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George Zimmermanís Father Tells Hannity Trayvon Martin Followed And Attacked His Son
Mediaite ^ | April 4, 2012 | Frances Martel

Posted on 04/04/2012 8:04:09 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

George Zimmerman‘s father is still in hiding after the national media firestorm that began when his son shot Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, but he spoke out tonight on Hannity, explaining behind a veil of anonymity his son’s side of the story and insisting Zimmerman acted in self-defense. Zimmerman appeared alongside his son’s lawyers, Craig Sonner and Hal Uhrig, and argued Zimmerman did not follow Martin and only shot after he found his life in imminent danger.

Host Sean Hannity asked the elder Zimmerman to relate the story of how his son ran into Trayvon Martin. “He had been texting his sister and said he was going to the grocery store,” Zimmerman narrated, “he saw somebody that did not live in the community wandering behind some town homes,” explaining that the town “has had a lot of problems with burglaries.” Zimmerman confirmed to Hannity that his son tutored minority children and had defended a minority child hit by a car in the neighborhood and accused Martin of following Zimmerman to a street corner. “Trayvon came from that area where the sidewalks meet, asked my son whether he had a problem… he said no, and Martin said, ‘well, you do now.’”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; hannity; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman

1 posted on 04/04/2012 8:04:15 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Media is culpable in any injustice that befalls the Zimmerman family.


2 posted on 04/04/2012 8:06:19 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Gene Eric
The Media is culpable in any injustice that befalls the Zimmerman family.

With that 911 editing job, NBC is going to have to pay out millions in a "False Light" defamation lawsuit. That was deliberate and despicable.

3 posted on 04/04/2012 8:14:18 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Gene Eric

Let us not forget Barr, that camera succubus who threatened to show her miserible flesh at the door of these people.


4 posted on 04/04/2012 8:14:54 PM PDT by Joshua Marcus
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Zimmerman’s side of the story becomes pretty convincing when you hear the entire tape - another section the MSM conveniently forgot was that when the dispatcher told Zimmerman they didn’t need him to follow the suspect, he immediately replied “OK”, as though he was going to break off his involvement - this attempt of the ‘rats to stir up their black base in preparation for the election could blow up in their faces.....


5 posted on 04/04/2012 8:51:46 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Free ThinkerNY

6 posted on 04/04/2012 8:55:09 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Zimmerman: “It’s raining and this guy is just walking around and looking about”
[snip]
Stanford police: “Just let me know if this guy does anything else”

Zimmerman: “Ok”

if Trayvon was traveling straight from the 7-11 where he was strictly there to buy a soda and candy and then was going straight home, why was he ‘just walking around looking about’ for a long enough time that Zimmerman thought it was suspicious? (note: according to the girlfriend, Trayvon did not have his hoodie on at this time)

Zimmerman’s father’s statement that Trayvon was running collaberates with the unknown girlfriend that was allegedly on the phone and telling Trayvon to run. Trayvon ran after he pulled his hoodie up.

Zimmerman is waiting on the police he’s already called, and he’s tapped by Trayvon. How did Trayvon get thisclose to Zimmerman, unless he retraced his steps, and why would he do that, when the safety of the dad’s girlfriend’s apartment was reachable by Trayvon had he chosen to go there?

How many times had Trayvon stayed with dad’s girlfriend, and how well did Trayvon’s stepbrother and dad’s girlfriend mom, know Zimmerman? Did Trayvon already know who Zimmerman was?


7 posted on 04/04/2012 9:54:58 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum
Stanford police: “Just let me know if this guy does anything else”

Everyone quotes the police as telling him that he didn't have to follow Martin. What about this, where the police told him to watch and let them know if Martin did anything other than looking about?

The police were using Zimmerman as their lookout - they say it right here.

