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North Korea Says Interception Of Its Satellite Is An Act Of War
Korea Times ^ | April 6, 2012

Posted on 04/06/2012 8:59:05 AM PDT by Fennie

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has ratcheted up his regime's militaristic rhetoric as Pyongyang threatened to retaliate against any country that intercepts a North Korean rocket booster or collects the rocket debris.

The North has vowed to launch a rocket sometime between April 12 and 16 to put an earth observation satellite into orbit, a move widely seen as a pretext to disguise a banned test of its ballistic missile technology.

The Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of Korea in Pyongyang warned that interception of the satellite would be "an act of war" and would cause a tremendous catastrophe.

(Excerpt) Read more at koreatimes.co.kr ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: korea; northkorea; obama; satellite
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1 posted on 04/06/2012 8:59:18 AM PDT by Fennie
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To: Fennie

He does realize that if he does something really stupid, Pyongyang could be turned into a large glass bowl...right?

Right?


2 posted on 04/06/2012 9:02:11 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Fennie

I didn’t read the whole post just the caption and all I can say is Bring it Fata$$.


3 posted on 04/06/2012 9:04:17 AM PDT by Rappini (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: hoagy62

“He does realize that if he does something really stupid, Pyongyang could be turned into a large glass bowl...right?”

You realize that might be an improvement


4 posted on 04/06/2012 9:06:12 AM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: Fennie

I’m okay with that............


5 posted on 04/06/2012 9:06:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Fennie

Pretty funny. Draw a line in the sand that nobody cares about or notices, and then threaten them if they cross it.

Like father, like son.


6 posted on 04/06/2012 9:06:30 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Fennie

the “satellite” will never get off the ground, so why is he stressing about it


7 posted on 04/06/2012 9:06:54 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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"North Korea Says Interception Of Its Satellite Is An Act Of War"

Yeah, and whose midget army is going to fight it?

8 posted on 04/06/2012 9:07:27 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: hoagy62

The prospect of nuclear war with North Korea isn’t even funny. This guy isn’t even 30 and is said by some to be impetuous and impulsive youth. MAD deterrence only works on the assumption that both parties are rational, clear thinking and want to live, and I wouldn’t be quite so sure about the first two...


9 posted on 04/06/2012 9:11:11 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Enterprise

Skinny Midgets


10 posted on 04/06/2012 9:12:58 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: hoagy62

Considering if they had food to actually feed their army, they could be a threat...COULD is the keyword.


11 posted on 04/06/2012 9:14:55 AM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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To: InsidiousMongo

Is blowing it out of the freaking sky an act of war?


12 posted on 04/06/2012 9:16:58 AM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: jbwbubba
The North Koreans have been forced to eat grass and tree bark, with reports of some even eating their babies in order to avoid starvation. In the mid to late nineties hundreds of thousands of North Koreans died from starvation (see the book, "Nothing to Envy"). How is it that Kim Jong-un grew up as a fat, pasty kid in a nation of mass starvation? Quite an overt contrast that displays the problem, eh?
13 posted on 04/06/2012 9:26:58 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: InsidiousMongo

Didn’t we just send them 200 tons of food?


14 posted on 04/06/2012 9:26:58 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: jbwbubba
It would make for interesting headlines:

"Obama saves millions from starvation"

15 posted on 04/06/2012 9:28:38 AM PDT by norton (I will transmit this information to Vladimir.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

HA HA!


16 posted on 04/06/2012 9:30:01 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

I know. It isn’t funny at all. Never meant my comment to be funny.


17 posted on 04/06/2012 9:30:55 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: InsidiousMongo
North Korea is capable of producing and employing chemical weapons that virtually all the fire support systems in its inventory could deliver, including most of its artillery pieces, multiple rocket launchers (including those mounted on CHAHO-type boats), and mortars. Some bombs the Air Force employs also could deliver chemical agents, as could the FROG or the SCUD missile.

