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CT Senate passes death penalty repeal bill 20-16
WFSB ^

Posted on 04/05/2012 7:37:59 AM PDT by matt04

Shortly after 2 a.m. Thursday, state senators voted to pass the high-profiled death penalty repeal bill 20-16.

The proposal now goes to the House of Representatives, where it is expected to pass easily. Democratic Gov. Dannel P. Malloy has said he would sign the legislation into law.

The legislation would not directly affect sentences of the 11 inmates on Connecticut's death row. But relatives of some crime victims are opposing the measure, saying it could be used by lawyers for those inmates as grounds for appeal.

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Support for the death penalty remains high in Connecticut, where a Quinnipiac University poll last month found 62 percent of residents do not support repeal. But state lawmakers on both sides of the issue have raised concerns on what the poll is actually reflecting, and the governor has said people should follow their conscience on the issue.

In 2009, a death penalty repeal bill passed the Connecticut legislature but was vetoed by then Gov. Jodi Rell. Last year, a similar effort failed in the Senate due largely to an ongoing death penalty trial in the Cheshire home invasion.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: connecticut; deathpenalty; malloy; petit
Last year, a similar effort failed in the Senate due largely to an ongoing death penalty trial in the Cheshire home invasion.

Cowards. They wait until the horrific murders, assault and arson of the Petit family home is out of many people's minds to pass this bill.

Mark my words, some if not all of the people on death row will have their sentences reduced.

1 posted on 04/05/2012 7:38:06 AM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04
From the comments section in the article: "Welcome to the Hartford Capitol Building. This is where we keep those who are so mentally deranged they're deemed unfit for even the insane asylum. Instead, we have elected them run our state government."
2 posted on 04/05/2012 7:40:24 AM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04

I don’t see how they can claim that this won’t affect people already on death row. My understanding of English Common Law is that must benefit if the penalty for the offence is reduced.


3 posted on 04/05/2012 7:43:24 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: matt04

Ct changes border sign to Welcome home invading murderers.


4 posted on 04/05/2012 7:49:15 AM PDT by y6162
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To: y6162

Just one thing after another.


5 posted on 04/05/2012 7:54:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: matt04

So they don’t give a rat’s hindquarters that almost two thirds of voters support the DP.And as for those still on death row...I’ll wager the clothes on my back that if this passes and is signed not another killer will be executed.The currest Rat governor will block all executions while he’s in office and he’ll commute all death sentences on his last day in office.


6 posted on 04/05/2012 7:54:17 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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To: Squawk 8888

I’m sure as we type lawyers for the inmates on death row are working on that.


7 posted on 04/05/2012 8:13:25 AM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04
Support for the death penalty remains high in Connecticut, where a Quinnipiac University poll last month found 62 percent of residents do not support repeal.

Unfortunately, support for traitorous Democrats remains high in Connecticut, as well.

8 posted on 04/05/2012 8:41:10 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: matt04

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/politics/senate-votes-on-death-penalty-repeal

The legislation would eliminate capital punishment for all future cases, but would not directly affect sentences of the 11 inmates currently on Connecticut’s death row. Many officials insisted on that as a condition of their support for repeal in a state where two men were recently sentenced to death in a brutal, highly publicized 2007 home invasion.

...But opponents of the bill predicted the repeal will be the basis for numerous legal appeals by lawyers for death row inmates.

“The idea that the death penalty can be repealed prospectively only and that our actions today will ensure that the 11 murderers on death row in Connecticut will one day face execution is a mere fallacy,” said Senate Minority John McKinney, R-Fairfield. “We know and it is undisputed that appeals will be brought almost immediately, we’ve been told, on behalf of those 11 death row inmates to commute their sentences.”


9 posted on 04/05/2012 9:02:58 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: matt04

As an attorney who has represented three clients sentenced to death and seen it work up close. I completely oppose the death penalty.

First there is the moral objection. If like me, you get your spiritual guidance from christian authority figures (in my case the Catholic bishops) you should know that they say the death penalty is as morally wrong as legal abortion.

Secondly the penalty is unevenly applied. It does not go to the “worst of the worst”, but to those who have a bad lawyer, an uncertain case or a grandstanding prosecutor (if a client is caught dead-to-rights on the evidence and is facing the DP any competent lawyer pleads him out to life in prison)

Third, the error rate is WAY too high. of the three men I represented: One was incredibly innocent, the forensics proved this, as did a dozen eyewitnesses. 48 hours even did a special on the case. but a corrupt prosecutor covering for an organized crime figure led to this man being sentenced to death for a murder he didn’t commit. He spent more than 20 years on death row before the courts finally cleared him.

