Skip to comments.Does Romney have a 14-Million-Man Army ready for General Election? (Vanity)
Posted on 04/06/2012 10:54:37 AM PDT by no dems
Another FReeper, in another posted comment, just this week, stated that his Mormon neighbor was obsessed with getting a Mormon, Mitt Romney, elected President of the United States. That statement has "stuck in my craw" ever since I read it; which begs to question:
If Mitt Romney is the GOP Nominee for POTUS, will the 14 million Mormons in the U.S. mobilize for him during the General Election? Hmmmmm....... Just wondering. The Mormon Church not only has a lot of "foot soldiers", but they know how to "mobilize". They've done it for decades.
Do not underestimate RINO-Rom in the GE. He's hungry. He's been running for the White House for 6 years. He, and the LDS Church have mega bucks. The Marriott Hotel Chain, for example, is a Mormon corporation; just to name one. And, the Primary season proved he will stoop to anything to win. Unlike McCain, he just might be capable of getting as "down and dirty" as the DemocRATS. And, I must say, it's kinda refreshing to see a Pubbie who will not bend over for the street-wise Dems like most Republicans do. Maybe there are some 'nads inside the "Magic Underwear".
My God, do you people think its just about the person behind the desk? Does the names Bill Ayers, George Soros, Cass Sunstein, Van Jones, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and the rest of the communist loving radicals he surrounds himself with and admires mean anything to you?
Blacks for the black, mormons for the mormon, latinos for the latino, etc., etc.
Yep, just what this country needs more of.
....Liberals for Liberals, Conservatives for Conservatives, Evangelicals for Evangelicals, SoCons for SoCons......
Yep; amazing isn’t it how people vote for a member of a group they identify with. If that ain’t the damndest thing.
LOL! I'm with you. I will do all I can to get that disgrace out of the white house.
Nobody reads that young epistle you keep posting. Give it a friggin’ break.
Now, tell us how you reconcile voting for Romney with that statement.
So, were you for Obama in 08 as well?
I voted for McCain, Dole and Bush 41 twice. I will not, however, vote for Romney.
Bill Clinton has a more conservative record than Romney and isn't any bigger a liar or flip-flopper. And, you think it moves conservatism forward by voting for someone like that?
Romney vs. Obama isn't about right or wrong or conservatism or liberalism. It's simply Republican vs. Democrat.
And, help put an equal disgrace in that will set back the conservative movement at least decade. Brilliant!
Are you saying you don’t want them campaigning?
Hell no? How, out of 50 posts to this thread are you the only one who came up with that idea? I don’t care if a spaceship from Mars lands with 2 million aliens to campaign for ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!!!
In that case, all 14 million of them can vote for him. He’s sure not getting me.
What’s “amazing” is that some are incapable of differentiating between a values based identity derived from morals originating with the Constitution and the Bible vs. the color of a person’s skin or their religion as an “identity”.
Voting for or supporting someone solely because they’re the same skin color or religion is what I was referring to.
That’s “identity politics” as I understand it.
Thanks. And, I love your tagline.
When I say “morality over money”.... we’re talking issues like abortion and same-sex marriage being more important to me than Entitlements. We’re not sure how Consevatively moral Romney is, but we know how Liberally immoral B. Hussein Obama is. He is the most despicable person to ever occupy the Oval Office. And, I say again: I’d vote for a 3-legged, one-eyed, sh** eating dog before I’d vote for Obama. And, a “non-vote” or Third Party vote is a vote for Obama.
If Romney's Mormon faith can mobilize a huge GOTV effort by 14 million Mormons for Republicans, we should welcome it.
Everything must be left on the field, not the sidelines if Obama's to be denied a second term.
And, help put an equal disgrace in that will set back the conservative movement at least decade. Brilliant!
First of all, the “Conservative Movement” doesn’t need any friggin’ help being “set back”. We do well enough ourselves without any help. Where are the “good” Conservative candidates? Where the hell is Sarah Palin, Jim DeMint, Paul Ryan.....? Huh? No, We got stuck with a bunch of losers, AGAIN, who have now been winnowed down to “Kook-Daddy” and the Three Stooges.
So, you think Romney is as equally disgraceful as Obama? If you really believe that you are either just ignorant or delusional. I choose to think it’s the former. So, IF YOU WOULD NOT MAKE STATEMENTS LIKE THAT, PEOPLE WOULDN’T KNOW JUST HOW IGNORANT YOU REALLY ARE.
That’s an insult to all the 3-legged sh** eating dogs in this country.
You believe that and you're going to vote for the father of gay marriage? Someone that was rabidly pro-abortion in the state of Massachusetts? Someone that attended Planned Parenthood fundraisers? Someone that, as CEO of the Olympic committee in 2002 sought to discriminate against the Boy Scouts because they wouldn't allow homosexual scoutmasters? Someone that put homosexual activist lawyers on courts in Massachusetts?