Chemicals could increase the impact of a surprise attack. If the North should use this option, it would have an advantage over forward-deployed South Korean and US forces. Nonpersistent chemical agents also could be used to break through defensive lines or hinder a South Korean counterattack's momentum. Persistent chemical agents could be used against fixed targets in the rear areas, such as command and control elements, major lines of communications, or logistic depots. Not only do these weapons enhance North Korea's offensive capabilities, but this chemical capability could deter South Korea or the United States from using chemicals during hostilities. In any attack on the South, Pyongyang could use chemical weapons to attack forces deployed near the DMZ, suppress allied airpower, and isolate the peninsula from strategic reinforcement.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/dprk/cw/index.html

18 posted on 04/06/2012 9:30:55 AM PDT by McGruff (Umm...I'm thinking.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

I know. It isn’t funny at all. Never meant my comment to be funny.


19 posted on 04/06/2012 9:31:13 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: driftdiver
It's unclear if the US will follow through with the shipment after the missile flies. My bet is, Secretary Cancels will agree to send “humane relief” anyway.
20 posted on 04/06/2012 9:31:53 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: Fennie

Guess he is “ronrey” too!


21 posted on 04/06/2012 9:32:15 AM PDT by petro45acp (NO good endeavour survives an excess of "adult supervision" (hence the American experiment))
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To: McGruff

Yes, all very true, but Pyongyang would be obliterated via air power along with any other command and control locations. The North has virtually no air power.


22 posted on 04/06/2012 9:41:36 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: hoagy62

Iran getting closer to the bomb and the most paranoid nuclear-armed nation in the world being run by a 29 year old. Talk about 2012 being the end of the world...


23 posted on 04/06/2012 9:43:48 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Red Badger
I’m okay with that............

Yea, me too. I've heard South Korea could use some more parking.

24 posted on 04/06/2012 9:46:49 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: McGruff

The US policy towards chemical and biological weapons is to respond to their deployment with nuclear weapons.

If the Norks use bio/chem then the US will have license to nuke them. It’s also looking like China won’t back them up this time.


25 posted on 04/06/2012 9:47:49 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: Fennie

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. That missile may just blow up on its own. If NK can’t confirm a defective missile, then what?


26 posted on 04/06/2012 9:48:36 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: cuban leaf
Pretty funny. Draw a line in the sand that nobody cares about or notices, and then threaten them if they cross it.

If I were Pres.... I'd have a conversation with some CIA folks. "The accident they are going to have should be on video tape of that "satelite" not getting more than 150' from the earth before it inexpicably blows up."

27 posted on 04/06/2012 9:49:33 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: Fennie; TigerLikesRooster; Pan_Yan

firing a missile over another country could also be considered an act of war.


28 posted on 04/06/2012 9:53:32 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Obadiah

In the mid-90’s some 3 million died of starvation. They also stopped distributing the food rations to the masses.

Since then the average NorK citizen knows not to trust the government too much, those who do are more likely to die of starvation. The black market is now a necessity of life.


29 posted on 04/06/2012 9:56:37 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL
If I were the American president I would go ahead and intercept it. I would then say I had did it alone without any help from South Korea. It was an American action alone. I would tell North Korea that their fight was with us. I would then encourage them to build an invasion fleet, load their army up, sail across the Pacific and then attempt to land said army on our shores. I would even guarantee to not sink every last one of them while they sailed. They could then land on our beaches an we could go toe to toe, mano y mano. Lets see what type of fight they really have. Then they could fight a real war for once without the threat of millions of Chicom soldiers to bail their scrawny butts out. Then he could know what declaration of war really is instead of lobbing artillery shells into an open city. They wouldn't even be able to scrounge up enough food for their army to complete the one way trip. But perhaps he could be the great leader he believes he is and lead them into battle. In one day problem would be solved.
30 posted on 04/06/2012 10:04:45 AM PDT by lynn4303
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To: lynn4303; TigerLikesRooster

bump

The Kim regime, and Kim3 is no different, is only in power as long he saves face to his own serfs. Since they tightly control all news and info, nothing that happens will reach those serfs.

Any NK trangression but be met by cruise missiles striking Commie Party, military and government buildings in Pyongyang, TV and radio stations and the palaces. Let the response be something that the serfs can see and silently rejoice in. Let them try and claim a victory when their own buildings are in rubble.

Let them pretend that nothing happened when the only broadcasts on their frequencies are coming from South Korea with the truth!

We don’t need to kill their soldiers, those aren’t the true enemies. The true enemies are the little man/fat boy and the generals. You could collapse that regime so easily in response to any attack, take out those buildings, take out some bridges, let the serfs see how helpless Kim3 and the regime is.