Another of them was indeed a murderer and deserves to spend the rest of his life behind bars, but was deliberately framed by the police for a second murder so he could be executed-something that was only proved when the REAL murderer died, and gave his lawyer permission to turn over to police evidence that proved he did it, including the murder weapon.

the final one claimed he was innocent too, I don’t know if he was or wasn’t. What i do know id that he was falsely diagnosed with AIDS while in prison and before trial and believed he was dying so he barely bothered to put up much of a defense, and his incompetent lawyer never cared about his mental condition or made even a token effort at doing his job.

Oh, and BTW, it costs about 5x as much for the state to execute a prisoner than it does to incarcerate them for the rest of their natural lives

“Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord”, It is not something we imperfect humans should attempt on his behalf


10 posted on 04/05/2012 9:09:41 AM PDT by Lex Gabba
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To: Lex Gabba
Third, the error rate is WAY too high. of the three men I represented:

I have opposed the death penalty for many years now. I have no love for those who deserve it, but the fact is, it is the one punishment meted out by the state that cannot be overturned, rolled back, or compensated for.

The only death penalty I support is the immediate killing by the victims, of the murderer in self defense.

11 posted on 04/05/2012 10:30:06 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: matt04
ATTENTION CT CONSERVATIVES!!!

Call every Republican and Republican running for election this cycle and demand they run ads focusing on those two bastards who raped and killed a mom and her two daughters before torching their home!!!!!!!!

Even libtards would come out and vote for a Republican after watching that. Hopefully the TV outlets won't deem it "offffffensive", or "sccccarrrry"...

12 posted on 04/05/2012 11:11:19 AM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go Blackhawks!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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To: Paradox; Lex Gabba

I am generally opposed to the death penalty, but there are certain cases, like the Petits in Connecticut, where Justice demands it. Someone who has their family ripped from them, a child tortured and raped, or some other very heinous crime deserves real justice.

Vengeance might be the Lord’s, but He doesn’t deny us Justice in this life. Vengeance would be Dr. Petit torturing his family’s murderers to death. Justice is their getting a lethal injection.


13 posted on 04/05/2012 12:20:16 PM PDT by jjm2111
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To: matt04

I’ll bet the state favors abortions though!


14 posted on 04/05/2012 1:25:28 PM PDT by QT3.14 (OBAMA's life: a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma)
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To: matt04

CT passed legislation that made it legal for drag queens to use women’s bathrooms. Possibly made it a hate crime to protest about it too.

Anyway, this is just one more reason that I won’t be visiting CT.


15 posted on 04/05/2012 2:11:17 PM PDT by prairiebreeze
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To: matt04

Don’t be surprised. Human life has no value to a Democrat...except that of a criminal or terrorist.


16 posted on 04/05/2012 2:43:26 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood)
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To: Jagdgewehr
Human life has no value to a Democrat...except that of a criminal or terrorist (to a Democratic lawyer to use them to advance socialism or to defend them for a ton of money).
17 posted on 04/05/2012 5:43:38 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: jjm2111
When was the last time CT executed ANYONE?

It may make enlightened liberals "feel good" about this legislation, but it's MEANINGLESS.

18 posted on 04/05/2012 8:36:56 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: jjm2111

There is nothing wrong with the death penalty if it is applied to those who are truely guilty. Therefore it is the absolute duty of the state to make sure that it’s evidence is beyond dispute, that the suspect had all their rights protected, and that competant counsel was had for them.

It is worth the money to make sure that this happens.

However, TRY THIS ON FOR SIZE.

Between myself, my mother, my sister, my daughter and father-in-law, we knew personally or by a relationship, of over 15 people who were viciously murdered by robbers, crazy people, or political assassins (i.e. Black Panthers, suspected Weathermen terrorists, Philippine Marxists (Lt. Col. Nick Rowe/ former VN POW, a friend), etc.

Many were killed: in a homosexual incident/robbery; by four black robbers from Baltimore who executed a white college professor, his wife, his neighbor’s 7 year old son, and his nanny, after being tied up in their homes in New York (I knew the professor’s daughter); one man was shot by his girlfriend (she got off on negligent manslaughter - 3 years); a art dealer who was killed by a possible lover; the top atheist in America, Madeline Murray, whose son I used to know; Iranian exile Ali Tabatabai, who was assassinated by an Iranian killer named Daoub one hour after talking to my editor; and others.

