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Expert: Zimmerman whispered 'punks' before shooting Trayvon Martin
wgal.com/cnn ^ | April 5, 2012

Posted on 04/05/2012 10:56:20 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

SANFORD, Florida (CNN) - A forensic audio expert who analyzed 911 recordings disagrees with speculation that George Zimmerman uttered a racial slur moments before shooting Trayvon Martin to death.

What the neighborhood watch volunteer whispered as he followed the teen leading up to the deadly confrontation could weigh into the decision about charges against Zimmerman.

The garbled word that raised controversy was "punks," not "coons," said Tom Owen, chairman emeritus of the American Board of Recorded Evidence.

When Owen used a computer application to remove cell phone interference, the word became clearer, he said. After discussions with linguists, he became convinced that Zimmerman said "punks," he said.

He provided CNN with a copy of the processed audio.

(Excerpt) Read more at wgal.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: interracial; racism; racist; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 04/05/2012 10:56:25 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

All this parsing of a mumbled word, while black thugs shout “cracker” for all the world to hear while setting a white kid on fire or beating an elderly white man to death. (Notice how they work in packs and prey on the weak).


2 posted on 04/05/2012 10:59:09 AM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Free ThinkerNY

America is being “punked” (fooled, scammed) by CNN.


3 posted on 04/05/2012 10:59:59 AM PDT by Perseverando ((Keywords are our friends !))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Wellllllll...this should be considered a hate crime then, because punks are a protected class in America now.


4 posted on 04/05/2012 11:00:20 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

K? Thanks for pointing out the obvious Mr. So Called Expert.

I clearly heard “...punks always get away...” two week ago.

So what is your encore?

Gargling Peanut Butter?

Flippin, race baitin, enemedia ...


5 posted on 04/05/2012 11:02:00 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"punks" is plural. Zimmerman was only interacting with one person. I call BS.
6 posted on 04/05/2012 11:02:53 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Free ThinkerNY
What he said was "Fluking Cold !!

...plane as day with the enhanced audio on CNN and other outlets who are now walking back their "Coon" interpretations.

7 posted on 04/05/2012 11:03:30 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Lies! I clearly hear Zimmerman say “Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious” followed by 2 lines of “Um diddle diddle diddle um diddle ay”, which clearly makes him guilty.

If these so called reporters insist on being ridiculous, I say “Lets go ALL the way!”

8 posted on 04/05/2012 11:04:36 AM PDT by Casie
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To: mrsmel
You're right but observation and commentary won't save the life of a loved one.

9 posted on 04/05/2012 11:04:53 AM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

But CNN said it was “f..in COLD. or is this another part of the tape?


10 posted on 04/05/2012 11:05:25 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I clearly hear Zimmerman say...”Tom Owen is a poo poo head”. :o)


11 posted on 04/05/2012 11:06:31 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I would like to read all that Zimmerman was supposed to have said. Its better to see it in context.


12 posted on 04/05/2012 11:06:48 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
So, after 2 weeks, the LameStream Media, reviewing "enhanced" audio and video have had to admit Zinnerman did not say the word "Coon" and the back of his head did show evidence of trama.

What a disgrace our national media has become.

13 posted on 04/05/2012 11:07:22 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This whole topic reminds me of those silly ghosthunters on TV that claim to hear EVPs on their audio tapes.


14 posted on 04/05/2012 11:07:39 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Slobering Mathews and some other race baiting black woman both emphatically said last week,Its obvious and clear he said f’en Coon
yesterday I read that 2 experts both said he unmistakeably said’F’en Cold” as it was due to rain in N Fla in February......
I hope Zim never gets arrested.
15 posted on 04/05/2012 11:08:11 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Free ThinkerNY
You cannot remove “noise” from “content” in a recorded file. There is no way to separate them.

You can only reduce it's effect. If you become too aggressive in trying to reduce noise, you will change the acoustic characteristics of the word you're actually trying to clarify...meaning, you could easily change the vowel/consonant sounds of a word when eliminating noise.

