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Romney opens lead in Santorum's backyard
Mitt Romney Leads In New Pennsylvania Poll ^ | 04/05/2012 | Doug Mataconis

Posted on 04/05/2012 6:49:16 AM PDT by Ocarterma

Two days after losing three more primaries, Rick Santorum appears to be in trouble in his home state:

Mitt Romney’s taken the lead in PPP’s newest poll of Rick Santorum’s home state of Pennsylvania. Romney has 42% to 37% for Santorum with Ron Paul at 9% and Newt Gingrich at 6%. The numbers represent a dramatic turnaround from when PPP polled the state a month ago. Romney’s gained 17 points, going from 25% to 42%. Meanwhile Santorum’s dropped 6 points from 43% to 37%, for an overall swing of 23 points in the last four weeks.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; 2012swingstates; election; pa2012; primary; romney; romneybots; santorum
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To: SoConPubbie
Comparing Romney to McCain is like comparing the Pinto to the Mustang II. Not worth the time.


241 posted on 04/06/2012 9:46:35 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: hinckley buzzard; napscoordinator; AmericanInTokyo; Antoninus; Lazlo in PA; cripplecreek; ...
232 posted on Fri Apr 06 2012 20:32:58 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by hinckley buzzard: “If he wins, he has the temperament to run things. When he said “I like firing people” he was saying something important about how he might approach reigning in wasteful gubbermint. His experience in “Vulture Capitalism” may look pretty good when applied against wretched bloated bureaucracies like the Departments of commerce/education/energy/agriculture. I'm a Newt supporter and have been, but the reality is what it is, it's time to face it and make the best of it.”

I agree that is actually one of the very few things where I think Romney's background shows he'll likely do something useful.

Cutting waste to make companies (and the Salt Lake City Olympics) viable seems to be something Romney is good at.

For me, however, abortion is a make-or-break issue. I've watched the video of Romney discussing his pro-choice views during the Massachusetts governor race. I'm originally from Michigan and I know more than I should about the Romney family history on this issue. Even if I believe Romney has changed his views and will be pro-life in his policies, I do not believe he can be trusted to pick Supreme Court nominees who, once they're confirmed and never again need to face a vote for the duration of their life, will remain consistently pro-life.

Unfortunately, we have a long and sad history of Republican presidents nominating people to the Supreme Court who turn out to be real problems once they're on the court for life. I do not believe Romney can be trusted with this responsibility.

Some will attack me for being a single-issue voter. I'm actually not — I'm a Romans 13 voter. The government has certain biblical obligations to protect its people and punish evildoers, and I'm just as adamant on the need for a strong national defense, honest justice, and similar issues as I am about abortion. However, there are few issues on which America is failing in its responsibilities as clearly as abortion. If government can't protect babies from being killed in their mother's womb, it is grotesquely failing in one of its key functions — protecting the lives of its people and upholding justice via the sword of the state to punish evildoers.

242 posted on 04/06/2012 10:47:56 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFSOOFPAhXo&feature=related


243 posted on 04/06/2012 10:57:09 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
I'm not trying to be tunnel-visioned, or intractably stubborn, or "taking my toys and going home". It's just that, over the past forty years, the trend has not been good. This is especially true for social conservatives, of whom the establishment demands their votes, but not their values; of whom they try to instill fear by warning that the other options are worse; or who delight in telling us that we have nowhere else to go.

Well, we no longer fear. The warned-against liberalism is now in our own party. We have been played.


Agreed. Let's not even look back over 40 years, let's go back to 1988.

In 1988 we got a moderate candidate because it was "his turn". He was not very conservative, and he gave us a more expensive government. In 1992, he also gave us Bill Clinton.

In 1996, again, another moderate candidate selected because it was "his turn". He gave us a second term of Bill Clinton.

In 2000, it was supposed to be McCain's turn, but George W. Bush had the money and right people backing him, so he jumped in line ahead of McCain. What did George W. Bush do? He proceeded to give us the most expensive, most powerful, most intrusive federal government in our nation's history (although Obama is trying to top him). Bush did this with a Republican Congress for several years of his time in office

In 2008, it was finally McCain's turn, and between him and Bush, they managed to give us Barack Obama.

