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Dick Morris: Obama is going to lose big
dickmorris.com ^ | 04/05/12 | Dick Morris

Posted on 04/05/2012 9:01:40 AM PDT by varmintman

Dick Morris' "Lunch" video this morning involves a claim that a realistic reading of today's polls indicate that Romney (or anybody else other than Rick Santorum more or less) will beat Obama very badly. The basic gist is that Obama needs to be over 50% among likely voters at this point to break even and the fact of his being no better than around 45 spells wipeout in November since the undecideds almost never break for an incumbent under such circumstances.

Morris notes that it's as if marriages were five year contracts with options to renew and somebody were to ask your husband or wife at year four if they were planning on renewing, and they said they'd have to think about it...


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KEYWORDS: 2012predictions; bho2012; losers; morris
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1 posted on 04/05/2012 9:01:43 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman

When is the last time Morris was right about anything?


2 posted on 04/05/2012 9:04:03 AM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: varmintman

Uh Oh.... Dicky boy is often very wrong in his predictions....


3 posted on 04/05/2012 9:04:11 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: NavVet

Truth 100,
Morris 0.

Last time I checked.


4 posted on 04/05/2012 9:05:26 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: varmintman

WTH data is Morris looking at?


5 posted on 04/05/2012 9:05:42 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: varmintman
That's basically what I've been saying. I just wish it was Newt instead on Romney who was leading our side.
6 posted on 04/05/2012 9:06:19 AM PDT by McGruff (Umm...I'm thinking.)
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To: ScottinVA

Morris predictions are worthless.


7 posted on 04/05/2012 9:06:25 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: NavVet
When is the last time Morris was right about anything?
I can't figure out how the guy makes any money. He's useless.
8 posted on 04/05/2012 9:06:40 AM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! ABO! ABO!)
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To: varmintman
Tell me the states he's going to lose, Dick.
Tell me how much he'll lose North Carolina by.

Tell me which of Kerry's states, if any, he's not going to carry. How does he lose them? What groups fade away.

Give me specifics.

9 posted on 04/05/2012 9:06:44 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: varmintman
Morris notes that it's as if marriages were five year contracts with options to renew and somebody were to ask your husband or wife at year four if they were planning on renewing, and they said they'd have to think about it...

But in this case, we're talking about many millions of very dull sheeple who are quite willing to receive abuse so long as they get an occasional freebie thrown their way.

10 posted on 04/05/2012 9:07:36 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: tflabo

“Uh Oh.... Dicky boy is often very wrong in his predictions....

Yeah. This is what worries me about hearing something Morris says that I agree with. I DO think (most of the time) that 0bama loses big.


11 posted on 04/05/2012 9:08:18 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (The only economic certainty: When it all blows up, Krugman will say we didn't spend enough.)
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To: varmintman

Who is Obama going to run against then?

Romney sure the he!! isn’t going to beat Obama!


12 posted on 04/05/2012 9:08:25 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: varmintman

I agree. In firming up his base, Obama is showing his true nature and alienating moderate middle-class voters. Moreover, many people who say they are leaning to Obama are just giving the politically correct answer, and in the privacy of the voting booth will pull the other lever.

It could be comparable to 1980, IMHO. It doesn’t matter how bad Romney is, people will be voting against the incumbent.


13 posted on 04/05/2012 9:09:46 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: varmintman

Oh no. Say it isn’t so, Dick.


14 posted on 04/05/2012 9:10:10 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: varmintman

Many things can happen between now and November. That’s an entire baseball season + the World Series.

Mitt is going in with his obvious problems: low support from Conservatives, RomneyCare and his magic underwear.

Obama is dragged down by ObamaCare, high gas prices, high unemployment, and trillions in new debt.

It’s really a question of who reeks less and how many dead people vote in blue states. The American voter can’t really be trusted to decide based on what is true or prudent.


15 posted on 04/05/2012 9:11:08 AM PDT by lurk
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To: varmintman

today’s rasmussen tracking poll (as shown on rcp) shows Romney over obama by 2 nationally, and Santorum under obama by 2 nationally.

Pretty close election either way. At this stage, today, Romney is polling slightly better than Santorum, but Santorum is very much within range. Romney does not have a lock in the “electability” argument with TODAYS NUMBERS. But he does have an advantage over Santorum.

(I am not advocating anything by the above. I’m just reporting the facts and drawing some basic conclusions.

personally, I think obama is the favorite for November....but I would love to be wrong!)


16 posted on 04/05/2012 9:11:27 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Tanniker Smith
Tell me which of Kerry's states, if any, he's not going to carry. How does he lose them? What groups fade away.

