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Gingrich keeps campaigning - and keeps drawing an audience
CBS News ^ | April 7, 2012 | Lindsey Boerma

Posted on 04/07/2012 4:39:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

MILLSBORO, Del. - At 7 p.m. on Thursday, in the back shed of a firehouse, a presidential candidate who continually concedes he's unlikely to capture the Republican nomination held a rally - and 350 people showed up.

Earlier, Newt Gingrich spoke to more than 150 people in nearby Magnolia. And a day earlier, he greeted a sold-out auditorium that seats more than 400 at the UniversityofNorthCarolina-Wilmington.

The Republicans who come to Gingrich's campaign events, signs in hand and ready to offer standing ovations, are under no illusions that the former House speaker is going to overtake Mitt Romney to become to Republican nominee. In fact, many say they're ready to support Romney if he gets the nomination as expected.

For now, they just like hearing what Gingrich has to say.

"I love the guy," said Linda Creasy of Lewes, Del. "I'd love to see him in there. I think he's the smartest; I think he has the most to offer. He just doesn't have the most money."

....After the speech, Sussex County Republican Party spokesman Duke Brooks said he'll vote for Gingrich in the Apr. 24 Delaware primary. "There's no question about it,"...

Asked whether he holds out hope that his candidate will somehow become that nominee,.."Mathematically, it seems not." But..he finds "interesting" Gingrich's argument that however unlikely, a win in Delaware could reverberate in larger states such as North Carolina and Texas.

"Even if we still can't get the nomination, we roll into.. Tampa with a brokered convention in the offing," Brooks said. "And if we do that, in the long run I think that can only be good for the party because it's going to flesh out a lot of ideas, and a lot of people are going to pay attention to it."

That's Gingrich's message as well...

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To: exit82
"What is interesting about Newt is that he can explain the complex in very simple terms, with uncommon ease. workers, salt of the earth.

I knew a lot of the folks in that crowd of 350, and they are all kinds of people—farmers, police, factory workers, housewives, professionals, officials, etc.—they had no problem understanding Newt and responding to him.

The real problem lies in breaking through the template the media and the GOP have relentlessly promoted about Newt—the “baggage” if you will—and I think a lot of our folks went for Santorum because he is somehow “cleaner” than Newt-—but Newt is far and away the only one who would be fearless in taking on Obama.

It is up to conservatives in the states that have voted yet to change that direction. Only half the states have held their primaries."

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Great post "exit82!"

This could clear up the political baggage. God has forgiven Newt his social baggage.

Does Ryan Now Agree with Gingrich? [And now, here's the REST of the story] “There is a perception lingering about NewtGingrich that he was a critic of PaulRyan's budget plan and therefore a critic of conservative fiscal policy in the House of Representatives. Is that conclusion true? Or is it an oversimplification? Like many misconceptions floating around during a heated political season, it is not true. Let's examine the facts.

On April 5, 2011, Representative PaulRyan, the HouseBudgetCommittee chairman, introduced the Republican budget for 2012. Included in that budget was a premium support model for Medicare. This budget was based on a similar plan previously laid out by Ryan called TheRoadmapforAmerica'sFuture. That document had been a RepublicanParty policy call to change the budget and put it on sound fiscal grounds compared to the Democrats' unwillingness to budget at all and tax and spend into infinity. The Harry Reid-run Senate has not passed a budget for over three years, even though they are required to by law.

Gingrich praised the Ryan plan in an article in Human Events on April 13. He called it the most serious attempt by an elected official to rethink our public finances and the modern welfare state in a generation. That is quite a compliment from a former speaker of the House to a current committee chairman. Using a golfing metaphor, Gingrich celebrated the plan, calling it a Ryan "eagle." Is that comparison a negative critique, or is it commendation? One week later, on April 20, Gingrich in the same space heaped more praise on the plan. He compared PaulRyan to PaulRevere, one of our nation's great heroes, and compared the Ryan Medicare plan with his own previous welfare reform. Why would he disparage something he would compare to one of his greatest achievements? Gingrich later said he would have voted for the plan if he had had the opportunity......”

Video: Newt Rips Gore's 'Facts' To Pieces 2009 Newt testifying on Climate Change before Congress.

Jan 24, 2012 - Byron York, Chief Political Correspondent, Washington Examiner: What really happened in the Gingrich ethics case? “The Romney campaign has been hitting Newt Gingrich hard over the 1990s ethics case that resulted in the former Speaker being reprimanded and paying a $300,000 penalty. Before the Iowa caucuses, Romney and his supporting super PAC did serious damage to Gingrich with an ad attacking Gingrich's ethics past. Since then, Romney has made other ads and web videos focusing on the ethics matter, and at the Republican debate in Tampa Monday night, Romney said Gingrich "had to resign in disgrace."

In private conversations, Romney aides often mention the ethics case as part of their larger argument that Gingrich would be unelectable in a race against President Obama.