Now here we are in 2012, and some folks think that because Romney has been running for the White House since 2005-2006 and because he has a lot of money backing him, that it's turn.

If Romney gets the nomination, he'll either give us a 2nd term of Obama, or if he gets in the White House (very unlikely), he will continue Obama and George W. Bush's trend of expanding the size, power, and cost of the federal government.

People who beat their heads against walls discover it feels pretty good when you stop beating your head against the wall. If Romney gets the nomination, I'm going to stop beating my head against a wall, or in this case, stop voting for folks just because they have an (R) next to their name. It's going to feel pretty good. The GOP has screwed me over too many times with the candidates it picks.
244 posted on 04/07/2012 1:21:02 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: All; SoConPubbie

Romney is saying that Rick is pro-”choice,” even though Rick and Karen are walking the walk.

Romney, and friends, are a lying smear machine.

Calling a talk show host in PA that is friendly to Rick, will help him, because a friendly talk show host will expand on our positive comments.


245 posted on 04/07/2012 9:44:20 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
[You really hate Santorum’s guts, don't you?]

No more than you “hate” Romney, actually not even close. I do not like Santorum due to his past record and his lack of honesty about it, which I have a right to point out. But I do not “hate” him.

On the other hand, you hate Romney, plain and simple, yet you condemn me for something you practice on a regular basis. I don't like Romney either, but we will likely be forced to vote for him if we like it or not. The alternative is far more dangerous and realistic than what Romney has been convicted of on this forum.

246 posted on 04/07/2012 10:00:01 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Mountain Mary; All

“..Anyway, what I said was, “will you please give Bella a kiss for me?”. Her whole face lit and up and she said, “of course I will”.

Class act family. Compare the Duggars(I met 12 of them the other night!) and Santorum kids to the Kardashians.”

Thanks for sharing that with us! What a loving and incredible family!


247 posted on 04/07/2012 10:18:22 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Not sure I understand the link to the lesbian singer Lesley Gore and her song, “She’s a fool.”

What am I missing?


248 posted on 04/07/2012 1:05:02 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: caww; LibLieSlayer
Thank you, LibLieSlayer, for your video of Romney saying his only tie to the Republican Party was his registration, and thank you, CAWW, for your comments on my brokered convention item.

If we go to a brokered convention, which is increasingly unlikely, we will have chaos.

Gingrich is good at being a bombthrower. That's how he's made his career, and I don't necessarily have a problem with that. However, I definitely see why it frightens the Republican establishment, just as the possibility of a 2008 brokered convention frightened the Democrats.

249 posted on 04/07/2012 1:15:16 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

Your guess is as good as mine. I am not really sure at this point. It meant something really important at the time, I’m sure. LOL.


250 posted on 04/07/2012 1:38:18 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
On the other hand, you hate Romney, plain and simple, yet you condemn me for something you practice on a regular basis.

Projection, plain and simple. I merely despise him. It's his overlords I hate.

we will likely be forced to vote for him if we like it or not

"We"? Who's "we", kemos sabay? You talking about your tapeworm?

That is never the case, in a country with free elections.

You keep telling us how levelheaded and logical, how married to reason you are -- and yet you are surrounded by a sea of unreasonable, emotive, half-insane people who actually disagree with you. You might want to re-examine that mode of engaging with the rest of FR.

251 posted on 04/08/2012 4:37:50 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
The alternative is far more dangerous and realistic than what Romney has been convicted of on this forum

Not if Republicans hold both houses of Congress.

Of course, we could be disappointed there, too -- by what GOP'ers typically do, cashing their chips for tax breaks for business.

But they'd do the same thing if Romney were in office, and Romney would make more bad Associate Justice appointments just like Bush 41 did. And when Romney moves the country to the Left, the congressional Pubbies will happily go along.

Then you'll have to explain to us how getting screwed by Boehner and McConnell's rolling over for Romney on judge nominations or treaty law or NWO agenda items is somehow preferable to their rolling over for Obama on the same issues.

252 posted on 04/08/2012 4:51:50 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: darrellmaurina

Top steal some lines:

“The Convention Center, the Convention
the Convention Center is on fire
We don’t need no water
Let the.... burn!”

LLS


253 posted on 04/08/2012 5:07:06 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Ocarterma

We all waited so long for this election and it just keeps going from bad to worse.


