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Is Obama 'Dangerously Close To Totalitarianism'?
IBD editorials ^ | April 7, 2012

Posted on 04/07/2012 9:19:09 AM PDT by raptor22

Power: Given the president's end-runs around Congress, his shredding of the Constitution and his assault on the authority of the courts, a second term free of electoral restraints may be a frightening prospect.

Judge Andrew Napolitano, a Fox News commentator, raised the question on Neil Cavuto's "Your World" show Wednesday. And while it seems fanciful in light of the safeguards built into our democracy and its institutions, it recognizes the threat posed by the president's policies and actions if left unchecked.

"I think the president is dangerously close to totalitarianism," Napolitano opined. "A few months ago he was saying, 'The Congress doesn't count, the Congress doesn't mean anything, I am going to rule by decree and by administrative regulation.'

"Now he's basically saying the Supreme Court doesn't count. It doesn't matter what they think. They can't review our legislation. That would leave just him as the only branch of government standing."

Some would consider this borderline hyperbole. But this is, after all, a president who has said he can't wait for Congress to act and will govern by executive order and regulations if necessary. He has questioned the Supreme Court's "unprecedented" review of ObamaCare.

As the Department of Justice turned in its homework assignment on the judicial review of the constitutionality of laws, it was a reminder that this is an administration that's already been found in contempt of court by a federal judge.

In February of last year, Louisiana Federal District Court Judge Martin Feldman found that the Obama Interior Department was in contempt of his ruling that the offshore oil drilling moratorium, imposed by the administration in 2010, was unconstitutional. After Feldman struck down the initial drilling ban, the Interior Department simply established a second ban that was virtually identical.

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KEYWORDS: agenda; dictator; ibd; ibdtreason; obama; totalitarianism; treason
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1 posted on 04/07/2012 9:19:17 AM PDT by raptor22
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To: raptor22

That depends upon what the meaning of “Close” is.


2 posted on 04/07/2012 9:21:07 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Clairity; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

Treason ping


3 posted on 04/07/2012 9:26:31 AM PDT by raptor22 (Join me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: raptor22

Yes.

The checks and balances built-in to our system are not being utilized.

The Courts need to SMACK him down. Decide cases based on the constitution.

The Congress needs to SMACK him down. Provide funding for only the things Congress approves.

He’s taking everything you let him have. STOP HIM.


4 posted on 04/07/2012 9:27:53 AM PDT by Principled
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To: raptor22

Nearly everyone is afraid to attack Obama out of fear of being labeled racist.


5 posted on 04/07/2012 9:31:31 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: raptor22

Sucks that no one cares.

Now go pay your taxes. Your hard working government needs the money. :)

/sarc(????)


6 posted on 04/07/2012 9:32:59 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: raptor22

If SCOTUS overturns Obamacare and Obama ignores their ruling, it’ll be pretty clear at that point. This is why FREEPERS MUST DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO HELP GET HIM OUT OF THE WH IN NOVEMBER!


7 posted on 04/07/2012 9:37:19 AM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: raptor22

We are on the cusp.


8 posted on 04/07/2012 9:39:12 AM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: Le Chien Rouge

There’s something unflattering about spineless RINO kissing constituent ass. They usually come across as the liars we know they are. So as far as I’m concerned, they should withhold their often clumsy and gratuitous insults.

Obama’s sufficiently denigrating himself.


9 posted on 04/07/2012 9:44:11 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

And how do we do that? Vote for Romney?

I don’t know what other options we have. We are screwed.


10 posted on 04/07/2012 9:45:13 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

Agreed.

But I will hate voting for Romney (if I do) with every fiber of my being. : (

Until then, I will make it as difficult for Romney as possible. He is a Progressive by his own admission. He can’t articulate even the simplest ideas of Capitalism, Free Market, Freedom, Independence and Liberty. That worries me greatly.


11 posted on 04/07/2012 9:47:02 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

The “racist” tag is going to lose it’s power soon, IMO. People are getting sick to death of it.


