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Bangalore firms innovate to avoid being 'Bangalored'
Hindustan times ^ | 5 April 2012 | Reuters

Posted on 04/05/2012 1:21:05 AM PDT by Cronos

Rajesh Rao is among a handful of Indian entrepreneurs who may prevent the country's software industry from getting "Bangalored".

The 41-year-old self-confessed geek runs Dhruva, a firm that sells content and services to global online game companies from a bungalow in a crowded suburb of a city that has come to embody outsourcing and the transfer of jobs from the West.

But plain vanilla outsourcing - help desks and back office operations - is finding cheaper locations abroad. India's software industry has discovered it needs to move up the value chain or enter niche areas like gaming to continue growing.

Rao, a dapper man with a soul patch beard, was drawn to multimedia computing while at university and set up his own firm.

He progressed to video gaming and says he lucked into a sector that is now realising its potential. It is less than a $500 million business in India - and $50 billion worldwide and growing.

"Whenever something transcends from a geek activity to an everyday activity, that's when you can say that this is now going to become mainstream," Rao said at his unpretentious headquarters set amid shops, a temple, a women's college and cheek-by-jowl homes.

As gaming scales up, the advantages of outsourcing are becoming apparent to the firms on the US West Coast that dominate the sector. Jobs that can cost up to $12,000-$15,000 per man-month there can be outsourced to companies in India like Dhruva for about $4,000-$5,000.

"The gaming industry began to discover the benefits of outsourcing, and we were already there, and so we started seeing a huge upswing in business," Rao said, speaking in a new office, set up as he expands staff.

Many of the desks are unoccupied and cabling has yet to be completed.

"We are now beginning to see that big wave. Pretty much the floodgates are opening."

San Francisco-based Zynga, which started off games like FarmVille and Mafia Wars on Facebook, has also bet on Bangalore, setting up an office and a creative studio, the first outside the United States, with over 200 employees.

Zynga chief technology officer Cadir Lee said the city was attractive because it combined experience and talent.

"I see Bangalore going through a pyramid, where you started with lower-value functions like call centre work, then it moved up to BPO (business process outsourcing) and more strategic IT projects, but still very directed work," he said in a telephone interview.

"At the top of that is product development. That is just getting critical mass in Bangalore."

The upgrade
India's IT industry, with Bangalore firms forming the largest component, is now worth an annual $100 billion and growing 14% per year, one of the few bright spots in an economy blighted by policy stagnation and political instability.

But growth has tapered off from 20 plus percent a few years ago. Rising wages, uneven infrastructure and a talent pool that doesn't fully meet requirements are other worrying factors.

Technology and special skill-sets are the answer, analysts say. Indian companies are now into engineering services, alternative business models and bio-technology as well as animation and gaming. Many will offer increased revenue in addition to cost savings.

"Gaming, product development, the D of R&D (research and development), applied research, engineering and design - you can see all forms of these emerging in India," said Noshir Kaka, managing director of McKinsey and Co's India operations.

"We are going to see a whole range of alternative business models that are going to emerge. You are going to see companies that are going to put together a proprietary platform with some processing capability, added to that software development and data and analytics and give it as a combined offering. You start changing the business value proposition to a client."

Around the turn of the century, the confluence of better communications and fibre-optic networks, a pool of software talent and government incentives for the IT industry made Bangalore the global hub of outsourcing.

It started mostly as a low-cost way of dealing with issues like the Y2K bug, but it then fundamentally began to alter international business. Companies in the West began to relocate hundreds of thousands of jobs to India.

In 2008 alone, companies in the United States and Europe saved over $20 billion by outsourcing services to India, according to a McKinsey report.

Once called a pensioners' paradise, a favoured retirement spot for army and government officers, Bangalore became one of only two cities in the world to have a verb derived from its name (the other is Shanghai). Getting Bangalored came to mean losing a job to outsourcing.

Hyderabad, a rival outsourcing-focused city 550 km to the north, began to be called "Cyberabad".

But as incomes rose, low-value jobs like call centres and help desks began to make the transition to even cheaper locations like the Philippines and Eastern Europe.

Part of the answer, says BVR. Mohan Reddy, the founder of Hyderabad-based engineering services firm Infotech, is a "leap-frog" in technology.

"So far this business has been very linear. As more technology, maturity and confidence come into this industry, you will certainly find people ... moving to the next plateau."

Infotech, with estimated revenue this year seen up 22 percent at $250 million, is among the most technically advanced firms India, providing services like computer-aided design for aircraft engines and digitalisation of drawings and maps.

"We do participate with our customers at this point of time," said Reddy in a phone interview.

"Though we are a services company, our engineers' names have started appearing in the list of patents."

Firms like Infosys, India's $6 billion outsourcing giant, are moving up the value chain in their own way and switching from traditional markets in the United States and Europe.