8 posted on 04/04/2012 11:58:42 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

NSFW - Zimmerman said “cold” not “coons”.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2012/04/05/ac-tuchman-zimmerman-audio-enhanced.cnn


9 posted on 04/05/2012 12:17:27 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6; maggief; kristinn; Cboldt; rolling_stone; little jeremiah

Link to CNN: Cold not coons


10 posted on 04/05/2012 1:20:40 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama; ltc8k6; maggief; kristinn; rolling_stone; little jeremiah
Anderson Cooper (Wolf Blitzer sitting in): April 4, 2012 - 22:00

CHERYL BROWN, MOTHER OF WITNESS: The lead investigator from the Sanford Police Department [Serino] stood in my family room and told me, this was absolutely not self-defense, and they needed to prove it. He told me, and I'm paraphrasing this quote, but read between the lines. There's some stereotyping going on here. ...

TUCHMAN: It sounds like -- and we wanted to leave it up to the viewer -- but it sounds like we're hearing the swear word at first and then the word cold. And the reason some say that would be relevant is because it was unseasonably cold in Florida that night and raining. So that is what some supporters of Zimmerman are saying, that that would make sense if he was saying the word cold. But that is what it sounds like to you?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It does to me. And I have not heard this.

TUCHMAN: First time you have heard it?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

Man, reading the transcript, Blitzer is so vapid.

EARLY START WITH ASHLEIGH BANFIELD AND ZORAIDA SAMBOLIN - April 4 - also mentions CNN's walkback of accusing Zimmerman of uttering "fscking coons."

11 posted on 04/05/2012 3:45:56 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Note the dispatchers comment immediatly following:

F—Cold

Are you (outside) following him?

Yes

We don’t need you to do that (Stay in and stay warm)

(Two can fill in the blanks.....)


12 posted on 04/05/2012 6:30:27 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Cboldt

Was Lt Sereno the partner of the Lt whose son Zimmerman was organizing the black community against? Haven’t been able to find that officers position on the force.

Sereno was supposidly (two articles from black bloggers) the same officer that investigated that incident, but was he?


13 posted on 04/05/2012 6:34:53 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama
-- Was Lt Sereno the partner of the Lt whose son Zimmerman was organizing the black community against? --

I don't know. I've read articles that say so. At this point, I think the statement "Serino wanted to arrest Zimmerman on 26/27 February" is false. Giving Serino the benefit of the doubt, and assuming he is irritated that Zimmerman was agitating the public against the police line on a different case, accusing somebody of manslaughter (without any supporting evidence) as a means of "getting even" goes way too far.

14 posted on 04/05/2012 6:48:47 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: hoosiermama
I'm going to guess that Serino wasn't even tangentially involved in the Collison case. The event does not sound like a major crime that requires follow-up investigation.

The Trayvon Martin Killing, Explained | Mother Jones | Adam Weinstein | Mar. 18, 2012

Perhaps the most significant incident occurred in late 2010: Justin Collison, the son of a Sanford PD lieutenant, sucker-punched a homeless black man outside a bar, and officers on the scene released Collison without charges. He eventually surrendered after video of the incident materialized online. The police chief at the time was ultimately forced into retirement. "Bottom line, we didn't do our job that night," a Police Department representative told WFTV of the incident. The TV station later learned that the Sanford patrol sergeant in charge on the night of Collison's assault, Anthony Raimondo, was also the first supervisor on the scene of Trayvon Martin's shooting death.

Finding that the supervisor, Raimondo, is the same is a ho-hum finding.

From the WFTV link (and there are links from there to earlier stories, READ THEM) ...

Officers on scene never handcuffed [Collison] or even patted him down. They said accounts of the fight were conflicting. ...

Now seven officers, including a sergeant and a lieutenant, will face an internal review for not making an arrest after suspicion of a felony.

So, I looked for reports relating to a Collison internal investigation. Here's one:

Sanford cops who didn't arrest officer's son cleared - Orlando Sentinel - March 4, 2011

The Seminole County Sheriff's Office conducted an investigation into how Sanford police handled the case. It looked at the involvement of 11 officers, including then-Chief Brian Tooley.

The report shows that two officers were on the verge of arresting Collison that night until Sgt. Anthony Raimondo said otherwise.

Other information in the report:

One of the first officers at the scene was Zachary Glenn, who ordered Collison to sit in the back of a patrol car. Collison then told him he was the son of Sanford police Lt. Chris Collison, Glenn told the internal-affairs investigator.