Given all the attention to the ethics matter, it's worth asking what actually happened back in 1995, 1996, and 1997. The Gingrich case was extraordinarily complex, intensely partisan, and driven in no small way by a personal vendetta on the part of one of Gingrich's former political opponents. It received saturation coverage in the press; a database search of major media outlets revealed more than 10,000 references to Gingrich's ethics problems during the six months leading to his reprimand. It ended with a special counsel hired by the House Ethics Committee holding Gingrich to an astonishingly strict standard of behavior, after which Gingrich in essence pled guilty to two minor offenses. Afterwards, the case was referred to the Internal Revenue Service, which conducted an exhaustive investigation into the matter. And then, after it was all over and Gingrich was out of office, the IRS concluded that Gingrich did nothing wrong. After all the struggle, Gingrich was exonerated.

I wrote about the matter at the time, first in a 1995 article about Gingrich's accusers and then in a 1999 piece on the Internal Revenue Service report that cleared Gingrich. (Both pieces were for The American Spectator; I'm drawing on them extensively, but unfortunately neither is available online.)

And here is a good bonus article:

The GE Years: What Made Reagan Reagan [Newt said this book explained Ronald Reagan's leadership]

51 posted on 04/07/2012 7:44:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

You got Newt mixed up with your Lil Martian.


52 posted on 04/07/2012 7:46:58 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: napscoordinator

That is NOT because of Mitt. Newt is a stark contrast to Mitt.

The two wasting the Primary campaign oxygen are Rick and the Nut. If the contrast was between Mitt and Newt, Mitt would only have support from the GOPe. Now because of the muddied up waters by half baked conservatism and libertarianism, Newt’s clear common sense conservatism is hidden.


53 posted on 04/07/2012 8:02:03 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: sirchtruth

It’s obvious Newt has the most foresight. What needs to happen, which I think will, is Newt needs to show up at the convention and just smack the HAMMER down on the establishment. I mean raise total Cain! Make it a raucous, contentious in your face political brawl!
Mitt is going to be a disaster no matter what, there is no way conservatives are going to rally behind the doofus.

**

Amen. Newt needs to point to Romney and say, “THIS is what you want? Are you kidding me?? Let me draw some contrasts ... “


54 posted on 04/07/2012 8:17:14 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: LibsRJerks

Where are the debates? Why did the debates end right when they should have started? Why did Santorum and Romney not want to debate Gingrich prior to Super Tuesday? Where is the outtrage???


55 posted on 04/07/2012 8:26:23 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: X-spurt
Santorum is the one who has given this primary to Romney, no one else. He is a Huckabee twin, who has also endorsed Romney, at least he was up front about it...

A very wise freeper had this to say about what's going on right now. It taught me a lot:

It’s Huckabee bullheadedly plowing ahead of Thompson by sheer belief in his own holiness all over again. The story always starts out the same: Conservatives get a credible alternative to the Establishment front-runner, and he starts getting attacked.

Then the SoCon who stayed under the radar (Huckabee then, Santorum now) becomes everyone’s plan B, because the guy who could have won (Thompson, Gingrich) was unloaded upon by the GOP-E money machine. Then the smug supporters of the upstart underdog all thump their chest and say “NO.....YOUR GUY SHOULD DROP OUT!!”

Then the vote is already split, the credible candidate becomes non-credible because of vote-splitting, and the upstart winds-up in second place because folks trying to beat the Establishment liberal switch to plan B because the smug voters of the only holy candidate make it loudly clear that they’re going to support the holy upstart candidate even if it means the Liberals win. It JUST KEEPS HAPPENING.

In reality, what needed to happen was for Santorum to drop out early, when it became apparent that there was someone who could lead Romney in the polls for a long time, and when it was clear he had a friggin’ LITANY of ballot and delegate issues. Even if it was not Newt at the time (heck, replace Newt with Perry), Conservatives should have united around a single candidate with a full organization and little to no ballot and delegate issues, and there SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A PLAN B. Conservative should have been forced to STAY united, learn to DEFEND their candidate rather than defect because the rich, Establishment Liberal was able to smear the credible Conservative with overwhelming cash.

If there had been no Santorum, Newt would be leading right now. He would be leading because we would have been united against Romney from day one, and there would have been no defections based on the fact that - by simply running under the radar - someone else rises because they haven’t been unloaded on.

We CANNOT keep doing this. We CANNOT keep Santoruming and Huckabeeing ourselves based on some sick notion of the holiness of a politician. We cannot keep some broke one-percenter in the race because they were able to show well in Iowa after living there for two years and facing almost no attacks because of their low polling. We cannot keep rewarding these guys for throwing Hail Mary passes when we have a chance to defeat the Liberals. No more “shoestring” campaigns, no more one-percenters who surge in time to do well in Iowa, no more long-shot dreams based on the notion that some candidate is the mostest Christianest candidate of them all.