31 posted on 04/06/2012 10:13:16 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Fennie.
The North has vowed to launch a rocket sometime between April 12 and 16 to put an earth observation satellite into orbit...

32 posted on 04/06/2012 10:26:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: GeronL
One shot, 1200 feet above Pyong Yang, while the dufuses are watching a parade of goose steppers.
I think that would do it.
33 posted on 04/06/2012 10:28:26 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: Obadiah

Kim Jong-un grew up attending boarding school in Switzerland.


34 posted on 04/06/2012 10:36:50 AM PDT by LouD (I stand with Scott Walker)
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To: hoagy62

Could be, but won’t be, and he knows it.Zero certainly isn’t going to nuke anybody.


35 posted on 04/06/2012 10:45:15 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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Click!

Donate to Free Republic.

36 posted on 04/06/2012 10:48:09 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Fennie
Related:

Analysis shows NKorea near to launch

SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea may have moved the first stage of a rocket to a launch stand, indicating it is on schedule for a controversial mid-April launch, according to a new analysis of satellite images.

The rocket isn't visible at the Tongchang-ri site, but an analysis provided to The Associated Press by the U.S.-Korea Institute at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies says evidence suggests the first stage may be in the launch stand’s closed gantry, a support frame, ahead of the launch planned for April 12-16.

That evidence, seen by the institute in satellite photos taken Wednesday, includes an apparent completion of fueling activity, with most of the empty fuel and oxidizer tanks removed from buildings supplying the first stage; a new barricade for vehicles on the road to the pad, indicating higher security; and the removal of objects near the gantry and a clean-up of the launch pad.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hfmJrIx2fZqxWQnjWuAXKk9TeGow?docId=77f816c021e445739eec22447e1945d6

37 posted on 04/06/2012 10:52:29 AM PDT by mojito
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To: Obadiah

True that they have little air power, but I can remember Vietnam. Air power is essential, but it isn’t everything.


38 posted on 04/06/2012 10:55:22 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Fennie

This is why we need a laser system that can strike from many miles away, perhaps even orbital. No one would know why their toy went boom.


39 posted on 04/06/2012 11:09:00 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: hoagy62

Unfortunately so would Seoul.


40 posted on 04/06/2012 11:10:02 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: MeganC
"The US policy towards chemical and biological weapons is to respond to their deployment with nuclear weapons."

There is a Boomer in the North Pacific at all times, on alert.

Most Emergency Action Messages are drills for nuking North Korea. The contingency plans are for a massive strike of every city and every military installation simultaneously. Very, very little of North Korea would remain.

41 posted on 04/06/2012 11:11:39 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MeganC
If the Norks use bio/chem then the US will have license to nuke them.

One little hitch in your statement, the current occupant of the White Hut.

42 posted on 04/06/2012 11:15:46 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: Fennie

North Korea is being as clear as a bell with this. A few days ago, 3 or 4 Nork submarines, left their bases, almost certainly along the route the ballistic missile is intended to take, likely also with orders that if a ship fires on the missile, to attack it.

http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20120405p2g00m0in095000c.html

Additional information:

At 370 tons submerged, the Sang-O class submarine has two 533mm torpedo tubes fitted with Russian 53-65KE torpedoes, and is capable of mine laying.

The 53-65 torpedo family are Russian made, wake-homing torpedoes designed to destroy surface ships. The 53-65KE is the exported version.

Instead of using active or passive homing as other torpedoes do, the 53-65 torpedoes use wake homing, which, upon finding the wake of a ship, turns to follow the wake to guide itself to the ship. The torpedoes have no way of telling which way the target ship is headed when they reach the wake, so they aren’t as effective as other means of homing.

To date, there have been no reports of a countermeasure that can confuse these torpedoes, making them very successful when they do home on to a ship.

Thus, I highly recommend to the US Navy that their guided missile ships in position to shoot down the Nork missile must have anti-sub assets available, and if they intend to shoot at the missile, to blow the Nork submarine out of the water FIRST.

Any and every Nork submarine at sea should be considered imminently hostile right now and subject to attack without notice.