Collison phoned his father, and his father called Raimondo. Lt. Collison did not ask for special treatment, Raimondo said.

Raimondo made the no-arrest decision after talking to watch commander Lt. Mike Taylor, who also was at the scene. Both men said that was because the man who was knocked out, Sherman Ware, did not give police a sworn statement.

I haven't obtained it, but here is a link to a scribd archive of the Administrative Investigation - Justin Collison Case.
15 posted on 04/05/2012 7:18:05 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Absolutely.

But the truth (all the truth) needs to come out.

As we’ve said before it still could have been one side of good cop/bad cop.


16 posted on 04/05/2012 7:18:55 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Cboldt

Absolutely.

But the truth (all the truth) needs to come out.

As we’ve said before it still could have been one side of good cop/bad cop.


17 posted on 04/05/2012 7:19:15 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama
A few thoughts.

It seems the pressure on the police to address the Collison incident came from many angles, and I figure Zimmerman was pissant in the scheme of things.

If you want to find Serino biased against Zimmerman (with the bias relating to the Collison incident), then you need to find out the relationship between Raimondo and Serino. Another (fantasy) possibility is that Raimondo has some sort of power over Serino, as a friend or superior; and that (assuming he is overboard in his action against Zimmerman) Serino is acting at the behest or Raimondo.

Conspiracy theories are great fun, being unbound by a need to connect all the dots. Both cops are in the same police department, that's enough of a connection.

18 posted on 04/05/2012 7:23:57 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

who is the lead investigator. Does he have an agenda?


19 posted on 04/05/2012 7:24:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: hoosiermama
The officers whom Zimmerman targeted for accountability in the Sherman Ware incident were all cleared by the Seminole County Sheriff's investigation, despite Zimmerman's repeated accusations that police gave kid-glove treatment to a white officer's son who beat a defenseless, homeless black man.

But 14 months later, at least two of the same officers investigated the shooting death of Trayvon Martin -- and cleared Zimmerman -- even though his voice was the loudest calling for their punishment in the Ware case.

One of those officers was Timothy Smith. According to a police incident report from the scene of the Feb. 26 shooting, Officer Smith handcuffed Zimmerman and transported him to the police station. Another was Sergeant Anthony Raimondo, who was on scene with Smith and other local officers.

George Zimmerman | Demanded Police Officer Discipline | The Daily Caller - Matthew Boyle - April 4, 2012

20 posted on 04/05/2012 7:30:08 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

ALaya, Ricardo and Tim Smith were the first two who responded to the Martin incident.

Wagner,Robertson,McCoy, Mead were the officers listed as being on site.

Taylor call “Major crime scene investiators”

No mention of Raimondo


21 posted on 04/05/2012 7:31:17 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: longtermmemmory
-- who is the lead investigator. Does he have an agenda? --

The lead investigator in the Zimmerman/Martin case was Chris Serino.

Whether or not he has a bias against Zimmerman, based on Zimmerman's advocacy in the Collison/War case is what the links, blockquotes, and speculation aim to inform.

At this point, I don't believe that Serino advocated to arrest Zimmerman on Feb 26/27. That claim first surfaced on March 27, via Matt Gutman of ABC. That claim is contradicted by earlier reports, directly attributed to Serino, where he found no evidence to contradict Zimmerman's story. There is a story from the mother of the 13 y/o witness, Brown, IIRC, where she claims Serino told her that he wanted to catch Zimmerman in a lie, and "read [racial stereotyping] between the lines."

22 posted on 04/05/2012 7:36:01 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: hoosiermama
-- No mention of Raimondo --

He's behind the desk, and the news stories attribute the "no arrest" decision of Collison to Raimondo.

I don't see Serino anywhere in the news accounts; I have not read the official Collison report.

