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Man hit in chest by stray bullet faced removing it himself (TX)
woai.com ^ | 5 March, 2012 | Laurie Salazar

Posted on 04/04/2012 2:18:46 PM PDT by marktwain

SAN ANTONIO- The man hit by a stray bullet while on the golf course Sunday afternoon says he was faced with a decision on whether to pull out the bullet that was lodged halfway in his chest.

Thirty one year old Justo Flores was recovering at home Monday afternoon 24 hours after he was struck by a stray bullet. He described how he could see the large bullet sticking out of his chest and the decision he was forced to make.

"I was like should I pull it out or shouldn't I pull it out because I was afraid if I pulled it out what would happen so I just left it in there,” explained Flores.

While on the course he heard what he never thought would become part of his fate.

“All day long I heard gun shots and I was thinking that sounds kind of close”.

Those shots were believed to be coming from a nearby gun range. By the time Flores got to the 12th green the gun range was only a mile away from him. The same distance he says police told him the bullet came from.

According to Flores, ”The bullet traveled about a mile before it hit me, they (police) said".

Before the bullet hit him the noise got very, very close.

Flores said, “I heard like whistling going by my ears at the top of my head and everything”.

Seconds later while Flores had no idea what was going on his friend quickly alerted him that he had been hit.

He was told, “Dude I think you just got hit by a stray bullet. I said there's no way, so I looked down at my shirt and I saw a hole with a little bit of smoke coming out”.

Justo Flores was rushed to SAMCC where the bullet was removed. He’s left with a scar and soreness in his chest. And while he's thankful it wasn't much worse he hopes police find out soon who is at fault and how this happened.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; range; sanantonio; tx
In another article, it says that the range was two miles from where Justo was hit. I have not found any information as to caliber or weight of the bullet.
1 posted on 04/04/2012 2:18:55 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Man...


2 posted on 04/04/2012 2:21:32 PM PDT by allmost
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To: marktwain

See what happens - Just the threat that Obamacare will be overturned and people are already having to tend their own gunshot wounds! Oh the humanity!


3 posted on 04/04/2012 2:22:25 PM PDT by slumber1 (Don't taze me bro!)
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To: marktwain

I’m having some trouble with his “smoke coming out of my shirt”part of the story.


4 posted on 04/04/2012 2:23:08 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: marktwain

General rule of thumb: If something is sticking in you, don’t pull it out!

It could be like removing the cork from an artery...


5 posted on 04/04/2012 2:25:55 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1170 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: marktwain
I was like should I pull it out or shouldn't I pull it out ...

Uh, no. You should leave that to a medical professional.

6 posted on 04/04/2012 2:26:00 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: marktwain
At a range of two miles, the bullet would have had to been fired at a near 45-degree angle, and would have been coming down at a similar angle.

I am sure that any forensic evidence of any kind is verboten, but I'd bet dollars to doughnut holes that the bullet was at no such angle to his sternum.

7 posted on 04/04/2012 2:32:45 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: marktwain

Wow, my BS meter pegged.

He’s an activist, or some con-artist gunning for a settlement.

And what an idiot journalist for reporting this —they NEVER know ANYTHING about guns at all.


8 posted on 04/04/2012 2:33:06 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Farmer Dean

Maybe it was really a smoking jacket!


9 posted on 04/04/2012 2:33:06 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: marktwain
He was told, “Dude I think you just got hit by a stray bullet. I said there's no way, so I looked down at my shirt and I saw a hole with a little bit of smoke coming out”. Might have a cracked sternum.

Bravo. Sierra.

10 posted on 04/04/2012 2:36:57 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All
The bullet was .223 caliber:

Whether what whizzed by the two employees golfing at the 15th hole on Monday was definitely a bullet is one thing but there's no doubt a stray .223-caliber round had to be removed from Flores’ sternum.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2868186/posts

11 posted on 04/04/2012 2:37:18 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Notice the Hispanic name...

This is a rasssicsst bullett!!!

We should OUTLAW the white race...and guns! Yeah, guns too!
Except for the ones we use in Fast and Furious...And Republicans - outlaw them! And especially the Tea Party - they’re too old to party anyway...not like the Occupy Party, who party and party when they’re not advocating violent overthrow of society...

Gosh! Progressive solutions are SOOOOOOOO easy to predict and emulate. If I ever have a lobotomy, I think I’ll turn Progressive too!

Please no responses...just a rant.


12 posted on 04/04/2012 2:37:26 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: null and void
No kidding. I remember seeing some reality show years ago. This guy's wife stuck him in the heart with a chef's knife. They showed him being wheeled into the emergency room, knife sticking out of his chest, and you could see the knife moving up and down with each heartbeat.

