Skip to comments.Senate votes to kill long-gun registry(Canada)
Posted on 04/04/2012 5:44:35 PM PDT by marktwain
OTTAWA The Conservative government vowed during the 2011 election to eliminate the long-gun registry.
On Wednesday evening the bill to officially end the registry Bill C-19 had its final vote in the Senate, leaving only a signature from the Governor General needed to officially kill the registry.
By a vote of 50-27, senators approved Bill C-19, marking the last political hurdle needed to kill the registry.
A few Liberals rose to vote in favour of C-19, including Senator Charlie Watt and Senator Lillian Eva Dyck. Each received applause from the Tory benches when they had their names called during the vote.
Senator Anne Cools, who sits as an independent member of the Senate, also received applause when she voted and a few jabs from the Liberal benches, where she sits.
"It's called democracy," she said during the vote.
There was no such applause for Tory Senator Elaine McCoy, who voted against the bill.
The vote was quieter than the one that took place last month when the C-19 passed its final vote in the House of Commons. There, the public gallery was packed with onlookers. On Wednesday, five people sat in the public gallery of the Senate to watch the vote.
Watching the vote on the floor of the Senate was Conservative MP Candice Hoeppner who had originally pushed to end the registry
"We are all counting the hours until the moment comes when law-abiding Canadians will no longer have to register their long guns," Hoeppner said earlier in the day in the Commons.
"We are grateful that we are going to be able to follow through on our commitment and end the long-gun registry once and for all."
The federal law will end the requirement for lawful gun owners to register their long guns, and it relaxes rules around selling or transferring guns that last point being a point of concern for Liberal senators when they reviewed the bill at the committee stage.
Gun licences for individuals will still be required, and the registry for restricted and prohibited firearms such as handguns will be maintained.
Gun control has been ferociously debated in Canada for decades, particularly since the Ecole Polytechnique massacre of 1989, when a gunman shot and killed 14 women with a rifle. That prompted the Liberal government of Jean Chretien to tighten gun controls and create Canada's first mandatory long-gun registry in 1995.
But the battle over the long-gun registry is not over. On Tuesday, Quebec Justice Minister Jean-Marc Fournier announced he would challenge in Quebec Superior Court the constitutionality of Bill C-19.
The Quebec government has asked repeatedly that records on Quebec residents be transferred to the province.
Quebec's legal proceeding will start once the bill receives Royal Assent. Fournier said filing now is a warning to the federal government that Quebec plans to block destruction of the records.
I lucked out and was able to purchase an 1833 Hall’s Rifle that was issued to the Confederate Troops at Corinth, Ms, because of the long gun registry in Canada. The previous owner didn’t wish to pay the expenses to store the antique (the government did not differentiate between antique long arms and modern ones) and register it. Sad. Its doubled in value since my purchase.
“leaving only a signature from the Governor General needed to officially kill the registry.”
Note that the Governor General is the representative of Queen Elizabeth II.
This does not mean much for US Citizens going to Canada or to Alaska.
Check the Canadian websites on gun regulations. The best is for an American going to Canada to take the courses and get the (Canadian) Possession and Acquisition card. Be sure to take both courses: the regular, and the one for restricted (handguns). Then you do not have to pay the $25 fee when bringing a long gun to Canada, and you can actually bring a pistol into Canada if you laboriously follow the rules. First, you need that Possession and Acquisition card with the little notation on the back saying that it includes restricted firearms. Second, the handgun must be registered in Canada (but the good news is that you can usually do this on line from the States.) To be registered, it must have a barrel longer than 105 mm and meet other restrictions (such as magazine limited to 10 rounds). Third, you must belong to a recognized Canadian gun club. Fourth, when you get to the border you must have obtained a PTT (permission to transport) to take the gun to where you will be living, with no side trips.
I have done this twice. It causes great excitement at the border crossing, because it is not done often. Many agents have never seen this happen, and you may have to help them understand the rules, which means that you should be sure that you know the rules yourself, and have your handgun packed properly, and all the paperwork in order.
It all may sound as if it is not worth the effort, but I think that it is, if you will be visiting for a while, and enjoy a weekly shoot. This may, after all, be the only international border where an ordinary person can do this legally. You certainly can’t do this on our southern border, or anywhere else that I know of. I think that it is nice to exercise even this restricted right, just to keep it alive, and to demonstrate that it causes no harm.
The bad thing is that the permission to transport is good for only a straight trip from border to dwelling. It does not allow for casual traveling around. So if you are going to Alaska, it could work from one border to the next, but only with a Canadian-approved, registered pistol, and that means no stopping. I have never tried that. It is possible that if you planned ahead, the Canadian authorities might give you a break somehow.
I know of Canadians who go to Florida in the winter, and take a pistol with them, legally. When they get to the US border, they can travel the rest of the way rather freely, as long as they follow our rules.
When you take the Canadian gun courses to get your Possession and Acquisition card, you will note that nowhere do they ask if you are a Canadian citizen, because you don’t have to be one to get that vital document. In that respect alone, the Canadian rules are easier than ours.
Thank you for this thoughtful and informative post.
It is close to what I researched a couple of years ago when I made a trip to Alaska.
Do you still have to take the firearms course in Canada? I might have time to do so. I am interested in following the advise that you offer.
Also, the exam can be challenged....
Wonder if they can account for every backup tape ever taken of this system...
Did many Candians actually grab their ankles and register their guns??
Some did, but there was massive resistance to the registry. That is a major reason why it was finally repealed.
Canadian gun owners can serve as an example for all of us. They risked a lot to defy the Registry. They registered nail guns, squirt guns, caulk guns, and staplers. They registered bogus guns in politicians names. They refused to register their firearms and lobbied their provinces to oppose the law. Provincial officials called the law void and refused to enforce it.
Then the courageous Canadians worked tirelessly to repeal the law. They voted out anti-gun politicians and voted in people who promised to repeal the law. They did this for decades, finally getting enough people who had promised this to get the law repealed.
I have a great deal of respect for the Canadian resistance that eliminated the gun registry.
Canada seems to be going in the right direction while we pursue communism and Kenya ism
I exaggerated slightly. It did not take decades, only 17 years.
Thanks for your reply - - very encouraging.
And, congratulations to our brothers (and sisters) to the north.
Good news! Registry as a proven failure to which we Americans can point - not that that means much. They keep trying to establish a socialist utopia.