Exactly. Obama has 250+ all but guaranteed EVs before the first vote is recorded. He gets all of Kerry's states, plus NV and probably CO. Romney has about 160. All else will be up for grabs.

17 posted on 04/05/2012 9:11:43 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: Tanniker Smith
Obumbles will lose the coal producing states. You can't gut such a large swath of a state economy and win.

If gas prices stay high he will lose many more states, especially rural Midwest states like MI.

18 posted on 04/05/2012 9:14:40 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: lurk
The American voter can’t really be trusted to decide based on what is true or prudent.

Bingo. Most don't have a clue of why certain issues are vital to this country. They keep a narrow view on what puts a couple more $ in their pocket, along with their favorite social cause and focus on those.

19 posted on 04/05/2012 9:15:03 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: varmintman

So I don’t have to feel bad about not voting for the RINO in November?


20 posted on 04/05/2012 9:16:05 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (RIP Tea Party 2009-2012)
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To: Beagle8U
If gas prices stay high he will lose many more states, especially rural Midwest states like MI.

The city of Destroyed will have to depopulate a whole lot more between now and November for Romney to have a shot of winning MI. "Obama's Stash" is very popular there.

21 posted on 04/05/2012 9:19:09 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: varmintman
I don't need this creep to tell me this.

Just what Obama has done on gas prices should make him toast. But even that is not needed. Obama has spit in the face of the white folks that got him elected. A tiny few will be back voting for him due to white guilt but because Obama has divided the races on purpose and basically said those white folks are racists they won't be voting for him again.

Obama, simply put, is a dumbass. He had the greatest opportunity in American history to bring the country together. Instead he has been a punk and a puke. A thug. Obama has been the punk in the hooded jacket walking very closly behind us on a dark street. This is going to cost him dearly. There is a long list of other things that will contribute to his being defeated in a landslide. And it will be a very big landslide. A tsunami that voter fraud will not be able to overcome.

No, I don't need Morris to tell me this. I knew it already.

22 posted on 04/05/2012 9:19:29 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Sybeck1
So I don’t have to feel bad about not voting for the RINO in November?

I'm voting for a conservative.

23 posted on 04/05/2012 9:20:09 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: ScottinVA

I wouldn’t take the chance if I were y’all.

I hope Dick Morris is right, but what’s his record.

Vote against Obama.


24 posted on 04/05/2012 9:22:00 AM PDT by altura
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To: varmintman

I agree with the Toe Sucker, but for different reasons.

In the Trayvon Martin case, Obama has lit the fuse on a nationwide race war.

Any voter who is not black realizes that he or she is the target of that war, and will be in serious trouble if the leader of that war were to gain a second term.

So they’ll run screaming to the GOP and vote for a yellow dog, a warm bucket of spit, or perhaps even Mitt Romney.

It’s the Southern Strategy, more wildly successful than Nixon ever dreamed it could be.


25 posted on 04/05/2012 9:22:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: NavVet

My thoughts exactly.


26 posted on 04/05/2012 9:22:42 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: varmintman
Dick Morris: Obama is going to lose big

From your lips to God's ears!!

Comrade "O" has got to GO!!!

27 posted on 04/05/2012 9:25:03 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: ScottinVA

It is being said George Soros likes Romney. That means Romney will change nothing Obama has done and will make things worse. We need to elect someone else.

Anyone other than Obama and Romney.


28 posted on 04/05/2012 9:25:24 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

i think obama is the favorite...but, I also think what you say here could end up being relevant:

“Any voter who is not black realizes that he or she is the target of that war, and will be in serious trouble if the leader of that war were to gain a second term.”

obviously that sentiment will not show up clearly in polling anytime soon...SO...there IS a possibility that come mid October, obama could start sinking and it could end up a blow out, ala 1980. That “could” happen.

(Note to Romney: if you end up winning big, it doesn’t mean you are Reagan. It just means that obama is worse than Carter).


29 posted on 04/05/2012 9:25:37 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ScottinVA
Detoilet’s population is down to half what it was, and it is about to be taken over by the state. The unions are going to get gutted in the takeover, more leeches will leave.
30 posted on 04/05/2012 9:26:01 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: ScottinVA

Based off the Kerry states won, Obama will struggle with PA and WI. We need to worry about VA, NC, and FL. Not sure about NV, NM, and CO going Red. If we keep those 3 and PA or WI flips + the others hold steady, even Willard can win. Not too big an “if” IMHO.


31 posted on 04/05/2012 9:31:15 AM PDT by castowell (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: ConservativeDude

The sentiment is out there now. Wait until they start burning Detroit, Philly and Baltimore this summer.
Not to mention the neo-hippie antics of Occupy Wall Street.