23 posted on 04/05/2012 7:38:20 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

He was NOT one of the officers investigated:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/87868462/2011-Feb-23-Seminole-County-Sheriff-s-Office-Administrative-Investigation


24 posted on 04/05/2012 7:47:06 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama
-- [Raimondo] was NOT one of the officers investigated --

I believe you. But he is named in news accounts as nixing the on-scene arrest. Just saying, if you want to connect Serino to some animus based on the Collison case, the wider you cast your suspicion, the more likely you'll find a connection that involves Serino and/or Zimmerman.

Another claim is going to be that Raimondo nixed Zimmerman's arrest, just like he nixed Collison's, all out of racial bias.

25 posted on 04/05/2012 7:50:25 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Free ThinkerNY
George Zimmerman‘s father is still in hiding after the national media firestorm that began when his son shot Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, but he spoke out tonight on Hannity, explaining behind a veil of anonymity his son’s side of the story and insisting Zimmerman acted in self-defense.

I'm going to reveal the identity of the anonymous source. It is George Zimmerman's father.

26 posted on 04/05/2012 7:57:01 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Cboldt

IMO it’s all BS. Good cop/bad cop would not be possible if police were not allowed to stretch the story in order to glean more information. The premise “I’m on your side” can go a far way in getting someone to open up”

So an officer telling a person even remotely involved “read between the lines” is nothing more than a manipulation to see what that individual knows.


27 posted on 04/05/2012 7:57:31 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Intolerant in NJ
"another section the MSM conveniently forgot was that when the dispatcher told Zimmerman they didn’t need him to follow the suspect, he immediately replied “OK”, as though he was going to break off his involvement "

And that is further evidenced by wind noise from Zimmerman's phone that stops almost immediately after the operator saying that.

Also important to note that prior to that, the operator twice tells Zimmerman to "Just let us know if he does anything else". No wonder Zimmerman started to follow Martin.

28 posted on 04/05/2012 8:03:56 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: hoosiermama
-- So an officer telling a person even remotely involved "read between the lines" is nothing more than a manipulation to see what that individual knows. --

Could be. He might be trying to put Brown at ease so she'll talk more. He might be tempting her to lie, etc. I'm sure he was looking for witnesses who could say the words heard during the fight, and he might have just been relating that if there's any issue coming from Zimmerman, it doesn't appear on the record (no witness heard any racial stereotyping from Zimmerman).

Anyway, I added that remark in an attempt to be thorough in disclosing what has been reported about Serino's attitude and remarks. He also said something to Tracy Martin on Feb 27 along the lines of trying to catch Zimmerman in a lie. So, here's Serino, telling Tracy that he's the lead investigator into Trayvon's death - of course he's going to try to give assurance to Tracy that he (Serino) isn't just accepting Zimmerman's story - he's paid to be a skeptic and rational thinker.

29 posted on 04/05/2012 8:06:51 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Exactly.
I’m on your side, relax, vague phrase that opens the person being interviewed to reveal information.

Remember that one of the fathers of the two who hammered the fifty year old was involved in a black racists group, maybe he just wanted to know Tracy Martin’s racial opinions and that was a way to start the conversation.


30 posted on 04/05/2012 8:13:08 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Cboldt
...accusing somebody of manslaughter (without any supporting evidence) as a means of "getting even" goes way too far. "

That it quite rational thinking. Possibly a little too generously rational. It may be that this detective(?) is a little jaded and bitter from his years on the force. I mean, we know that kind accusation is extreme, but to him....
Just sayin'.

31 posted on 04/05/2012 8:16:57 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: hoosiermama
"The premise “I’m on your side” can go a far way in getting someone to open up”

Good point.

32 posted on 04/05/2012 8:22:22 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward
-- It may be that this detective(?) is a little jaded and bitter from his years on the force. I mean, we know that kind accusation is extreme, but to him... --

He's going to have to sell his case first to a prosecutor, then, if there is a trial, to the jury. If he has ZERO evidence, do you think he's going to take advantage of the situation?

It'd be different if there was some evidence that contradicted Zimmerman's account. Serino has a reputation among his peers, the community, and the state (prosecuting) attorney. I don't think he'd hang his butt that far out over the line, using nothing but speculation void of evidence to support a charge of manslaughter.

I say "Free the Serino Affidavit!" - I think that document is another Matt Gutman fiction.