You're going to be voting for someone whose goal is to eliminate social conservatism from the GOP platform?
Thanks for bringing me back to re-read the comments on this thread.
I “get it” now, it’s a pro-Romney love fest.
Count me out, thanks.
In that case, all 14 million of them can vote for him. Hes sure not getting me.
Well then, stay home or vote Third Party. Nobody gives a sh** what you do.
Oh man that is good.
You are so very correct. Thanks.
Count me out, thanks.
You didn’t need to tell us to do that; we did already. Now, go on over to the DU with the other B. Hussein Obama supporters and Marxist Muslims.
Well Mr. WillamofCarmichael ... I am a Mormon and spent 2 years as a missionary in South Africa and Zimbabwe ..... I have taught hundreds of Blacks ...
....and frankly I have no Idea what “racism” your talking about!
.... sorry I guess I just taught LDS (Christ’s) Doctrine and not your anti-mormon slander of what you think that the LDS church believes.
.... On second thought you may want to switch your news coverage to NBC .... they love to paint racism where it doesn’t fit just like you do!
I would too.
I am not voting for Romney because he is 2-legged, sh** eating dog.
Even though a Romney victory would effectively cause the extinction of the conservative wing of the Republican Party? If Romney wins the general election, all you will hear for the next 4-5 Presidential election cycles is that "we have to run a moderate to win" using the Romney victory as evidence. That is not a price I'm willing to pay for the small improvement of replacing Obama with Romney.
And, a non-vote or Third Party vote is a vote for Obama.
Enough of this sophistry! Any conservative in a solidly red or blue state can vote their conscience without having any effect on the outcome. My state is so red that if Romney needs my vote to win, he is on the bad end of a historical landslide.
We? Are you kidding?
You may not know but we KNOW Romney is not now or has he ever been conservative.
The last bastion of a person who finds themselves on the losing end of a discussion, ad hominems. Interestingly enough, it was played just like a petulant and peurile pro-Romney sycophant.
You would try and force me and others to compromise our conservative values and principles to support a known; pro-abort, anti-2nd Amendment, big government, so-called Republican via the liberal tactic of using ad-hominems?
I think not, you have more work ahead of you if you think principled people are going to be cowed by your lame attempts to denigrate otherwise right thinking people.
A Romney presidency will do more to destroy conservatism in this country (and any conservative Republicans) than 0bama and his minions could ever hope to do.
As to your “direction”, I’ll leave you little Romney love birds to your RINO lovefest. Kissy, kissy.
Not a student of your own mormon history are you teppe?
“My state is so red that if Romney needs my vote to win, he is on the bad end of a historical landslide.”
He may well be. I think he will lose some southern states that would have supported ANY of the other GOP candidates.
I too was a political activist in my younger days. In fact, I recall when 95 percent of those who voted for Clinton the first time told me they would not vote to re-elect him. Yet somehow he was re-elected.
Since your name is “no dems”, if Romney is the Republican nominee, isn’t it a GOOD thing if the Mormons mobilize to help Romney beat Obama, the democrat?
Ever wonder why they put a word in quotes?
Are you aware that leftists are quoting Brigham Young in their attacks on Romney.. you must be because you reference NBC. Romney will be explaining some things to his lefty critics.
When Mitt bragged how his dad George Romney walked out of the 1964 convention -- along with the other Rockefeller Republicans -- to protest Barry Goldwater's racism there were no quotes used to bracket racism. (Though I heard a recoding of Mitt telling the story, I have not seen his text of the story.)
Rockefeller, Scranton, Romney, et al. backed the liberals' lies that Goldwater and us Goldwater supporters were racists (w/o the quotes). My point: it's get even time. But I will of course vote for Romney.
Romney’s style of vigorously attacking his primary opponents are unlikely to work against Obama for three reasons:
1 - How can Romney attack Obama with sincerity or conviction when Romney’s politics and policies as governor of Massachusetts are basis for Obama’s?
2 - Obama not only survived the Clinton slime machine, he turned Hollywood and the MSM against the Clinton’s.
3 - Romney is culturally tone-deaf.
Did they mobilize for Harry Reid?
I love how they tell us they’re perfectly normal, just like any other Christians, but then show a massive bias and favoritism to one of their own. If they’re no different than other Christians, then what is so special about their Mormon candidate over any other Christian? Note that you don’t see Catholics or evangelicals block voting just for candidates of their faith, because they genuinely are mainstream people with mainstream, traditional, American beliefs. When you have 98% of the Mormons voting as a block for the Mormon candidate, they’re telling us they see themselves as different from the rest of us, which tells me that they ARE different from the rest of us.
One of the very foundations of mormonism teaches racism, for you to say you know of none is well......a stretch.