"We are looking at new areas like embedded systems, we have accelerated our consulting growth, we have focused on emerging markets much more," said founder NR Narayana Murthy, a legend in the industry.

"We have enhanced involvement in the digital economy; health care is a big area of opportunity," he said in an interview at the sprawling Infosys headquarters in Bangalore.

The talent pool
The limiting factor is a shortage of job-ready engineers, with companies willing to pay a premium for workers who have proved themselves in other IT firms. But that adds to costs and risks making companies uncompetitive, or doing to them what they have done to companies in the West.

Infosys solves the problem by trawling universities for graduates and then training them for up to eight months. Talent shops, where industry-ready skills are taught, have emerged elsewhere.

"From so-called bodyshopping in the software industry in the 80s and 90s, now we have come to a stage where complete R&D outsourcing is happening," said JA Chowdary, who runs Talent Sprint, a company that provides training to IT professionals.

"This calls for a huge jump in quality manpower. Many engineering colleges are able to produce students, but Nasscom (National Association of Software and Services Companies) says only 20% are employable. So there's a big shortfall."

Other estimates say only about a quarter of the 770,000 engineering graduates each year are ready to join the workforce. Another quarter needs training and the rest will take on non-software jobs or remain unemployed.

Because the numbers are so huge, India's IT sector will continue to grow, albeit at a slower pace.

But Srini Raju, who runs the Peepul venture capital fund aimed at innovation and entrepreneurship skills to bolt on to talent and technology to make cutting-edge products themselves.

"There's no hunger," he said.

"I am not saying they are not hard-working. The sacrifice and hunger are not there.

"In the West, they would have slept in their office for a week together. Here at 5 o'clock in the evening they start getting phone calls. I am not saying this is right or wrong. That is the way this society is. India is not a country for innovation any time soon."

Raju said he had about $700 million invested in Indian companies, but mostly in service providers.

"I will not invest in innovation," he said.

"I will invest in do-ers. You can build businesses around do-ers. Around innovation, no. It's a lack of people who will do it."

Narayana Murthy at Infosys dismissed talk of a perennial lack of innovative talent and said India would one day produce an entrepreneur like Steve Jobs.

"It's impossible for me to predict what the Indian Steve Jobs will do," he said.

"But I am sure there will be one. Let's remember our story is still pretty young. Innovation will come."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bangalore; india; offshoring; outsourcing
interesting read
1 posted on 04/05/2012 1:21:14 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Thanks for posting.

Lots of thought provoking, interesting tidbits of information in the article that contradict many of the myths surrounding outsourcing the use of guest workers.

Off-shoring and guest workers are not employed because Americans cant’/won’t do these jobs but because replacing them enhances quarterly profits at the expense of morality, patriotism, national and economic security, and the ability to innovate. International corporations will continue to chase the cheapest labor with the least environmental restrictions until globally every one who works for a living is reduced to the status of a neo-slave at a subsistence level.

“...Jobs that can cost up to $12,000-$15,000 per man-month there can be outsourced to companies in India like Dhruva for about $4,000-$5,000.
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But as incomes [in India] rose, low-value jobs like call centres and help desks began to make the transition to even cheaper locations like the Philippines and Eastern Europe.
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Many engineering colleges [in India] are able to produce students, but Nasscom (National Association of Software and Services Companies) says only 20% are employable.
...
“I am not saying they [Indian workers] are not hard-working. The sacrifice and hunger are not there.
...
In the West, they would have slept in their office for a week together. Here at 5 o’clock in the evening they start getting phone calls. I am not saying this is right or wrong. That is the way this society is. India is not a country for innovation any time soon.
...
I will not invest in innovation,” he said.
...
I will invest in do-ers. You can build businesses around do-ers. Around innovation, no. It’s a lack of people [in India]who will do it. ...”


2 posted on 04/05/2012 6:10:13 AM PDT by khelus
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To: khelus
“Off-shoring and guest workers are not employed because Americans cant’/won’t do these jobs but because replacing them enhances quarterly profits at the expense of morality, patriotism, national and economic security, and the ability to innovate.”

I dont think there is any deliberate “replacing” of American workforce going on here. Fact is there is not much “replace”. Educated and skilled Indians and Chinese represent a huge pool of resource. And in a globalized world business will find a way to use this resource one way or another. It is inevitable. America's problem is there is that fresh graduates find it hard to compete an take and grab opportunities because there is a major disconnect between US universities and skills required in the industry. The cost of training a fresh grad and getting them up to speed with industry standards is far cheaper in India and China then the US. That's the reality. I don't patriotic or moral concerns have or should have any part to play in this.

“Many engineering colleges [in India] are able to produce students, but Nasscom (National Association of Software and Services Companies) says only 20% are employable.”

Its more or less the same in US, with the exception that for the industry its much cheaper to train in someone in India then here in US.

