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N.Y. parents want to ban ice cream trucks
sfgate ^ | Apr 02 at 2:04 pm | Posted By: Amy Graff

Posted on 04/06/2012 12:51:37 PM PDT by dennisw

Mom wanted to be kept anonymous for fear of being ostracized by friends, said there’s a group of parents in Park Slope who are trying to get the trucks banned. But this mom doesn’t agree. “People just need to say no,” “I say no to him all the time, and I feel his wrath. But he needs to hear that no.”

Pushcarts and trucks selling everything from Italian ice to Nestle Drumsticks begin circling the park’s Harmony Playground in the spring. For some parents getting their kids a cone come April is a tradition, but a few members of the Park Slope Parents online group just wish the ice cream trucks would go away. These parents are tired of listening to children cry, scream and throw tantrums when they’re denied a sugary ice cream.

“Along with the first truly beautiful day of the year, my son and I had our first ruined day at the playground,” A member of the group named Sarah wrote. “Two different people came into the actual playground with ice cream/Italian ice push carts. I was able to avoid it for a little while but eventually I left with a crying 4-year-old.”

Mom Sarah Schenck shared : “Nobody wants to be a crank, but one in three kids are going to be obese or diabetic by high school,” she said. “When my kids see other kids get ice cream, they just start begging me. I just don’t think these are the fights we should be having.”

You’re constantly saying, “No!” or “only one candy,” or “just one piece.” I’ve listened to the loud, obnoxious cries of a 4-year-old who’s denied a Popsicle at the park. Just about any child psychologist will tell you that if you ignore your child’s whining and screams, he will eventually

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To: dennisw

I still remember how mad my Mom was with my Aunt when she showed my sister and I what the noisy truck was for!


21 posted on 04/06/2012 1:18:19 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: dennisw

BAN IT is always their very first choice, isn’t it? So many teaching moments are lost. Why not tell the child that they can have a treat every 5th visit to the park? Give them a coupon or chit of some sort to represent each park visit and when they have saved up enough they can turn them in for a treat. They learn to save, to be patient, to keep track of the coupons, to look forward to a treat with mom, to follow rules. There are more creative choices than just “NO” or “YES” or “BAN IT”. Any tantrum should initiate an immediate return home and a canceled park visit.


22 posted on 04/06/2012 1:19:44 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: Anima Mundi

Ban or regulate or tax or two out of three.


23 posted on 04/06/2012 1:23:11 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Tax-chick
However, I do with our city would ban the obnoxious electronic music, or issue citations under current public-nuisance statutes.

I'm with you there.

We have one truck in the neighborhood, and he plays the same tune over and over and over and over and over again all season long. Just as he gets far enough that I can barely hear it, he starts on his way back.

By about July, I'm ready to run out there with a baseball bat and beat his "music" generator into a billion little pieces.

But I'd probably buy an ice cream from him after that. ;)
24 posted on 04/06/2012 1:24:50 PM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: dennisw; Morgana

These are the bad parents you see on TV who are controlled by the kids as teens.


25 posted on 04/06/2012 1:26:24 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Tanniker Smith

I never did understand Park Slope, with all those stunted little buildings.


26 posted on 04/06/2012 1:26:51 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: dennisw

Give Moochelle enough time and they will only be allowed to sell pickles from the ice cream truck.

(very, very sour dills..)


27 posted on 04/06/2012 1:27:25 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Anima Mundi

Anyone who has worked in a psychology lab knows you are just strengthening the response with this method.


28 posted on 04/06/2012 1:29:22 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: dennisw

Just had a thought...

I wonder if it’s illegal to sell beer out of a vending truck.

Bet you could make a mint on a hot August Saturday with a truck full of cold brewskis.

Maybe play DLR’s ‘Ice Cream Man’ to let the adults know you’re coming.


29 posted on 04/06/2012 1:30:07 PM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: molson209

Bet those LongJohns would be extremely popular in San Fransicko....


30 posted on 04/06/2012 1:30:07 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: dennisw

I don’t believe this; but if true, I hope the kids rise up.


31 posted on 04/06/2012 1:33:59 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: firebrand
You mean like the landmarked brownstones?

Parts of Park Slope are getting the seven-story condo treatment anyway. Say goodbye to your view of the harbor and the Statue of Liberty.

32 posted on 04/06/2012 1:34:10 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: GeronL

What tune does the, ahem, “ice cream truck” that sells those special long johns play, I wonder?

Anything by The Village People, maybe? Hmm?


33 posted on 04/06/2012 1:35:03 PM PDT by MarineDad (Wherever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits)
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To: MarineDad

lol.

Good question.

Lots of possibilities.


34 posted on 04/06/2012 1:38:40 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Joke. I actually like the little two- and three-story deformities. I pity them.


35 posted on 04/06/2012 1:39:58 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: chrisser

We have one truck that comes through the neighborhood playing an electronic version of “Three Blind Mice”. Fortunately he drives at about 30 MPH and no one has a chance to get money and catch him. The noise only lasts a couple minutes.


36 posted on 04/06/2012 1:47:40 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: HerrBlucher
When I was a kid the Ice cream man sold psilocybin and acid, in addition to fudgecicles, twin pops, and long johns.

SillyCy? Through the years I have read of ice cream guys busted for selling marijuana on the side to the kiddies

37 posted on 04/06/2012 1:48:19 PM PDT by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: dennisw

And those kids with their whining and crying at the Toys-R-Us make me want to outlaw toys too.

Is there nothing that government can't do to make our lives better? < /s>

38 posted on 04/06/2012 1:51:56 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: firebrand

Well use a variable ratio schedule. I have worked in a psychology lab. The object is not to get a child to never want a reward of ice cream. The tantrum is never rewarded. The waiting, saving response is being rewarded.There is consistency because the child knows that there is no possibility of getting the ice cream except at certain set points. It parallels saving up for something which is a good behavior pattern as opposed to you just yell for it and get it right then. In any case, my point is not specifically to do this or that, rather that there are MANY ceative ways to deal with a situation outside of yes, no, and remove the stimulus. As I offered, just take your child home at the first peep, each and every time and the behavior will extinguish. Of course it is always possible that the mom wants to be at the park to socialize more than the child does and that the child would actually RATHER be home playing electronic games. But can’t people modulate and figure out these things, each in the way that works for their situation and family?


39 posted on 04/06/2012 1:54:02 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: R. Scott; chrisser

The one here sometimes plays Christmas songs, from April to October.

I suppose they’re running by the Daylight Saving Time schedule, because it’s here already, showing up after supper as we’re getting the children ready to go to bed. I think we must be the only people who make their children go to bed at a sensible hour.


40 posted on 04/06/2012 2:05:45 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Love means to give absolutely everything." ~ Dominik Cdl. Duka)
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