Maybe I should have you talk to my uncle the bishop......
We've been discussing this on some other threads. I'm passing on some of the sections of the BOM to a buddy of mine who's black.
He's not aware of the actual text so I've asked him to read the excepts and then read the BOM to verify the context of the quotes. I've asked him to let me know if I'm overreacting to what my son and I have learned in attempting to learn more about their "faith".
He's pretty much a genius so I'm betting he'll read the whole book before he gets back to me. He's brilliant at digesting and processing facts. I'm deeply interested in hearing his response on all of this.
I can ping you when he lets me know.
Who cares? One way or the other, it's Obamney. Whoever wins, conservatives lose. The long-term damage of a Romney candidacy is probably greater than 4 more years of Obama. If the GOP succeeds with a liberal, that's where they're going to move and that's all we're going to get for as long as they can control the party. If they fail after Newt and Rick explicitly said time and again that a moderate candidate would, conservatives should get a big boost in credibility in 2014 and 2016.
Obama’s people won’t have to address Romney’s Mormonism. This will be done by horrified black Conservatives who supported Bush, as well as Texas conservatives who don’t like having to pay $20 million for the cleanup of Utah’s FLDS mess, not to mention Christians still sore about the Romney people’s take-down of Sarah Palin during the final days of the 2008 election. Hatch is right to anticipate Romney’s faith becoming an issue this election. But it won’t be from the Dems.
“And, the Primary season proved he will stoop to anything to win. Unlike McCain, he just might be capable of getting as “down and dirty” as the DemocRATS.”
My biggest fear about Romney, all along, is that I feared he didn’t have the stones to do what is going to be required to defeat Obama, the Media, and the whackjob internet left. It’s why my pocket has been supporting Gingrich.
But, in the last month or so, I have been cautiously hopeful that Mr. Nice Guy has it in him to go there.
“CAN MITT ROMNEY SERVE TWO MASTERS?”
And yet, know one asks, “CAN OBAMA SERVE HIS TWO MASTERS?” Karl Marx and Allah?
>> Most ex-Mormons who I know will not vote for Romney under any circumstance, including Obama seeking re-election.
> Why? The religion, the liberalism or the man? Just curious.
The religion first and foremost, and secondly the fact Mitt cannot be divorced from it. Mormonism is Romney’s core. This is in contrast to Huntsman, who some ex-Mormons give a pass to, arguing Huntsman is Mormon in the same way Nancy Pelosi is Catholic.
Of course the ex-Mormons who are now Christian (many are atheist or agnostic) also will not vote for Romney because of his liberalism, whereas those who became atheist/agnostic tend to be Democrat and won’t vote for Romney because of his perceived social conservatism.
This race reminds me an aweful lot of a Canadian election that took place in the province of Ontario about five years ago. Ontario had been run by a real conservative (Mike Harris) who went soft in his last few years (like GW Bush), and left office early during his second term to be replaced by Ernie Eves, a CINO whose reputation among grass-roots conservatives was not unlike McCain’s. Of course Eves lost the election to an Obama-esque liberal with a Nancy Pelosi personality named Dalton McGuinty, who proceeded to destroy the province in much the same way that Obama has done the U.S.
McGuinty was extremely unpopular come election time.
Yet the Red Tories (aka Rich Establishment Republicans) seized the Conservative Party machinery to run John Tory - an extremely wealthy, anti-social conservative and anti-gun rights, big business patsy from the province’s most liberal area. The guy was completely out of touch with the middle class, as well as the conservative base, gun owners, and Christians. He had worked hard to marginalize and diminish their influence in the party. His thinking and that of the party establishment was as follows: McGuinty was so far to the left and so unpopular that come the election, conservatives would have no choice but to swallow hard and vote for John Tory as the only alternative to McGuinty. Of course the Red Tory establishment put John Tory forward as the only candidate that was “electable”, “moderate” - and cited heavily his corporate experience as proof he could manage the province.
What actually happened during the election is that most conservatives stayed home, or voted fourth party. McGuinty was re-elected, but grass-roots conservatives were then able to take the party back from the Red Tory establishment.
SLC’s billions will be canceled out by Hollywood’s billions for Obama.
A second term for Obama loses its threat or meaningfulness among conservatives when the Republican alternative is no different. What has Obama done as president that Romney did not already do as governor of Massachusetts?
You’re right, we should just give up and wait ‘till 2016.
I admire your sunny optimism no end.
At the presidential level, yes. However, there is still much conservatives can do this election as far as activism and donations are concerned:
1 - Support conservative candidates down ballot who have a shot of winning local, county, state or federal office.
2 - At the presidential level, a vote for a third party or write-in candidate at least sends a message that you are not satisfied with choosing Romney vs. Obama.
3 - Educate other like-minded voters on the important of not choosing between “the lesser of two evils” but standing true to one’s principles.
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