No more Huckabees, no more Santorums. No more long-shots who surge in Iowa. Rule them out before they ruin another Primary season. Santorum was never going to get 1144 delegates - it was NEVER going to happen. The fact that people bull-headedly refused to waver from him KILLED us - and then they turned around and taunted Newt and Perry voters for voting for Santorum in desperation, citing the vote count as if nobody knows what was actually happening. No more Santorums, no more Huckabees. No more long shots, period. ~ TitansAFC

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2861639/posts?page=96#96

56 posted on 04/07/2012 9:19:47 AM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: conservative98

None of this, NOT ONE DAMN PART was by accident.

Overload with BS debates, then gone when they would best serve the purpose. Can we smell RNC somewhere in that woodpile with the RINOs and DNC? I am afraid we have been had, folks.

Am still holding out hope Newt will somehow pull off the convention coup, but must admit its a longshot now.


57 posted on 04/07/2012 9:20:29 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38
Thanks, Newt! How much has Romney paid you to stay in?

That's a question best asked Santorum... very interesting that both he and Mitt decided to take a 3-day weekend, and Newt is out there campaigning still.

58 posted on 04/07/2012 9:27:19 AM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

If the following could somehow get written deep in the heart of hearts of every tired, discouraged, disillusioned Newt supporter, we could all get a second wind and soar again...

I plant it in your heart for now. May it grow and may you be blessed. And may God bless Newt.

“Forget what happened before, and do not think about the past. Look at the new thing I am going to do. It is already happening. Don’t you see it? I will make a road in the desert and rivers in the dry land. - Isaiah 43:18


59 posted on 04/07/2012 9:30:36 AM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The "rack" being designed for Newt's appearance Sunday on Fox with Chris Wallace will be interesting to watch. How hard will Chris campaign for Mitt? What will the "Round Table" decide is Newt's biggest "political suicide sin?"

How Perfect! Newt on Fox News on Easter morning...

HAVE A WONDERFUL AND BLESSED EASTER! Take heart, feel His touch, He is with us.

60 posted on 04/07/2012 9:34:14 AM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: true believer forever

But, Newt is a “Big Government Conservative”, too! Where are the VIABLE “Small Government Conservative” candidates for ‘12 GOP POTUS? (RP is crazy, especially when it comes to his profound isolationism on all foreign policy issues.)


61 posted on 04/07/2012 9:37:41 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: true believer forever

I don’t and did not support Santorum nor huckleberry, but both obviously are good men. The reason neither got further than disrupter position is neither have that ol “gravitas”, neither have a Presidential appearance.

I beleive Mitt and GOPe saturation bombing Newt put him in too negative a light, conservatives became desparate because they figured the saturation bombing would not stop and went into Plan B. Newt stood up to those incestant barrages better than anyone else. It almost has the feel of when Washington went to Valley Forge, our Army was in tatters, somehow (remarkedly by the sudden appearance of the smartest man in the room, Van Storben or whatever was his name) we came back from near death to prevail.


62 posted on 04/07/2012 9:39:04 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
But, Newt is a “Big Government Conservative”, too! Where are the VIABLE “Small Government Conservative” candidates for ‘12 GOP POTUS? (RP is crazy, especially when it comes to his profound isolationism on all foreign policy issues.)

Re Newt, that is true to a point, but he is also a Reformer with a capital R, which is what scares the heck out of DC and the establishment, republicans and dems. Reforming and cutting waste, downsizing is a form of small government, and I am not sure he will get the free reign to do anything he wants due to Congress, whatever the make-up.

Please give another thought to working for and voting for him... We are 4 months out, a lot can happen in four months!

HAPPY EASTER! Have a Blessed and Wonderful Day.

63 posted on 04/07/2012 9:47:55 AM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: God-fear-republican
In a sane world, one would think the extension of the world battlespace would include 'space' itself.

But, this isn't a sane world, and certainly not a sane country (US) now. The next battlespace for us in the final conflict will be the media, urban cities, and illegal immigrant incursion causing a social and moral breakdown of the publicized citizenry - with biding acceptance from 'normal' America. Until they can bear it no more.

64 posted on 04/07/2012 9:54:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All
Go Newt!!

 

The insider the insiders can't control,

 and they're scared to death...

Newt terminator

"We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many, many long months of struggle and of suffering. You ask, what is our policy? I will say: It is to wage war, by television, blog, and debate, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us; to wage war against a monstrous tyranny never surpassed in the dark, lamentable catalogue of American politics. That is our policy. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: It is victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all lies, victory, however long and hard the road may be. " ~ Bobalu

Go Newt!!

In this season of a Miracle, when all hope was gone, if the following could somehow get written deep in the heart of hearts of every tired, discouraged, disillusioned Newt supporter, we could all get a second wind and soar again... I plant it in your heart for now. May it grow and may you be blessed. And may God bless Newt.

