Skip to comments.Military board says Marine should be dismissed
Posted on 04/05/2012 11:21:37 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (AP) - A military board says a Marine who criticized President Barack Obama on his Facebook page has committed misconduct and should be dismissed.
The Marine Corps administrative board made the decision Thursday after a daylong hearing at Camp Pendleton for Sgt. Gary Stein.
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They lose freedom of speech when serving America?
Yep, criticize your dear leader and get demonized. Lose your career, and get a less than honorable discharge.
The constitution no longer matters to those in power. Play dirty, fight back and restore the constitution.
They lose freedom of speech when serving America?
Yes actually you do.
The Military is not a democracy for obvious reasons.
The world has gone mad. How many people go down to protect this criminal?
Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct
This code was in effect when I served in the early 70’s and I am sure long before that. There are serveral other codes that could have applied in this case.
What are the obvious reasons?
Yes. It is called the UCMJ. I was well aware of that when i was in the Corps and so was this guy. I despised Clinton but i kept my mouth shut when around people i didn’t trust. This guy was dumb enough to put it out there publicly.
Article 88 of the UCMJ applies to commissioned officers, not NCOs. This Sgt. can say whatever he wants, to whomever he wants, as long as he’s not in uniform.
It’s just more PC chickenshit from the higher-highers in my once proud and beloved Corps.
What are the obvious reasons?...You obey orders, not vote on them.
This guy knows the enemy - and some refuse to see what is obvious. His hands are clean - no matter what happens. Can't say the same for others who close their eyes to our nation being taken over by deception while 'obeying orders'. How can one NOT think or learn from history - Hilter.
This guy was dumb enough to put it out there publicly.
For HIS OWN SELF, yes - but this is about OUR COUNTRY. So he was thinking of our country and not himself. There is a word for that - PATRIOTIC.
Does that make null and void obeying their oath?
I agree the UCMJ is in place FOR A REASON....HOWEVER, when political correctness circumnavigates those restrictions for political gain..it opens the door .. Soldiers fought for freedom and gave those who were suppressed a voice...but those who gave their lives lost that voice the day they put the uniform on?
That was my original question. Some here say, yes. Seems it's all about obeying orders not their oath *according* to some.
You are correct....., but....
What if the Sergeant genuinely believes the President is ineligible...?
Then, should he still pay him the same honor due a legitimate President, especially since, he — as an American fighting man — has taken an oath to uphold the CONSTITUTION — and not those who UNDERMINE it?
Besides, if it turns out — and there is certainly at least that possibility, is there not — to have been ineligible, then will any of his orders during his usurped term(s) in office have been lawful?
These are not easy questions for anyone serving in the military at this time.
I give this NCO high marks for courage.....
Where is Senator Cornyn? Senator Hatch? John Boehner? These guys are not doing their jobs, in my opinion, by being Congressional “wallflowers” when it comes to standing up to the President.
Yes: He will be kicked out, but — I predict — with no prison sentence, because everyone knows that Obama — based on the documentation that he has presented to the public thus far — is quite possibly ineligible.
The Bill of Rights is the collective name for the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution..
our oath states we will defend this...
“When we assumed the soldier...we did not lay aside the citizen”..George Washington
The oath is to protect and uphold the Constitution. This is accomplished by obeying all lawful orders whether you like them or not.
I remember when the squadron I was in had some folks who refused to deploy because GWB was “selected, not elected”. They were given a choice: deploy to Saudi, or deploy to jail. They chose Saudi.
Military cohesion overrides free speech, The military protects democracy, but it does not practice it.
Lawful. How do you know what if it's lawful if you don't ask. Only a robotic mindset would.
whether you like them or not
This isn't about me but USA!
solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely
uphold the Constitution.
One has to 'assume' they are because they are 'told' to just obey. How is that for a great takeover.