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BATFE Violates The Law Again(AK)
ammoland.com ^ | 3 April, 2012 | Don Young

Posted on 04/03/2012 4:06:17 PM PDT by marktwain

Anchorage, AK --(Ammoland.com)- BATFE is violating the law again.

Anchorage gun shops are being visited by BATFE agents that are requesting the shops 4473 forms as far back as 2007.

They claim they want to make copies of the “book”. This is defacto registration, against the law, and BATFE knows it.

Please inform everyone you know about this and notify any gun dealers you know that they don’t have to comply. Contact your congressman and senators and demand a full investigation.

Don Young and our Senators have been informed about what is happening. Congressman Young is acutely interested but our senators seem to be indifferent.

You can go to their websites to find their email forms. A contact at Congressman Young’s office is Eric Elam eric.elam@mail.house.gov

Don Young View Website Office of Congressman Don Young 2314 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Tel: (202)225-5765 Fax: (202)225-0425

Mark Begich View Website 111 Russell Senate Office Building Washington, DC 20510 Tel: (202) 224-3004 Fax: (202) 224-2354 Toll-free line: 1(877)501-6275* *Only toll-free for callers with an Alaska (907) area code.

Lisa Murkowski View Website 709 Hart Senate Building Washington, DC 20510 Tel: (202)224-6665 Fax: (202)224-5301

This information was provided by the Alaska Libertarians.

About: The mission of The Anchorage Second Amendment Task Force is to provide Alaskans with the knowledge of the meaning and true purpose of the second amendment to the U.S. Constitution, with which they may conduct themselves as responsible citizens of our republic. Visit: www.anchorage2atf.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: 2atf; ak; atf; banglist
This happened under the Clinton administration as well. ATF agents taking the "bound book" and making copies so as to have permanent records without a need for a criminal investigation.

I do not expect this administration to do anything but approve of this lawlessness.

1 posted on 04/03/2012 4:06:36 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Travis McGee
ping...
2 posted on 04/03/2012 4:16:22 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: marktwain

So, What happens when the Shop Owner tells the BATF agent “NO!”??


3 posted on 04/03/2012 4:25:31 PM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: G Larry

They get padlocked and all inventory confiscated and shipped to Mexico.


4 posted on 04/03/2012 4:27:23 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: marktwain
Thus begins the Final Phase, disarmed subjects become slaves. It all must take place before we can visualize the Obama vision. Make no mistake, once Obama care gets approved, the executive branch will outlaw firearms of all kinds. See the previous post

Once we get Obamacare, the President will apply this change of law and apply it to guns of all kinds. The law of intended consequences that Saul Alinsky gave us. It will happen so fast, the people will be taken by surprise.

5 posted on 04/03/2012 4:55:08 PM PDT by STD ([You must help] people in the communityÂ…feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

Of interest...Ping.


6 posted on 04/03/2012 5:01:43 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; ...
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Article, and comments # 1 through 5 .

Thanks, MestaMachine.

7 posted on 04/03/2012 5:08:42 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: G Larry
So, What happens when the Shop Owner tells the BATF agent “NO!”??

Ask them to use their name to sign a formal request. In my few dealings with a fed personnel, any demand to put their name to a document requesting an questionable/illegal action makes them blanch. Use a variation of the "To insure quality, we are recording . . .".

8 posted on 04/03/2012 5:25:36 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Chode; Travis McGee

More Obama Orders..


9 posted on 04/03/2012 5:26:17 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: G Larry
they lose their FFL... then it's off to court
10 posted on 04/03/2012 5:29:01 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
ATF is NOTHING but e bunch of criminals...
11 posted on 04/03/2012 5:30:38 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: marktwain

Why shouldn’t they? After all, Holder/Obama can murder 100s of Mexicans with FAF guns, and then give the middle finger to congress. What’s to stop them? Nothing at all. ABCNNBCBS sure won’t report it.


12 posted on 04/03/2012 5:41:06 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee; Chode

” Why shouldn’t they? After all, Holder/Obama can murder 100s of Mexicans with FAF guns, and then give the middle finger to congress. What’s to stop them? Nothing at all. ABCNNBCBS sure won’t report it.”

Nobody upstairs does anything, and Obama knows it. He gets worse every day.


14 posted on 04/03/2012 6:05:32 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: TheOldLady


15 posted on 04/03/2012 6:10:00 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
and it'll keep getting worse until the boy is gone, or it starts...
16 posted on 04/03/2012 6:33:59 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

either/or


17 posted on 04/03/2012 6:53:38 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
yup...
18 posted on 04/03/2012 7:27:50 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: STD
Once we get Obamacare, the President will apply this change of law and apply it to guns of all kinds.

Well, they can stuff their obamacare where their proctologist will find it. I'm not buying. Then they can only fine me for not buying it. The rest won't apply.

Note, mind you, that is only if they get Obamacare past the Supremes.

19 posted on 04/03/2012 9:11:24 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: sergeantdave
You and yours come on over to The Fortress (Hubby's and my house), and we'll hold them off together.  
20 posted on 04/04/2012 4:20:27 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Travis McGee

Nailed it.


21 posted on 04/04/2012 5:47:17 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: G Larry
So, What happens when the Shop Owner tells the BATF agent “NO!”??

Instead:

1) Activate a webcam with sound,

2) Inform the agent that this conversation is being recorded at a remote location, and

3) Ask him to state his name, display his ID to the camera, and state the law which he is operating under.

To a government employee, displaying recording equipment has an effect comparable to showing a cross to a vampire.

22 posted on 04/04/2012 5:55:08 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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