"Forget what happened before, and do not think about the past. Look at the new thing I am going to do. It is already happening. Don't you see it? I will make a road in the desert and rivers in the dry land. - Isaiah 43:18

65 posted on 04/07/2012 9:58:13 AM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: conservative98

I don’t know. I’m CRAVING debates right now ... of course, we had a lot of them, but issues are constantly in flux ..we as Americans have a VERY important decision to make ...and more debates can only clarify things.

Of course, though, NO ONE wants to debate Newt, or see their candidate up against him.

What does that tell you?


66 posted on 04/07/2012 10:14:22 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, I appreciate cbs posting that.

Could we. maybe, Freep this poll? Looks like the usual suspects have been there, but I went to another one where the Speaker was ahead at like 35%

http://www.americaschoice2012.org/

grrr Newtsnetwork site is all wonky today. Tried to go back to get a link for the second poll & can’t get to that part of the Public Square.

Well anyway. Have a Very Happy & Blessed Easter (& Passover) FRiends!

Thank you, as always, CW, for your posts!


67 posted on 04/07/2012 10:28:42 AM PDT by KGeorge
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To: NavVet
Simple plans, like mirrors in space!

Unfortunately for you, I don't think you know how much ignorance, misinformation, and purposeful distortion your remark demonstrates. Disagree with Newt on policy, or matters of substance - don't make things up or offer your teeny-little-brain version of what he says in a visionary sense and seeing down the road what no one else sees - he is noted for that; for example, when he walked into a congress dominated by democrats for 40 years, and said the republicans would take over congress.

No doubt, back then, you would have been one of the ones responding to Newt's outlandish vision with "simple plans, like taking over Congress when the dems have been in control for 40 years".

Let me guess, you support Santorum?

Newt santorum supporter brain

... and their teeny little brain..

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpps/news/russia-us-moon-base-nasa-dpgonc-20110119-to-_17194074

Russia is talking with the US and Europe on plans to create a manned research base on the moon, the head of the Russian space agency Roscosmos said Thursday.

Roscosmos is discussing the possibilities for a permanent moon base with officials from NASA and the European Space Agency, the agency's chief, Vladimir Popovkin said. "We don't want man to just step on the moon," Popovkin told Vesti FM radio station, according to the Ria Novosti news agency. "Today, we know enough about it, we know that there is water in its polar areas ... we are now discussing how to begin [the moon's] exploration with NASA and the European Space Agency."

He said the plan was either to set up a base on the moon or launch a station to orbit around it. Russia also is planning to send two unmanned mission to the moon by 2020, Popovkin said.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/22/181737.shtml

Chinese moon base 2002

68 posted on 04/07/2012 10:49:03 AM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: napscoordinator
All true, but the poor guy can’t get a vote to save his life. People like him, but refuse to vote for him.

Uh, Naps, he gets plenty of votes and you know that. I do salute your latest attempt to knock down Newt with just the right touch of compassion and worried concern... won't work, but nice try. :)

HAVE A BLESSED AND WONDERFUL EASTER!!

69 posted on 04/07/2012 10:59:11 AM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: samtheman
I never quite thought of it like that but now that I have, thanks to you, I have to put myself in the same category. Minus the interesting. I am not interesting. But I am a conservative and futurist.

And as you say, Newt is an interesting conservative and futurist.

I am very sorry he won't be our candidate.

I am even sorrier Rick Perry won't be our candidate. I like them both very much. When Rick failed, I switched to Newt. Now that it's all over I feel free to say I would prefer Perry over Gingrich, if he could have survived the debate cycle, which obviously he couldn't (though the back surgery and meds had a lot to do with that, along with stupid back-stabbing "conservatives" who got their panties in a bunch over the long-dead Gardisil issue... though why get into all that now, right).

I also like Perry very much, and he is doing a lot of heavy lifting for Newt in Texas right now. I hope he stays the course. the way his supporters abandoned him after the media onslaught was just very sad. I think he could have gotten a second wind and might still be in it. The money people got nervous.

RE "I never quite thought of it like that but now that I have, thanks to you, I have to put myself in the same category. Minus the interesting. I am not interesting. But I am a conservative and futurist."

Personally, I think people with the self-awareness and humility, as well as thoughtfulness, to call themselves "not interesting" are very interesting and very rare.

HAVE A WONDERFUL AND BLESSED EASTER!

70 posted on 04/07/2012 11:07:57 AM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: God-fear-republican
Newt is visionary!

Don’t laugh at his space ideas. Russians and Chinese rush to put weapons in space and the moon and we sit still (by design). The next war will be won or lost by those nuclear and electromagnetic-pulse guided weapons, guess what, from space.

So Newt knows what he is talking about.

YAY FOR YOU!!!