16 posted on 04/05/2012 11:08:56 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If the stenographers of the left stream media would spend 10% of the time they spend on this BS investigating owebama’s background we wouldn’t be in the poor state of race relations that we are in because we would be rid of the race-baiter-in-chief.


17 posted on 04/05/2012 11:09:39 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Perseverando

I think that since the media gets to use public airwaves they are called to a higher level of scrutiny of their activity than the average person. They should have their license yanked when they manipulate the news.


18 posted on 04/05/2012 11:10:15 AM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Is Whorealdo a White Hispanic now and what is a Black Hispanic?

Pray for America


19 posted on 04/05/2012 11:10:15 AM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Maybe it was “skunks”, not “coons”.


20 posted on 04/05/2012 11:10:15 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Zimmerman clearly said, “Go out and buy more guns and ammo”.....so I did! :D


21 posted on 04/05/2012 11:11:06 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (I am George! (now all I need is a T-shirt))
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To: Cowboy Bob

You can hear it here:
911 tape
Call # one

http://sanfordfl.gov/investigation/trayvon_martin.html


22 posted on 04/05/2012 11:14:00 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Not to belabor the obvious. If Zimmerman shot Martin in self defense it doesn't matter what he called him. Does it suddenly become something other than self defense if you call the guy beating your head into the sidewalk a bad name? Of course not. This has no bearing on the case.
23 posted on 04/05/2012 11:19:09 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (In case of doubt: Attack! George S. Patton)
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To: brytlea
They should have their license yanked when they manipulate the news.

Let them keep their license and change the FCC rules to allow 'a la carte' cable subscriptions. Then let the networks wither on the vine.

24 posted on 04/05/2012 11:19:12 AM PDT by Spirochete (Sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: t1b8zs
If you hear it in context

After the cold comment the dispatcher asks if he was following and then replies He doesn't need to do that,

Let's read into the comment like the left did. He says it's cold out here, she says you don't need to stay out in the cold.

WHY would anyone make a derogatory comment that the person cannot see and may themselves be black? Particularly one who is involved (friends and family member are AA).

25 posted on 04/05/2012 11:20:23 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Myrddin

I listened to the recording and it definitely sounded like “f-—in punks”, certainly not “f-—in coons” as the race baiter have been trying to claim.

He was sort of muttering under his breath while speaking to the 911 dispatcher. He wasn’t addressing any individual(s) as “punks”. He was talking about Martin (and punks like in in general) not talking to Martin.


26 posted on 04/05/2012 11:21:42 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The candidate I vote for will NOT have a CARE after his name.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
"You cannot remove “noise” from “content” in a recorded file. There is no way to separate them."

Nonsense! I do digital data processing of seismic data for a living. We remove noise all the time with band-pass filters. The cell phone noize would have a certain frequency range and can be easily removed.

27 posted on 04/05/2012 11:22:47 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Myrddin

Not true. If you were chasing a coyote, you might say ‘f__king coyotes’..


28 posted on 04/05/2012 11:22:59 AM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Where in hell are the forensics. Was there powder stippling on Martins skin and clothing? If so...it was up close. If not the shot came from a distance. It would be easy to determine if he was shot while fighting Martin.


29 posted on 04/05/2012 11:26:04 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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To: Vendome
I clearly heard “...punks always get away...” two week ago.

I posted at the time that this was mis-heard.

He said "...they always get away... [breath] ...out the back gate."

He was telling the dispatcher that they head in a certain direction. He was not lamenting that they always get away.

-PJ

30 posted on 04/05/2012 11:26:04 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Security Camera Footage and 911 tape recordings for this case can be seen and heard here:

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.html


31 posted on 04/05/2012 11:28:19 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("We Need To Teach The Establishment a Lesson" - Newt Gingrich)
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To: hoosiermama

Thanks for that link. I watched the videos. One of them showed Zimmerman doing something I think is kind of interesting. He is walking in to the police station surrounded by officers. As he walks in the door he does something that only the officer behind him does maybe because Zimmerman does it first. What he does is to me a sign of respect for where he is at. It is a simple thing but to me says something about him. I’ve never met a gang banger or punk that would have done this very simple thing as they walk in to a PD that you can see Zimmerman do here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsLBVaCnPis


32 posted on 04/05/2012 11:30:16 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If you play the audio backwards, what do you hear????