12 posted on 04/07/2012 9:53:30 AM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL= SLAVERY)
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To: raptor22

The whole federal government is. It has crept that way since 1989 at slower or faster pace under one POTUS and Congress or another, but never without steady encroachments. Obama is a mere pustule. The federal system is the pox. Treat the disease and not the symptom.


13 posted on 04/07/2012 10:01:13 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to support Willard. He is what he is.)
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To: Chgogal

He is a Progressive by his own admission. He can’t articulate even the simplest ideas of Capitalism, Free Market, Freedom, Independence and Liberty. That worries me greatly.

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As the old tale goes: “You knew I was a snake when you picked me up.”


14 posted on 04/07/2012 10:02:56 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to support Willard. He is what he is.)
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To: Tzimisce

Want to know where Obama’s 13 year-old daughter is right now with 12 friends?

On spring break in Oaxaca Mexico, on your dime.

She took two jets and 25 secret service men.

A thirteen year-old?

Why haven’t you heard about it?

The Obama Administration has had the Secret Service scouring the web ordering that any website mentioning this be taken down because letting the travel plans out could endanger the president’s daughter’s security.

Nonsense, the “royal couple” just want to hide the way they are ripping off the U. S. taxpayer. Only a few Canadian Web-sites still have it up. (both below)

The Obama’s are laughing at the “suckers” who are funding their Imperial Lifestyle.

This trip will cost more than most Americans make in their entire lifetimes.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/travel/Obama+daughter+spends+spring+break+Mexico/6323773/story.html

http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668&article=9921576


15 posted on 04/07/2012 10:03:11 AM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: raptor22

The Constitution is nothing but an outworn piece of paper, unless the the government respects it, the judges obey it, and/or the people defend it.

Unfortunately, about the only American history being taught in the Public Schools for the past generation or two is how the white guys killed the Indians, enslaved the blacks, and colonized and plundered the Third World. Inalienable rights? What’s that?

And as the Democrats increasingly ignore the Constitution, the Republican Establishment is glad to help them out.

When Obama started a war with Libya without consulting with congress or the people, what did Boner do? Write a letter, which the press ignored and he never followed up on. McCain and Gramnesty were busy cheering for Obama’s war and urging him to start more wars—on the wrong side.

Government Motors? No comment, and no resistance. Fast and Furious? Boner tells Issa to lay off.

Does Romney respect the Constitution any more than Obama? I think not. He’s a budding god with his own planet, he doesn’t need no stinkin’ Constitution.


16 posted on 04/07/2012 10:03:55 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: raptor22; All
This President relies on what he believes is the constitutional ignorance of "the People" in his ongoing attempts at usurpation of power in excess of that prescribed in the Constitution.

So-called "progressives" (in terms of liberty, their ideas are regressive) of both political Parties have promoted the idea that America, under its Constitution's structuring of government, is a "democracy." By this, and by outright censorship of the founding ideas from the nation's textbooks, many citizen/voters may not understand their Constitution's protections.

A people who do not understand the why's behind the Framers of the Constitution rejecting the idea of "democracy" in favor of "republic" may allow a majority of constitutionally-illiterate voters to respond favorably to a potential tyrant who wishes to bypass their Constitution's division/separation/limits on power in order to "give" them what he promises.

Despite the well-recorded declarations to the contrary, by America's Founders and Framers of its Constitution, as well as its early historians and others, that myth may have prepared us for the abuses we are witnessing today.

Franklin's response upon leaving the Convention, "A republic, if you can keep it," are famous.

John Adams' son, John Quincy, was 9 when the Declaration of Independence was written, 20 when the Constitution was framed, and from his teen years, served in various capacities in both the Legislative and Executive branches of the government, including as President. His words on this subject should be instructive on the subject at hand.