Also add into this the attempted murder of fellow undercover operatives and/or law enforcement officials in New Orleans and NYC (stabbing; firebombing); one possible attempt on my life that was thwarted and another one against me and my family that resulted in the arrest and jailing of a drug dealer; a drunk’s attack on my son in his car about six months after he had returned from Iraq - big mistake, my son was armed and arrested the bastard; a woman up the street from our family store who was beaten to death by her boyfriend - I gave the police the name of the suspect whom I got from a local neighbor; and my father-in-law knew a family in Colorado who were murdered in their homes in a possible robbery - at least 4 people, probably more).

Need I say any more about the need for a properly functioning death penalty?

I’m tired of the bodies of innocent people piling us around us while liberals make all kinds of excuses for letting their convicted murderers live out their lives, and at the taxpayers’ expense.

A society that refuses to protect itself is a doomed society.


19 posted on 04/05/2012 8:37:05 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Lex Gabba

How many clients did you refuse because you knew they were guilty?


20 posted on 04/05/2012 8:56:12 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Lex Gabba
You seem to be quick to always point out that you are an attorney. I've had one exchange with you and that was one of the first things you pointed out. So, personally, I'm very suspicious of anyone who feels the constant need to point out something that they may or may not be. We have several attorneys on FR and they very seldom use that in their conversation unless asked. It's been my experience that if someone is accomplished, they do not feel the need to point it out at every turn; even anecdotally.

Secondly, you seem to have a liberal slant which is fine but do not defend the indefensible and keeping monsters alive is indefensible. Butchering another human being and then being allowed to live in relative comfort for the remainder of the offender's life is a sin. Is a man not to pay for his sin? If they have taken a life then they are to give their’s.

A mortal sin is butchering an innocent. Making someone pay for that is justice.

As far as your stats please provide hard documentation on the figure that it costs 5x more to execute than to feed, clothe, take care of medical needs etc when the figures I have seen state that the average annual costs is $30K but that was some years ago. In CA the avg costs is around $47K. So Lets use Scott Petersen for an example. He was 30 years old when convicted in 2002 which, if the figures are correct, around $470,000 has been spent on him so far and he could theoretically live another 40 years even though he was sentenced to death so we'll add on another $1,880,000 for that time span for a grand total of $2,350,000.00 total if he lives to be 70 and you're saying that it would cost 5x more to execute him?

21 posted on 04/05/2012 10:24:41 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The biggest Hate group in America is located in the White House, Congress & DOJ)
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To: Lex Gabba

Secondly the penalty is unevenly applied. It does not go to the “worst of the worst”,

You are right. All murderers should be executed.

“Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord”,

Exactly, and in his everlasting covenant with Noah he commanded the execution of all murderers.


22 posted on 04/06/2012 4:30:58 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Lex Gabba
First there is the moral objection. If like me, you get your spiritual guidance from christian authority figures (in my case the Catholic bishops) you should know that they say the death penalty is as morally wrong as legal abortion.

The two are not equivalent--not even close.

Besides, bishops don't outweigh God, who established the death penalty for murderers.

As an attorney, your job is to make sure the system protects your client. But without a death penalty there is no downside to anyone to take an innocent human life. And when that is done, there is no turning back from that grievous event either.

So, the state is charged with meting out justice. And justice requires death for murderers, because they themselves took a life.

What is monstrous is this is happening in the state where the Petit family was butchered. Therefore, it will be open season on Connecticut residents.

And it is amazing that Democrats always are in favor of murdering innocent unborn infants, but cannot bear to execute a murderer.

23 posted on 04/06/2012 4:50:36 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: matt04
Support for the death penalty remains high in Connecticut, where a Quinnipiac University poll last month found 62 percent of residents do not support repeal. But state lawmakers on both sides ...
... don't really care what their constituents think.
24 posted on 04/06/2012 4:53:08 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Lex Gabba

As soon as you equate death penalty with abortion you lose all credibility and people don’t even read the rest of your post. You should have put that at the end of your post, then at least the whole thing would stand a chance of being read.

Abortion is not in the same ballpark as the death penalty. It’s not in the same league. It’s not even in the same sport.


25 posted on 04/06/2012 4:58:15 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: boop

2005, Michael Ross


26 posted on 04/06/2012 10:24:08 AM PDT by matt04
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