71 posted on 04/07/2012 11:14:42 AM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: sirchtruth
It's obvious Newt has the most foresight. What needs to happen, which I think will, is Newt needs to show up at the convention and just smack the HAMMER down on the establishment. I mean raise total Cain! Make it a raucous, contentious in your face political brawl!

Mitt is going to be a disaster no matter what, there is no way conservatives are going to rally behind the doofus.

HAMMER ON, NEWT!

Newt not brave won't be free

My name is Newt. I bring the pain.

72 posted on 04/07/2012 11:19:49 AM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: exit82
What is interesting about Newt is that he can explain the complex in very simple terms, with uncommon ease. workers, salt of the earth.

I knew a lot of the folks in that crowd of 350, and they are all kinds of people—farmers, police, factory workers, housewives, professionals, officials, etc.—they had no problem understanding Newt and responding to him.

The real problem lies in breaking through the template the media and the GOP have relentlessly promoted about Newt—the “baggage” if you will—and I think a lot of our folks went for Santorum because he is somehow “cleaner” than Newt-—but Newt is far and away the only one who would be fearless in taking on Obama.

It is up to conservatives in the states that have voted yet to change that direction. Only half the states have held their primaries.

The media wants Newt gone because he is the biggest threat to Obama.

You are absolutely correct about zeroing in on the real problem: "The real problem lies in breaking through the template the media and the GOP have relentlessly promoted about Newt—the “baggage” if you will—and I think a lot of our folks went for Santorum because he is somehow “cleaner” than Newt..." What the "clean" crowd doesn't realize is that it doesn't matter how clean they are, by the time the media and dems and the DNC get through with our candidate - they are going to have x1 million the baggage Newt has. It won't matter 1 iota if it is real, fabricated or grossly exaggerated. And maybe the cleaner the candidate, the more outrageous they will make it... they have bought this idea and they are totally incorrect and in for a rude and painful awakening.

HAVE A WONDERFUL AND BLESSED EASTER!!

73 posted on 04/07/2012 11:31:06 AM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
I am curious to see what happens when/if Santorum gracefully withdraws from the primary after his upcoming defeat in PA. Could Santorum pledge his delegates to Newt, and then the conservatives in the remaining primary states coalesce around Gingrich’s nomination?

We can only hope...

.. and pray.

74 posted on 04/07/2012 11:36:04 AM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: true believer forever
...HAVE A WONDERFUL AND BLESSED EASTER! Take heart, feel His touch, He is with us.

I know. Have a blessed Easter.

75 posted on 04/07/2012 12:06:01 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: RFEngineer
If Newt could have seen past his wazoo, he might have made a viable presidential candidate.

And if you had a brain, or some way to turn off your idiot spigot, you might be able to post commentary worthy of FR.

Newt santorum supporter brain

... and their teeny weeny brain.

76 posted on 04/07/2012 12:30:28 PM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: X-spurt
I don’t and did not support Santorum nor huckleberry, but both obviously are good men. The reason neither got further than disrupter position is neither have that ol “gravitas”, neither have a Presidential appearance.

I beleive Mitt and GOPe saturation bombing Newt put him in too negative a light, conservatives became desparate because they figured the saturation bombing would not stop and went into Plan B. Newt stood up to those incestant barrages better than anyone else. It almost has the feel of when Washington went to Valley Forge, our Army was in tatters, somehow (remarkedly by the sudden appearance of the smartest man in the room, Van Storben or whatever was his name) we came back from near death to prevail.

I think yours is one of the best analysis and summaries I have read about where we are and how we got here. I really like your phrase very much: "disrupter position" - it is very concise and accurate.

*****

Washington's troops in the link article (sorry Rich Lowrey, romney supporter, wrote it) are described as 'one step ahead of annihilation' - ring a bell? GO NEWT!!

  Washington-delaware-l

Newt Gingrich is looking to make history...  

Again.

In December 1776, the future of America hung on the fate of a bedraggled army barely a step ahead of annihilation. When the British fleet arrived in New York, an American soldier marveled it was as if “all London was afloat.”

After several devastating defeats, his troops exhausted, Washington decided to cross the Delaware on Christmas and surprise the British in Trenton.  If the raid backfired, the war was likely over, and he would be captured and killed.

Washington’s troops crossed the river that night, in flat-bottomed boats, tossed by ice floes and raging winds.  Once on land, they marched nine miles to Trenton in a driving snowstorm.  Washington considered calling it off, but he'd come too far.

Arriving at Trenton, the spirited troops surprised the British, and the battle ended quickly, 1000 British killed or captured, to two American combat deaths.

Washington followed with another victory at Princeton, and several after that.   In the space of a few weeks, American troops irreversibly changed the dynamic of the war.

In other words, a moment in history when a few ALL-IN men changed the world.