He lived. Never heard if he made up with the wifey, though.

13 posted on 04/04/2012 2:38:27 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: marktwain

“He described how he could see the large bullet sticking out of his chest and the decision he was forced to make.”

What kind of bullet is that? I mean that sentence makes it sound as if the bullet was 2 or 3 inches long. I mean I could understand ‘dig’ out the bullet. But ‘pull’ it out? It’s only half way in and it just stays there? Did he get shot with a dart from a blowgun?

Please tell me this reporter isn’t stupid enough to buy this line of BS because because she thinks a fired bullet includes the damn shell and everthing. I’ve have actually known people that were so dumb they didn’t even realize only little front part comes out the barrel when a gun goes ‘bang’. Please tell me she didn’t just make up this little insight because she thought it would be exciting, not realizing how little she understands firearms.


14 posted on 04/04/2012 2:38:43 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: marktwain

“there’s no doubt a stray .223-caliber round “

I have doubts. We do not know if this clown set this up in other ways just to get the range shut down.


15 posted on 04/04/2012 2:39:15 PM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: marktwain
Man surgery kit:

And of course:


16 posted on 04/04/2012 2:41:00 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: marktwain

I spent a long time taking care of trauma patients including many, many gunshot wounds. The notion of “removing the bullet” is pretty much a Hollywood notion only. You are NOT going to get “lead poisoning” from a retained bullet and many, many patients are walking around with all sorts of bullets in various parts of their bodies. The cases where removing a bullet is recommended basically are

1. In a blood vessel - this is quite rare.
2. In a joint space - here you CAN get effects from lead.
3. If it’s sticking through the skin - you do this electively at a later date in the outpatient clinic.

Aside from these cases “removing the bullet” comes from the movies and not from real life.


17 posted on 04/04/2012 2:45:46 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All

M16/A2 shoots a 5.56mm/.223 cartridge:

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Describe the ranges for the M16/A2 Rifle.

* Maximum Range - 3,600 meters

* Max Effective Range for a Point Target - 550 meters

* Max Effective Range for an Area Target - 800 meters

http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_board_study_guide_topics/m16a2/m16a2-study-guide.shtml


18 posted on 04/04/2012 2:50:38 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Read on another post that it was a .223.


19 posted on 04/04/2012 2:53:32 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: marktwain

Thus, the US Coast Guard’s firearm safety rule #4: Know your target and what is beyond it.
An M16 5.56 round goes a long way.


20 posted on 04/04/2012 3:06:53 PM PDT by Anoreth (It's not stupid, it's advanced!)
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To: null and void
General rule of thumb: If something is sticking in you, don’t pull it out! It could be like removing the cork from an artery...

That's the reason Texas prisons don't serve bone-in pork chops anymore. One prisoner stabbed another in the chest with a bone. The guard said not to pull it out but the guy did and died within seconds.

21 posted on 04/04/2012 3:44:12 PM PDT by bgill
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To: marktwain

22 posted on 04/04/2012 4:10:31 PM PDT by magslinger (If I wanted to vote for a Commie I would vote for Obammie. He has a chance of winning.)
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To: null and void

Not on the surface level of your chest skin. No arteries there.


23 posted on 04/04/2012 5:24:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: freedumb2003

No duct tape or crazy glue???


24 posted on 04/04/2012 5:32:55 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1170 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Secret Agent Man

That’s why it’s a general rule. In this case we both woulda pulled it and finished the back 9.


25 posted on 04/04/2012 5:35:29 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1170 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: marktwain

So what do the rules of golf say? Does he have to play the shot over again when shot during taking a swing? Or does he just play out as long as the bullet is protruding and smoking?

If he is already smoking from the bullet, can he also have a cigar and smoke while playing?

Should the foursome behind play through, or duck?


26 posted on 04/04/2012 9:15:26 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: gaijin; All

From Decal:

Go to the range’s website to read their side of this - it won’t make pleasant reading for pro-2A types, but nobody who’s lived in SA since Chairman Julian got elected mayor will be much surprised (”Rifle Range Legal Action” under the Home link).

http://aplacetoshoot.com/


27 posted on 04/05/2012 4:50:12 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“He described how he could see the large bullet sticking out of his chest”

“there’s no doubt a stray .223-caliber round had to be removed from Flores’ sternum”

Yea, those .223 rounds are massive! I’m surprised he could still stand, due to the sheer weight of all that grainage in his chest.....


28 posted on 04/05/2012 7:19:41 AM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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