254 posted on 04/08/2012 3:55:38 PM PDT by Katarina ( Only RINO's left to vote for. God help us all. Glad I got to vote for Perry! God bless Rush!)
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To: darrellmaurina; caww
If the situation were reversed, I would be calling for Santorum supporters to back Gingrich right now in a last-ditch effort to defeat Mitt Romney.

Romney can't be defeated at this point, he can only be "objected to." And I will object to him.

Not long ago I was among those who called for Santorum to quit the race and get behind Newt Gingrich, clearly the better alternative to Mitt Romney.

Santorum dug in, being a principled fellow.

The race kept going Romney's way because the anti-Romney element was divided.

Now Santorum comes to my state, PA, and asks for my vote. He wants me, a Gingrich supporter, to back him strategically, you know, just to hold Romney at bay.

Well, excuse me, but I'm going to vote my principles and vote for Newt Gingrich.

Again, where was Santorum on the principles/practicality meter, going into Florida? That's where I am as Santorum goes into Pennsylvania.

Always said he couldn't beat Romney, now he wants me to waste my vote on him. I'm voting anti-Mitt AND anti-Rick.

255 posted on 04/09/2012 5:41:33 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Romney, the pink slime of presidential politics.)
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To: Lady Lucky

No matter how people look at this there’s two ways to go....either voting for Romney or not....reasons at this point really don’t matter....we’ve been had and too many feel backed into a corner that the only way to defeat Obama is now voting for Romney.

I will not do so......I remain in Newt’s court until he says he’s no longer running....and should he do so I will not follow Newt, nor Palin , nor any others who throw their support to Romney. Should he win this Primary...we’ve lost already.


256 posted on 04/09/2012 9:04:09 AM PDT by caww
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To: darrellmaurina

Just a point. Day of rest, yes, but not the only one that was celebrates/observed. Jesus professed this in practicing Judeism. The seventh day was set aside as just that a “day” of rest.

Glad to hear you don’t hold his Catholism against him.

Go Rick!


257 posted on 04/09/2012 3:24:23 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: caww

Vote for Rick in the Primary, and then, if Mitt wins the nomination, vote for him, because he is better than Obama. We got Obama for three reasons: 1) the mass hysteria of having the first Black President, and 2) Conservatives didn’t get behind Conservative candidates in the Primary season, 3) Conservatives stayed home rather than vote for McCain. Same scenario here.

I’m not a Romney supporter, but I can say this at least, he doesn’t have ties to the Tides Foundation, Bill Ayers, Van Jones, Valerie Jared, Cloward and Piven, etc. He never taught Saul Alinsky. I hate Obama more than Romney.

Go Santorum!


258 posted on 04/09/2012 3:54:45 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I’m a little bit different too, because I started thinking for myself. I agree with your assessment of Obama. But I have to disagree about Santorum missing the opportunity. That’s the same thing they said at the outset, and look how far he has come. The same thing was said of Reagan, and we know the outcome.

Santorum addressed the San Fernando Valley Republican club that I belong to. The video is still up. I wasn’t convinced until that night.

I’ll vote for Santorum, if I get that chance. But if Romney gets the nod, then I’ll vote for him, because I detest Obama more than I detest Romney. I’m more afraid of Obama and what four more years would do. God help us all.


259 posted on 04/09/2012 4:17:16 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: oneamericanvoice; Lady Lucky
Thanks to both of you for your notes.

oneamericanvoice, I can assure you that I don't hold Rick Santorum’s Roman Catholicism against him. The Constitution was written in a context of a deliberate desire to include the Roman Catholics of Maryland, and while I don't agree with Roman Catholicism at all, I am fully in agreement with the right of Roman Catholics to run for and serve in civil office. At this point I believe Rick Santorum is the best candidate and have no problem voting for him.

Lady Lucky, I understand your desire to support Newt Gingrich. I will never ask someone to vote or act against their conscience, and if you believe you cannot vote for Rick Santorum, then please do vote for the candidate you believe is right for America.

For me, I can live with either Gingrich or Santorum though I prefer Santorum.

It may very well be too late to stop Romney, but I'm willing to fight as hard as possible to avoid that from happening.

260 posted on 04/09/2012 7:23:31 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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