In 1839, he was invited by the New York Historical Society to deliver the "Jubilee" Address honoring the 50th Anniversary of the Inauguration of George Washington. He delivered that lengthy discourse which should be read by all who love liberty, for it traced the history of the development of the ideas underlying and the actions leading to the establishment of the Constitution which structured the United States government. His 50th-year summation seems to be a better source for understanding the kind of government the Founders formed than those of recent historians and politicians. He addresses the ideas of "democracy" and "republic" throughout, but here are some of his concluding remarks:

"Every change of a President of the United States, has exhibited some variety of policy from that of his predecessor. In more than one case, the change has extended to political and even to moral principle; but the policy of the country has been fashioned far more by the influences of public opinion, and the prevailing humors in the two Houses of Congress, than by the judgment, the will, or the principles of the President of the United States. The President himself is no more than a representative of public opinion at the time of his election; and as public opinion is subject to great and frequent fluctuations, he must accommodate his policy to them; or the people will speedily give him a successor; or either House of Congress will effectually control his power. It is thus, and in no other sense that the Constitution of the United States is democratic - for the government of our country, instead of a Democracy the most simple, is the most complicated government on the face of the globe. From the immense extent of our territory, the difference of manners, habits, opinions, and above all, the clashing interests of the North, South, East, and West, public opinion formed by the combination of numerous aggregates, becomes itself a problem of compound arithmetic, which nothing but the result of the popular elections can solve.

"It has been my purpose, Fellow-Citizens, in this discourse to show:-

"1. That this Union was formed by a spontaneous movement of the people of thirteen English Colonies; all subjects of the King of Great Britain - bound to him in allegiance, and to the British empire as their country. That the first object of this Union,was united resistance against oppression, and to obtain from the government of their country redress of their wrongs.

"2. That failing in this object, their petitions having been spurned, and the oppressions of which they complained, aggravated beyond endurance, their Delegates in Congress, in their name and by their authority, issued the Declaration of Independence - proclaiming them to the world as one people, absolving them from their ties and oaths of allegiance to their king and country - renouncing that country; declared the UNITED Colonies, Independent States, and announcing that this ONE PEOPLE of thirteen united independent states, by that act, assumed among the powers of the earth, that separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitled them.

"3. That in justification of themselves for this act of transcendent power, they proclaimed the principles upon which they held all lawful government upon earth to be founded - which principles were, the natural, unalienable, imprescriptible rights of man, specifying among them, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - that the institution of government is to secure to men in society the possession of those rights: that the institution, dissolution, and reinstitution of government, belong exclusively to THE PEOPLE under a moral responsibility to the Supreme Ruler of the universe; and that all the just powers of government are derived from the consent of the governed.

"4. That under this proclamation of principles, the dissolution of allegiance to the British king, and the compatriot connection with the people of the British empire, were accomplished; and the one people of the United States of America, became one separate sovereign independent power, assuming an equal station among the nations of the earth.

"5. That this one people did not immediately institute a government for themselves. But instead of it, their delegates in Congress, by authority from their separate state legislatures, without voice or consultation of the people, instituted a mere confederacy.

"6. That this confederacy totally departed from the principles of the Declaration of independence, and substituted instead of the constituent power of the people, an assumed sovereignty of each separate state, as the source of all its authority.

"7. That as a primitive source of power, this separate state sovereignty,was not only a departure from the principles of the Declaration of Independence, but directly contrary to, and utterly incompatible with them.

"8. That the tree was made known by its fruits. That after five years wasted in its preparation, the confederation dragged out a miserable existence of eight years more, and expired like a candle in the socket, having brought the union itself to the verge of dissolution.

"9. That the Constitution of the United States was a return to the principles of the Declaration of independence, and the exclusive constituent power of the people. That it was the work of the ONE PEOPLE of the United States; and that those United States, though doubled in numbers, still constitute as a nation, but ONE PEOPLE.

"10. That this Constitution, making due allowance for the imperfections and errors incident to all human affairs, has under all the vicissitudes and changes of war and peace, been administered upon those same principles, during a career of fifty years.

"11. That its fruits have been, still making allowance for human imperfection, a more perfect union, established justice, domestic tranquility, provision for the common defence, promotion of the general welfare, and the enjoyment of the blessings of liberty by the constituent people, and their posterity to the present day.

"And now the future is all before us, and Providence our guide."