33 posted on 04/05/2012 8:25:11 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

I have not seen any reports from Matt Gutman in a couple days. Hoping he’s been pulled off the story.


34 posted on 04/05/2012 8:45:08 AM PDT by ironman
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To: ironman
-- I have not seen any reports from Matt Gutman in a couple days. Hoping he's been pulled off the story. --

The lies are being shot down faster than he can manufacture them. Well, sort of shot down - the drive-by media is doing a darned good job of misinforming the public.

Things will stir up again when Corey renders her decision. Groundwork has been laid already, that she is in the police department's pocket and has racial bias herself.

35 posted on 04/05/2012 8:52:06 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Not knowing a thing about the man, I agree you’re probably right. Even if he has some axe to grind, it’s not worth ruining a career over.

Making some rather broad tailored assertions while interviewing witnesses is SOP.

So far everything supports Zimmerman’s account. His Attorneys sounded very convincing last night on Hannity.


36 posted on 04/05/2012 9:02:42 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: ironman; Cboldt

Has Matt taken a vacation? Been given a couple days off for his efforts?


37 posted on 04/05/2012 9:03:45 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: moehoward

Unfortunately the people who need to be informed probably don’t watch Hannity.

Hope they’re making a list of people to sue.


38 posted on 04/05/2012 9:06:53 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama
-- Has Matt taken a vacation? Been given a couple days off for his efforts? --

On a scale of 1-10, media attention on this story went from about an "8" early this week (the grainy video and the audio experts coming out to condemn Zimmerman), to about "1", "2" at the most, instantly.

The falsehoods are out there, and they'll keep working without any more pushing. The last "big" story was the NBC apology. Then all went quiet.

If they stop talking about it, there isn't any material to call them out on - and at the same time, the false story isn't losing any traction with the general public.

39 posted on 04/05/2012 9:13:16 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: hoosiermama

I could be way off base on this. Unlike the Martin camp, I am not getting the impression these guys are out for damages, no matter how well deserved.


40 posted on 04/05/2012 9:23:40 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Cboldt
The officers whom Zimmerman targeted for accountability in the Sherman Ware incident were all cleared by the Seminole County Sheriff's investigation, despite Zimmerman's repeated accusations that police gave kid-glove treatment to a white officer's son who beat a defenseless, homeless black man.

But 14 months later, at least two of the same officers investigated the shooting death of Trayvon Martin -- and cleared Zimmerman -- even though his voice was the loudest calling for their punishment in the Ware case.

What lovely irony!

Remember, before all this started, George Zimmerman was a registered Donkee. Apparently, of the same stripe as those now calling for his lynching.

41 posted on 04/05/2012 9:24:32 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Cboldt; maggief; kristinn; ironman; Danae; LucyT; STARWISE; onyx; Diogenesis; Liz
Your saying it's “Petty hard to unspread warm butter on hot toast?”

IMO the only reason they've gone quiet is to not give the lawyers more fuel for the law suits.

Freepers have the material, links, skills (and connections) to publish some very damning material against the MSM and individuals in it who contributed to this chaos. That material should be organized and repeated by similar news releases or emailed to people like Hannity and Rush. IMO this manipulation by BO and his SOBs (Sons of Barack) is just as much an attempt to manipulate the election as his hidden background. We may not have the access to his records, but we sure can stop this malarkey by flooding what connections we have with the truth.

42 posted on 04/05/2012 9:37:59 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This interview and the whole Zimmerman/Trayvon thing have reminded me why I don’t like Hannity. Last night, he was very solicitous towards Zimmerman’s father, very gravely eager to make sure the man had his say. He asked the father about the media’s “rush to judgment.” And yet, when this story broke, Hannity was RIGHT THERE ON BOARD with the rest of the media. I remember watching him one night saying, in that smug tone of his, that it certainly looked like Zimmerman was guilty, and condemning him for not listening to the 911 operator. (Never mind that Zimmerman wasn’t legally obligated to do so). But now, Hannity is hoping no one recalls his earlier position.


43 posted on 04/05/2012 10:14:07 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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