43 posted on 04/06/2012 11:23:59 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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To: Fennie; All
Ahhhh c'mon Fennie, this story can't be true, doesn't anyone remember that North Korea became our Partner for Peace in the Far East after former President George W. Bush REMOVED them from the State Department's list of terrorist supporting nations in late 2008?

Pyongyang is our pal, and so is Iran, after all does anyone think that GWB would have let the other two legs of that 'Axis of Evil' go scot free unless they had mended their ways? Of COURSE not.

I'm just not buyin' this militaristic hostility against a peace loving little nation who just wants to join other nations in the exploration of space.

[do I REALLY need a 'sarc' tag here?]
44 posted on 04/06/2012 11:24:49 AM PDT by mkjessup (0bama squats to pee.)
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To: Drill Thrawl

No chit. I don’t even think they still carry around the football.


45 posted on 04/06/2012 11:41:14 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: taxcontrol
This is why we need a laser system that can strike from many miles away, perhaps even orbital. No one would know why their toy went boom.

Check this out

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/abl/

46 posted on 04/06/2012 11:44:30 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: Mariner
"The US policy towards chemical and biological weapons is to respond to their deployment with nuclear weapons."

The policy used to be we will not retaliate in kind meaning if you use any weapon of mass destruction we could respond with the same or with nukes. The nuke threat was enough to keep the average knuckleheads in check. I'm not really sure what policy is now.

47 posted on 04/06/2012 11:51:44 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: Fennie; TigerLikesRooster; GeronL; Mariner; AmericanInTokyo; All
Some people here seem to think North Korea is not a threat. That is a major mistake. We underestimate the power of the North Korean military at our peril.

In the last two decades, our military has not had to deal with a traditional military opponent; we've been dealing with an insurgency and/or tribal warfare where we could buy allies or get a reputation as honest brokers by simply acting the way America always has acted by helping people improve their own lives rather than trying to be a colonial empire. The first Gulf War wasn't really a contest between traditional military forces; even before the collapse of the Iraqi military following the invasion of Kuwait, the Iraqi regular army and Republican Guard were mismanaged at best by a civilian, Saddam Hussein, who terrified his generals and didn't understand much about military strategy.

A serious shooting war with North Korea would not be a minor problem. They have one of the world's largest armies, and their training is at such a vicious level that our technological sophistication isn't necessarily as much of a problem for them as would be the case, for example, in a war with China or Russia.

Even if the North Koreans completely fell apart after a few weeks or months of fighting, we would be dealing with hundreds of thousands and quite likely millions of casualties not just in North Korea but also in Seoul, huge evacuations or refugee flights likely to exceed ten million people, massive worldwide economic disturbances (imagine the effect if Samsung, Hyundai, Kia, and similar companies were unable to fulfill orders for just a few months, let alone if they ceased to exist), and the very real possibility that China would decide to start doing very bad things by threatening to cause even more destruction to the American economy if we didn't settle things in Korea according to their liking.

The Kim dynasty in North Korea is not only evil but quite possibly insane. We cannot assume they will act rationally, or that the senior officials have enough knowledge about the outside world to even understand what kind of risks they are taking — or to care.

The only good thing about a North Korean invasion is that I'm much more confident in the power of the South Korean military — in which I have several relatives now serving — to fight back in ways that we won't, especially if they're attacked first.

The South Korean Army trains to fight on their own soil, they have a level of technological sophistication equal to any other major Western military, they have a level of training intensity superior to virtually all pro-US military forces with the exception of the Israelis and the Turks, and especially in a shooting war on their own soil, they're willing to do things that we won't do.

Let's just say nobody in the North Korean military or political leadership wants to still be living if the South Koreans get their hands on them during a shooting war that kills hundreds of thousands if not millions of people in Seoul, Inchon, and other major South Korean cities. There are reasons why the North Vietnamese and the Viet Cong feared the South Korean soldiers who fought with the Americans during the Vietnam War. It's not just the North Koreans who can be cruel and merciless.

48 posted on 04/06/2012 12:22:32 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: hoagy62

That kinda depends on who has their finger on the trigger, doesn’t it?


49 posted on 04/06/2012 12:27:11 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: darrellmaurina

war is heck, yes, we got it


50 posted on 04/06/2012 12:32:14 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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