33 posted on 04/05/2012 11:30:16 AM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
Not true. If you were chasing a coyote, you might say ‘f__king coyotes’..

If you were waiting to cross a busy railroad crossing, you might say 'F__king trains'.

Ooh! Or if you were outside at a campfire and the mosquitos were biting you, you might say 'F__king mosquitos'.

(This is all so stupid. I'm an idiot for participating at all)

34 posted on 04/05/2012 11:31:31 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: al_c
"This whole topic reminds me of those silly ghosthunters on TV that claim to hear EVPs on their audio tapes."

Maybe Zimmerman used the word, "spook".

35 posted on 04/05/2012 11:32:10 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They are now morphing him into a Clint Eastwood character, since the last round failed.


36 posted on 04/05/2012 11:32:10 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: isthisnickcool

Wipes his shoes?


37 posted on 04/05/2012 11:33:25 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I love it. He actually remembers to wipe his shoes on the mat. LOL!!


38 posted on 04/05/2012 11:33:36 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: IrishPennant
If you play the audio backwards, what do you hear????

I buried Travon.

39 posted on 04/05/2012 11:34:13 AM PDT by Nachoman (I HOPE we CHANGE presidents.)
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To: moehoward
He actually remembers to wipe his shoes on the mat. LOL!!

Of course the left will claim he is destroying evidence.

40 posted on 04/05/2012 11:36:03 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

I heard that, too! Though, it could be the voices in my head talking... :p


41 posted on 04/05/2012 11:36:11 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just waiting for the Leftists to spin the word, “punk” to mean something racist.


42 posted on 04/05/2012 11:36:28 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
HE GETS OUT OF HIS TRUCK AND SAYS "(IT'S) F__KING COLD". IT'S A 'NO BRAINER' HERE FOLKS.

Any other analysis is HOGWASH.

43 posted on 04/05/2012 11:37:30 AM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: avacado
In a recording, if you use band pass filters, you will remove everything within that frequency range. That may include noise AND content. If the noise is within the vocal range, the only way to reduce it's effect is flipping the phase on the noise and playing it with the original. But this has limited success as well. Unless the noise exactly matches the noise underlying the content, it can only reduce it.

The point is, once the noise and content are one file, separating them is not an exact science.

44 posted on 04/05/2012 11:37:51 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: isthisnickcool

First two officers didn’t do it....Only the officer who followed him. Coming in out of the rain/mud he wipes his feet...His mother taught him well. And you are correct a punk would not have been as courteous.


45 posted on 04/05/2012 11:38:26 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Perseverando

This man has been “lynched” by the media and the politicians and will not get a fair trail if it goes to court.


46 posted on 04/05/2012 11:40:28 AM PDT by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

My thought is that if they Imperial Wizard of the most violent branch of the Ku Klux Klan were able to make a case of self-defense that was not contraindicated by physical or eye-witness tesstimony, he should not be arrested.

If there was any reasonable doubt that he had “hunted down” someone, black, white, or purple, he should not be convicted.

“Hate crime” laws are crimes in themselves.


47 posted on 04/05/2012 11:40:28 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: eddie willers
Wipes his shoes?

Yep. It is a small thing but says something to me. I've never met a puke who would have done such a thing going in to the PD.

48 posted on 04/05/2012 11:40:37 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: al_c

>>>>This whole topic reminds me of those silly ghosthunters on TV that claim to hear EVPs on their audio tapes.<<<<

Or those idiots from Oregon tromping around in the woods looking for Bigfoot.


49 posted on 04/05/2012 11:45:40 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: jessduntno


Now there will be punk protests in the streets...
50 posted on 04/05/2012 11:45:59 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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