I still chuckle about Morris and his toe sucking incident.
The woman who was involved was not only from Pittsburgh....she was from the exact neighborhood in Pittsburgh were, when I was a kid, you used to go cruising if your intentions were to meet a girl like that.


32 posted on 04/05/2012 9:32:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: varmintman

I take it he’s not accounting for the third-party spoiler by which Obama can win with a plurality.


33 posted on 04/05/2012 9:33:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: altura
Vote against Obama.

Did that last time. And dangit.. he still won.

One thing I really appreciate about the FR experience is the centralization of valuable, pertinent information. At one time, admittedly out of ignorance, I was 50/50 about Romney. But the wealth of information that has since flowed in here has convinced me that beneath that carefully arranged wool disguise is a liberal wolf anxious to spring out into full view. The man is full of more sh*t than a Christmas goose, and those conservative-flavored soundbites are simply rehearsed garbage.

I'm convinced. Voting for Romney is one.. BAD.. idea.

34 posted on 04/05/2012 9:34:12 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: EGPWS

Diito yups

“Romney sure the he!! isn’t going to beat Obama!”


35 posted on 04/05/2012 9:36:27 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: NavVet

1996.


36 posted on 04/05/2012 9:38:29 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: proxy_user
Moreover, many people who say they are leaning to Obama are just giving the politically correct answer

Remember how we had that hope back in 2008, i.e. the hoped-for, but nonexistent "Bradley Effect?"

37 posted on 04/05/2012 9:41:08 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: GoldenPup

That ought to be one of those mindless chants i.e. “One-two-three-fo’ comrade “O” has got to go!”


38 posted on 04/05/2012 9:45:50 AM PDT by old school
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To: Buckeye McFrog

yet.....obama is still, at this time, if you go state by state, the odds on favorite:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/153764/Obama-Solidifying-Lead-Among-Independents-Swing-States.aspx


39 posted on 04/05/2012 9:46:29 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: varmintman

The crabby “principled” Freepers and the Soros brigade have shown up. They enthusiastically agree that we are going to get four more years of Our Beloved Leader. I can’t go along with that. As a doctor, I do not first kill my patient in order to save him. Obama is killing America, aided and abetted by communists and Freepers.


40 posted on 04/05/2012 9:46:36 AM PDT by neocon1984
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To: neocon1984

That’s unadulterated bullshit! How do you fix your mouth to speak of Freepers that way!


41 posted on 04/05/2012 9:51:53 AM PDT by old school
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To: proxy_user
It could be comparable to 1980, IMHO. It doesn’t matter how bad Romney is, people will be voting against the incumbent.

How old are? You're not seriously comparing one of the greatest politicians, communicators and Presidents of all-time to one of the weakest potential Presidential nominees in history, Mitt Romney, are you?

42 posted on 04/05/2012 9:58:24 AM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
I DO think (most of the time) that 0bama loses big.

Or MAYBE you are really thinking "obama is a big loser..." all the time?

43 posted on 04/05/2012 10:02:02 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: ConservativeDude
I am not advocating anything by the above. I’m just reporting the facts and drawing some basic conclusions.

I don't care! OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!

44 posted on 04/05/2012 10:03:05 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (If we had a President, he'd look like Newt.)
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To: ConservativeDude
“Any voter who is not black realizes that he or she is the target of that war, and will be in serious trouble if the leader of that war were to gain a second term.”

Mitt Romney is the Nidal Hasan of the Republican party, someone on the liberal side of the war ready to destroy as much of conservatism as possible.

45 posted on 04/05/2012 10:04:33 AM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Future Snake Eater

in the true tradition of free republic....where we are compelled to prove how conservative we are but implicitly if not explicitly advocating obama’s re-election.


46 posted on 04/05/2012 10:10:27 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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47 posted on 04/05/2012 10:11:01 AM PDT by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - you can*t do that with a WebTV - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: neocon1984
Obama is killing America, aided and abetted by communists and Freepers.

But, Romney isn't going to do the same thing and set back the conservative movement at the same time?

Romney will leave the Republican party in worse shape than George W. Bush did. And, we'll get Romneycare, new taxes and, perhaps, another David Souter before he is done.

48 posted on 04/05/2012 10:11:33 AM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: ConservativeDude

I prefer “Welcome to FR! Come for the analysis, stay for the knee-jerking!”


49 posted on 04/05/2012 10:13:24 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (If we had a President, he'd look like Newt.)
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To: varmintman

Obama’s going to cream romney so bad the GOP will completely implode and vanish by 2016, but it won’t make a difference since this will be the last real election.


50 posted on 04/05/2012 10:14:50 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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