 

Newt Gingrich is looking for ALL-IN men and women to stand up to the power brokers and playmakers in Washington, DC

Join us today.

           http://www.newt.org       

 with special thanks to Rich               

77 posted on 04/07/2012 12:45:09 PM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: true believer forever

Visionary, indeed.

You Newtcakes can’t get that your candidate isn’t even beating Paul in many polls. He’s only hanging on to try to cut a deal with Romney. It’s a betrayal worthy of such a “visionary”.


78 posted on 04/07/2012 2:19:20 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: true believer forever

You compare the prurient Newt to the profoundly great George Washington?

My my......Newt doesn’t have to cross the Delaware in the middle of winter. He need only set his sights on the opponent immediately ahead of him. Ron Paul.

Hardly the stuff of greatness.


79 posted on 04/07/2012 2:23:12 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: sirchtruth

I am fervently hoping the same thing.

Romney will never, ever win anyway. And even if he did it would be a freaking disasters. But he won’t.


80 posted on 04/07/2012 2:30:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: RFEngineer
You seem extremely focused on Newt's past - his confessed, repented of, reconciled-with-his-family past, why is that? Because you think your boy is clean? Because you think you are. Your boy is corrupt and deceitful, and half the man Newt is, sanctimony and self-righteous piety notwithstanding. As for you, I don't know and don't care. try butting out of other people's business. IOW, get a life..

Newtron bomb end war on america

Newt Gingrich.. do you care about his past or America’s Future?

"He led us to victory before. Spectacular, historic victory. The strategy and content of his 1994 Contract with America propelled the Republicans in 1994 to win control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years. Even the Reagan Revolution in the 1980s failed to achieve that.

Moreover, once in power, Gingrich delivered on his promises, and maintained a solid conservative record. He carried out the Contract with America in full, holding a vote on every item as promised, most of which did pass. His record was unswervingly pro-life, pro-gun and Second Amendment, and anti-tax.** 

Newt's the only one with the experience, and the courage to guide America through these troubling times.

And, he will hit the ground running on DAY ONE.*

VOTE NEWT.

He knows how to fix it.

 

*Presidents can begin turning things around very very quickly. 

As part of his 21st Century Contract with America, Newt has pledged to issue a series of Executive Orders to create jobs and help undo the damage of the Obama administration on the first day of his administration. 

Newt.org will periodically release user submitted executive orders which will be added to the list he will sign on the first day of his presidency.

**Read more:  http://spectator.org/archives/2011/12/28/the-case-for-newt-gingrich

 

81 posted on 04/07/2012 2:53:29 PM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: true believer forever

Thanks. I tried to figure out this Primary situation and its clear that Newt was not supposed to really challenge.

I think that Sarah decided to not play because either she is asstute enough to see the secret handwriting on the wall or someone in the know told her the fix was in. Newt is basically and outsider to the GOP because he doesn’t tow their line. Neither do I!


82 posted on 04/07/2012 4:21:01 PM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: true believer forever

“You seem extremely focused on Newt’s past - his confessed, repented of, reconciled-with-his-family past,why is that? Because you think your boy is clean? “

Newt may well have confessed, repented of his sinful past as he claims. None of that changes that he must suffer the consequences of those actions - as any biblical scholar will tell you.

It’s not just the real bimbos of his past, it’s the political bimbos that are most concerning. There is no God that he can seek forgiveness for political sins.

Newt will betray you. He has always betrayed everything that he claimed was important to him.

as for “my boy” I support Santorum by default - but I don’t try to elevate him, or any political figure to demi-god status as you Newtcakes do with your “boy”.

Newt gets to live with his prurient past as part of his forgiveness.

Beat up Santorum, please. He deserves it - as do all politicians that seek any office. I don’t care. But for you to sanctimoniously assert that Newt has been “forgiven” and that all discussion of his personal dalliances as well as his political dalliances are somehow verboten is not supported biblically, or politically.

Newts track record is one of compromise, not one of the resolute leader you claim he is.

Newt will betray you and conservatism to elevate himself politically. He always has, and probably always will - especially now in his likely swansong political performance.


83 posted on 04/07/2012 4:26:56 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

Well, now that I’ve heard from the all-knowing, all-seeing you, I think I’ll just go ahead and follow my heart. Have fun in your cynical life. And by all means, let’s consult the biblical scholars when we are weighing a man’s character in the balance and hands of a merciful God. Oh, man, you are something, how did you get so bitter?


84 posted on 04/07/2012 4:32:14 PM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: true believer forever

“Oh, man, you are something, how did you get so bitter?”

Boy, you Newtcakes sure are thin-skinned.

Is your “boy” really that helpless?

You can’t rule out him cozying right up to Romney, can you?

It’s his M.O.....


85 posted on 04/07/2012 5:14:46 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: true believer forever

“Teeny Little Brain” why don’t you really demonstrate your intellectual capacity and throw in “Do Do Head”.