In the West, they would have slept in their office for a week together. Here at 5 o’clock in the evening they start getting phone calls. I am not saying this is right or wrong. That is the way this society is. India is not a country for innovation any time soon.”

Not all places in the US, people sleep in their offices and work 70-80 hours a week. Most places I have worked are far more laid back then India. People come in to work at 9 and leave by 3. And take vacation day off or work from home almost every other week. Ironically its is mostly the Indians on-site contractors working here in US work 60-70 hours a week.

I will invest in do-ers. You can build businesses around do-ers. Around innovation, no. It’s a lack of people [in India]who will do it. ...””

I dont see “innovators” and “do-ers” as mutually exclusive. And I dont quite see there being a lack of “do-ers” in India.

3 posted on 04/05/2012 8:08:52 AM PDT by ravager
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To: ravager
I dont think there is any deliberate “replacing” of American workforce going on here. Fact is there is not much “replace” ...

Contrary to what you 'think', skilled, experienced, proven talent is routinely and deliberately replaced by cheaper workers. Often the replaced worker's severance package is contingent upon training their cheaper replacements, both on shore and off shore. There never has been a shortage of skilled workers in the US, only shortage of workers who can get third world salaries, pay US taxes, and survive.

Your post reflects the the fact that Global Socialism has been very extremely clever in creating a story for the ‘left’ about economic, social, educational, sexual, and environmental ‘justice’, 'sustainability', 'consensus' and a story for the ‘right’ about ‘Free Trade’, 'comparative advantage', free movement of goods and people, open borders, jobs Americans can't/won't do, harmonizing global standards of living, compassionate amnesty, and short term profits with no reference to patriotism or morality.

Both stories lead to the same place - destruction of the American economy, national security, traditional culture, values and its pesky middle class under the tyranny of global communism.

International corporations will continue to chase the cheapest labor with the least environmental restrictions until globally every one who works for a living is reduced to the status of a neo-slave at a subsistence level. Free enterprise has been replaced by corporatism / crony capitalism / fascism.

Access to easy credit and cheap goods have hidden the loss of real income until recently.
4 posted on 04/05/2012 12:45:40 PM PDT by khelus
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To: khelus
“skilled, experienced, proven talent is routinely and deliberately replaced by cheaper workers.”

I speak out of experience. And you are entitled to your own opinion while I have mine. Cheap workers aren't necessarily unskilled or inexperienced. That is a huge misconception. I work with overseas workers on a daily basis. I even hire people to work in my projects. Lot of the overseas workers I have worked with in general have skills on par with Americans. Fact is India and China have huge pool of young population and a good number of them have acquired higher education in core engineering and science. This is an enormous human capital that business just cannot ignore. If not them, then their competitors will take advantage of it and wipe them out of competition. Fact is US just does not have this level of human capital (and now even financial capital). Not only US has far fewer younger population but even lesser number of American students graduate in core engineering and science. Business will always move where there is market and resources readily available. Its not some leftist/globalist design to destroy America but it is how business have always operated. You see that as workforce being “replaced” here in US, anotherway to see that is....businesses expanding in Asia and shrinking in US. India and China have the financial capital as well as human capital. US has either to offer. Never in human history were business ever driven by patriotism and morality. That just ever never happens. A lot of the factors playing to the advantage of India and China today was once enjoyed by the US for the last hundred years. US has blown away those advantages and is looking for scapegoats.

The rest of your post is just usual rhetoric that doesn't carry much substance.

5 posted on 04/05/2012 2:28:21 PM PDT by ravager
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To: ravager; All
I also speak from experience. I have REPEATEDLY seen experienced, skilled, up to date, proven professionals deliberately replaced by CHEAP brandy new rather ordinary graduates - off shore and 'guest workers'. In order to secure severance the replaced professionals had to train their replacements. The replacement was mandated by bean counters.

Your buy into the same fiction espoused by Obama that guest workers and off shoring do not take American jobs. In fact you have cleverly redefined the replacement of american workers as expansion over seas. Obama would be proud.

It has become a fact that once a professional in IT hit ~35 they are pronounced too old to hire. Their resumes are destined for the circular file. Ah another opportunity to expand overseas or take advantage of the global pool of human capital!

As regard STEM fields there is no shortage of qualified graduates in math or science. Report on math science education.

Contrary to the popular myth, there is no shortage of human capital in the US. Americans in IT are being replaced by people whose skills are quite ordinary. americans at all levels are being replaced by guest workers and off shoring.

What you conveniently dismiss as 'rhetoric' is the inevitable result of Globalism / Free Trade {the unfettered movement of capital, freed from all political, national and religious shackles); The inevitable result is the reason Karl Marx, Obama/s hero, promoted free trade.

Anyone who is interested, read Plank #45 of Communism's goals for the US, Free Trade, An Assault on America's Sovereignty
6 posted on 04/06/2012 4:48:49 AM PDT by khelus
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