1 posted on 04/03/2012 5:03:05 AM PDT by thackney
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To: thackney

We should be trying to rid ourselves of the crap. Hopefully we will be able to join with NH in going back to real gasoline.


2 posted on 04/03/2012 5:05:45 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: thackney

Does this mean that I can sue the EPA ....for damage to my car’s internal combustion system?


3 posted on 04/03/2012 5:09:15 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

New Hampshire still sells gasoline with ethanol.

I don’t know if their house bill passed the senate, but even if it does, it won’t take affect until two other states pass a similar bill.

http://www.salemnews.com/region/x579807975/NH-House-Ban-ethanol-in-gasoline


4 posted on 04/03/2012 5:10:36 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Yech!


5 posted on 04/03/2012 5:11:28 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: thackney

$hit dont burn.


6 posted on 04/03/2012 5:13:15 AM PDT by allmost
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The New Hampshire bill is still in committee in their senate.

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/bill_status/bill_status.aspx?lsr=2731&sy=2012&sortoption=&txtsessionyear=2012&txtbillnumber=HB1214


7 posted on 04/03/2012 5:15:15 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Ethanol at 10% has ruined all my small engines on my yard equipment. The engines surge constantly and eventually lose power and quit. I’ve had to change carburetors every 2 to 5 years. At that age, the carbs and surrounding areas are always wet with gas caused by the rubber deterioration. The ethanol also has an affinity for water and I’ve seen rust in the bowls of the carbs that were replaced. The shop I go to now sells two stroke engine fuel (gas + oil premixed) without ethanol plus some inhibitors in quart-size sealed metal cans for $22/gallon! (sic) I’m actually trying it on my string trimmer. Next step is to go to the nearby marina and buy marine gas which apparently does not have ethanol in it.

The equipment shops are besieged with complaints about engine problems and life these days.

This is the biggest boondoggle ever and does nothing for the air, for fuel economy, for equipment maintenance costs and diverts precious arable land to growing fuel crops. It is pure insanity. If only we had politicians with the balls to stop this crap.


8 posted on 04/03/2012 5:15:54 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: thackney

I forgot, ethanol is a good idea ... because...???


9 posted on 04/03/2012 5:20:43 AM PDT by Coffee... Black... No Sugar (I'm gonna' BICKER!)
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>> Ethanol at 10% has ruined all my small engines on my yard equipment &etc

Wow. I feel like you’ve been looking over my shoulder or something. This has been my small engine experience as well, right down to the eight dollar a quart “moto-mix”! Thanks for the marine fuel tip though. I wonder if aviation gas is similarly free of ethanol.

>> It is pure insanity.

Yep. At least my truck and farm equipment are all diesel; even so, I’ve been seeing “10% bio-diesel” stickers on some fuel pumps, Wal-Mart’s for example, so that damned green revolution even infecting diesel. Biodiesel is hard on certain rubber components too. At least biodiesel’s lubricity is better than the typical ultra-low-sulfur diesel you buy at the pump, so you get *some* benefit from it.


10 posted on 04/03/2012 5:27:41 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Coffee... Black... No Sugar

>> I forgot, ethanol is a good idea ... because...???

Well, Archer Daniel Midland’s *shareholders* like it. :-)

Oh, and pols from corn states are pretty happy about it too.


11 posted on 04/03/2012 5:29:18 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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Great. Not only is gas well above $4/gallon here ($4.39 yesterday) I'm now going to get even less MPG because some UNELECTED GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRAT dictates 15% ethanol.

Hey Obama, tell me again about these "unelected" bureaucrats ruining all our lives again? You hypocritical SOB.

12 posted on 04/03/2012 5:33:16 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
“Ethanol at 10% has ruined all my small engines on my yard equipment. The engines surge constantly and eventually lose power and quit. I’ve had to change carburetors every 2 to 5 years...”

You have my sympathy on the small engine problems with your yard gear. So far, I've had no problems with my 2 year to 6 month old engines and hope that holds up.

I will say though that it is BS on the engine manufacturer's part that they have apparently not done the small specification changes (mainly materials used for elastomers, fuel lines and such). Whoever is working on your engines should be up on the exact materials needed and just switch out his replacement parts inventory, unless he is just trying to assure a greater amount of repeat business. 10 or 15 years ago when ethanol in gasoline was phasing in, I can understand the tangled up mess of fuel system materials and incompatibilities, no excuse now though.

If you have a drag strip or airport close by, it would be lots cheaper to get some racing grade fuel or aviation gas than that outrageous $22/gallon stuff. Robbery!

13 posted on 04/03/2012 5:34:22 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: thackney

Some reservations sell EtOH-free gas.

I paid $3.789/gal on 3/27.


14 posted on 04/03/2012 5:35:15 AM PDT by seton89 (Are the Ten Commandments a living document?)
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To: thackney
This helps the conspiracy. Introduce a higher % of ethanol in gasoline which reduces the MPG, which leads to pushing more electric cars, which reinforces the Regime's anti-freedom plans, and supports gubmint-owned car makers. It's all part of the same plan to screw Americans.
15 posted on 04/03/2012 5:39:23 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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Goodie.
Something 50% worse than
the 100% worse we got before.
And we’re doin’ this why????


16 posted on 04/03/2012 5:40:09 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: thackney

Little Boy Blue, come blow your horn;
The sheep’s in the meadow and
EPA’s in our corn!


17 posted on 04/03/2012 5:44:14 AM PDT by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Ethanol at 10% has ruined all my small engines on my yard equipment. The engines surge constantly and eventually lose power and quit.

I bought a new lawn mower last year and I've had to replace the spark plug and take the carb out and clean it.

I put the additive into the gas to keep it from doing a vapor lock but this ethanol really destroys these engines that are only used on occasions.

My snow blower coughs and sputters and it is because of the ethanol.

18 posted on 04/03/2012 5:44:23 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: thackney

This will make a bad situation worse. Do you think prices will be lowered when 15% ethanol is added instead of 10%? I don’t. So now, by summer, we’ll have $5 per gallon “gasoline” that gives fewer miles to the gallon than the “gasoline” at $1.82 did when Obama was immaculated.


19 posted on 04/03/2012 5:49:13 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Hootowl99

Agreed. Ethanol has been around for enough years that the small engine makers have no excuse for not adapting.


20 posted on 04/03/2012 5:49:30 AM PDT by sphinx
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