If you can’t grasp the differnce between proclaiming your intention to win an election, and spending trillions of dollars on a hair-brained scheme to ring the earth with giant space mirrors, all to combat a non-existant problem then maybe you, like Newt, suffer from microcerebral complex. And while, I may not be smart enough to grasp the brilliance of spending trillions on space mirrors, or trillions on Moon Base Newt (Just because Putin says he wants to bankrupt his country doing it),
I am smart enough to know that any candidate who co-endorses a Congressional candidate with ACORN, who has favored the individual mandate, who took influence money from Freddie or Fannie, and whose moral compass makes Clintion look like the Pope, isn’t someone I would ever vote for.


86 posted on 04/07/2012 7:43:28 PM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If you can’t understand that a country who borrows almost 50% of every dollar it spends, can’t afford to ring the earth with giant space mirrors to combat the fairy tale of man-made global warming, or that a nation on the verge of bankruptcy can’t afford the trillions it would take to make us feel “Exceptional” with a small moon base, then maybe you should buy a calculator.

If Newt had a plan to return us to solvency, instead of digging the hole deeper with his loony space plans, I would be more impressed. (I guess we may miss out on the next Tang).


87 posted on 04/07/2012 7:47:57 PM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: knarf

A use of mirrors as a cheap / effective way to guide people out of a burning building is one thing. Ringing the planet with giant space mirrors to combat a problem that doesn’t exist at the cost of trillions and trillions of dollars, is quite another.


88 posted on 04/07/2012 7:49:55 PM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: NavVet

Newt has a very good an viable plan to return us to solvency.

As far as the moon base goes...he said it would be privately funded for the most part. And that is very obtainable since the private sector is trying to do just that. If what I read is true, China is developing a plan for a moon base.

Our illustrious leader (and I use that term loosely) shut down any further space exploration. So I guess you must agree with him? But I guess we can always hitch a ride with the Russians. Like it or don’t like it.. the new frontier will be in space. In military action as well as others.

This country is exceptional. It always has been. Don’t get your knickers in a knot because Newt suggests a way to stay competitive.


89 posted on 04/07/2012 8:13:25 PM PDT by berdie
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To: NavVet

You really need to supply a link for your space mirrors obsession because it never occurred... it was seven or eight words when Newt was talking about ideas outside the box, like the Wright Brothers aeronautics, or the transcontinental railroad. But I doubt you’re worried about truth - or your credibility - since you have none, and since you’d obviously rather spread lies and distortions than carry on intelligent discourse. Sorry for implying you had a teeny little brain, actually it’s now quite apparent you have none at all...

Here’s a thought - you know so damn much about everything, why don’t you - and your repellant personality - run for office?

Facts, reality. Try them, you’ll like ‘em. Or maybe not.

Get a clue, and enjoy your judgment seat... for with the same judgment...

That’s all for now. I only spend so much time trying to have intelligent conversations with Santorum supporters, or those of the spiritual judgmental ilk. Too stupid, too stubborn, too blind. I hope you understand.


90 posted on 04/07/2012 8:19:13 PM PDT by true believer forever (GO NEWT! On to Tampa - hang tight - we can do this!!)
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To: NavVet
"What is the source of the space mirror reference? The idea of using space mirrors to affect lighting and climate on Earth is mentioned in a chapter of a book called "Window of Opportunity" that Gingrich co-wrote with his second wife Marianne and science fiction writer David Drake in the mid-1980s. The idea is not one of Gingrich's but was brought up at a conference sponsored by NASA that took place at Woods Hole, Mass., in 1979. Gingrich notes the idea with approval, but has not mentioned it since the publication of the book."
91 posted on 04/07/2012 8:20:48 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: RFEngineer
Do you ever listen with ears to hear, the candidates speak ... WHAT they say, HOW they say it, and WHY ?

DO you?

LISTEN to Newt.

92 posted on 04/07/2012 8:34:40 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: berdie

If there is money to be made, the private sector doesn’t need Newt to tell them to spend money. As far as China and Russia goes, “If your friends were jumping off a bridge, would you jump too.” It’s one thing to cut the entire program, it’s another to add several trillion to the budget to establish a permanant lunar colony, much less Space Mirrors.

And I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but we don’t have any money. Almost 1/2 the federal budget is borrowed or printed money. Once we are out of debt, then Newt can pitch his looney, I mean lunar, ideas.

(And preparing for the military aspects of war in space, doesn’t require giant mirrors or permanant moon bases).


93 posted on 04/07/2012 8:56:32 PM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: NavVet

I have absolutely noticed that we are broke.

But from what I have heard..most of Newt’s ideas involve private sector funding. Maybe you should listen to what the man says. But I’m sure you have. ;) He is not instructing anyone, at all.

Following someone off a cliff? Nah. But if the future is what it seems to be..it won’t be following anyone off of a cliff. It will be a matter of protection. Much like it was in the 60’s. Or during Reagan’s Space Wars that everyone made fun of.

So tell me. You seem pretty intelligent. How would you prepare for an attack from space initiated by the Chinese?


94 posted on 04/07/2012 9:43:38 PM PDT by berdie
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To: NavVet

Thinking about your posts...are you a Ron Paul supporter?

That would make sense.


95 posted on 04/07/2012 10:18:32 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie

Private sector floating space mirrors, pirvate sector moon colonies, geared toward national defense. Give me a break. If the private sector builds a moon colony, it will be because there is a market for some product that can’t be produced cheaper here on earth.

Space based missile defense, and anti-sattelite defenses don’t require the construction and logistical support of a lunar colony.

I think the questions you need to ask in evaluating Newt’s plan are: 1. Exactly how would Newt procure “Private sector funding” for either of these ideas. And apart from the nebulous idea of spin off technology such as Tang and space blankets, exactly what is national security purpose would be served by building, maintaining and supplying a colony on the moon, and how would a lunar colony serve that purpose. Because if we are going add a mountain of debt to our already crushing debt, we should be able to state specifically what goal would be achieved.


96 posted on 04/07/2012 11:02:19 PM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: berdie

If there is one person running for President crazier Newt Gingrich, it is Ron Paul.

You, like most Gingrich supporters, seem to think the only motivation for criticising Newt is to help some other candidate. You can’t seem to grasp the idea that opposition to the man who cuddled with Nancy Pelosi, endorsed an ultra-left winger in NY-23 and who peddled influence to Freddie Mae, is motivated by opposition to Newt’s ideas, and actions and nothing more.

Ron Paul is certifiable, Santorum while less flawed than Newt in my mind is still very flawed, and Romney is no better than Obama. If it were Newt vs. Obama, I would vote for Newt just to slow down the express train to hell, but Newt is a big government guy whose ideas expand governemnt and if you took off the Newt blinders for a minute, you would see that.


97 posted on 04/07/2012 11:09:37 PM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: NavVet

I can’t imagine that you don’t see how much solving problems driven by the challenge of expanding beyond Earth have resulted (many by accident because we aren’t smart enough to know what we don’t know) in innovations we use daily for commerce, security, health, engineering, science, education, communication, every daily living and entertainment.

The cost spent (one half of one percent) is not an issue, it is the call not to spend it that should worry you. For this administration to hand off our national space program — walk away by subsidizing “commercial” “green” “entrepreneur” Elon Musk (given our tax money to “produce” no profitable elec car (Tesla), or solar panels (SolarCity) or rocket transport (SpaceX) — but lots of money put back into Obama’s campaign pocket and for hosting an inaugural bash) goes along with the rest of the stop America crowd.


98 posted on 04/08/2012 2:14:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: RFEngineer
.....Newts track record is one of compromise, not one of the resolute leader you claim he is.......

UNLIKE Rick and Mitt, Newt Gingrich didn't rest on his laurels complaining about the liberal political landscape of his state. Newt CHANGED the political landscape in GA (as he did in Washington), brought Democrats into the party, rallied people to get involved in politics -- all by pushing conservatism.

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"ATLANTA — It wasn't so long ago that the Republican Party in Georgia was just an afterthought, and Democrats were in firm control of all the levers of state government. Back then, Newt Gingrich and other die-hard GOP stalwarts ventured across the state with the far-fetched message that Republicans could reverse the tide.

Now with commanding majorities in the Statehouse and control of all statewide offices, Gingrich is hoping his vision for how the GOP could overcome decades of Democratic dominance in Georgia will pay dividends. He sorely needs a victory when his home state votes Tuesday, along with a big chunk of its 76 delegates, to prove his stumbling presidential bid has staying power.

Many Republican figures in Georgia still credit him with championing conservative policies, outlining a framework for what a GOP majority in the state could accomplish and broadcasting talking points to a generation of up-and-coming conservative leaders. He's also applauded for lobbying conservative Democrats, like then-Rep. Nathan Deal, to switch parties.

"Everyone else was trying to lose as slowly as possible, and to die with dignity at the Alamo. He was talking confidently that the Republican majority in Georgia, in the South and nationally was right around the corner," said Ralph Reed, a veteran Georgia GOP operative who founded the national Faith and Freedom Coalition. "On the one hand it was crazy, but on the other it was just the most exciting thing you've ever heard.".....................In Ga., Gingrich helped build conservative base

99 posted on 04/08/2012 2:19:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: true believer forever

The only time Mitt thinks “outside the box” is when he puts the family dog outside in a box (strapped to the roof of his car for the family’s 12 hour ride to their summer vacation destination).

He is a man of small thoughts - not a visionary, a follower not a leader, and a whiner who does not inspire.

Mitt Romney being chosen by the GOP-E to lead the U.S. is insulting and dangerous.


100 posted on 04/08/2012 2:27:18 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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