In an earlier paragraph, he had stated:
"But this institution was republican, and even democratic. And here not to be misunderstood, I mean by democratic, a government, the administration of which must always be rendered comfortable to that predominating public opinion . . . and by republican I mean a government reposing, not upon the virtues or the powers of any one man - not upon that honor, which Montesquieu lays down as the fundamental principle of monarchy - far less upon that fear which he pronounces the basis of despotism; but upon that virtue which he, a noble of aristocratic peerage, and the subject of an absolute monarch, boldly proclaims as a fundamental principle of republican government. The Constitution of the United States was republican and democratic - but the experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived; and it was obvious that if virtue - the virtue of the people, was the foundation of republican government, the stability and duration of the government must depend upon the stability and duration of the virtue by which it is sustained."
(Underlining added for emphasis)

17 posted on 04/07/2012 10:05:20 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: raptor22

At one time, I thought that all the three governmental branches jealously guarded their power and authority. The Congress has voluntarily abdicated its responsibility and so has at least 1/3 of the Judiciary to the Executive Branch.


18 posted on 04/07/2012 10:08:48 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Principled
"He’s taking everything you let him have. STOP HIM."

There in lies the problem. Those who have the power to stop him using constitutional checks and balances do not want to stop him. Power is the holy grail of the new normal. Freedom is not.

19 posted on 04/07/2012 10:10:22 AM PDT by buckalfa (Nabob of Negativity)
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To: null and void

Ping.


20 posted on 04/07/2012 10:13:10 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (Charter Member of the Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
"If SCOTUS overturns Obamacare and Obama ignores their ruling, it’ll be pretty clear at that point."

Doesn't matter. The vast majority of those facing penalties simply won't abide. If the Fedgov attempts to garnish wages, all hell, and I mean ALL HELL will break out. Watch.

Obamacare is going down, either through the mandate being ruled no go, and/or the entire bill being nullified, or the fact above that millions will not tolerate a penalty for buying a service.

The commies have over-stepped their ambitions. They used to understand that incrementalism was the best way to further their failed ideology - been doing it since FDR. They got overly ambitious when they found this smooth-talking half-black and thought they could groom him to push faster into the abyss they call fairness.

I firmly believe they blew it. The backlash is coming in November and if not, then down the road as he attempts a benevolent dictatorship. The socialist/commies chose the wrong empty suit. Obama has opened to many independent eyes. Seems the frog is ready to jump out the water before he boils.

21 posted on 04/07/2012 10:13:28 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: Principled

“The Congress needs to SMACK him down. Provide funding for only the things Congress approves.”

The one problem with this idea is two words: Harry Reid. This cretin has enabled Obama in every way imaginable.


22 posted on 04/07/2012 10:23:56 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: raptor22
If Congress won't act, I will!"

The Constitution is charter of negative liberties, needs to be scrapped.

Obama tries to intimidate the Supreme Court while saying his intimidating comments were not intimidating.

In these cases, and others - like deeming that the Senate was not is session when it really was in order to make appointments - how can we tell the difference between a dictator and the current occupant of the White Crib?

23 posted on 04/07/2012 10:25:08 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: fatnotlazy

We are only screwed if spineless people stay home and not vote to oust this moron in Nov. I mean SPINLESS


24 posted on 04/07/2012 10:25:47 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Kindness will conquer evil)
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To: fatnotlazy

We are only screwed if spineless people stay home and not vote to oust this moron in Nov. I mean SPINELESS


25 posted on 04/07/2012 10:26:36 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Kindness will conquer evil)
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To: Principled

What people also need to see is that the Soros/Obama machine is not just dismantling the rule of law through policies; they are also dismantling it through CRIMES.

For instance, the Soros machine at least twice threatened the media companies with SOMETHING if their on-air personalities reported on Obama’s eligibility problem - a problem that now includes forgery and fraud involving Obama’s birth certificate and draft registration, according to Sheriff Joe Arpaio. The media heads told their on-air personalities the threat was FCC/FTC annihilation after the election if the issue was reported. That doesn’t really make sense, since reporting the threat could have kept Obama from being able to control the FCC/FTC. But whatever the threat was, it ended up meaning that if any person on TV or radio told the truth about the evidence, they and their families could be killed.

Hillary supporters are now telling the world about threats made to them in the 2008 primary and the timing of key Hillary supporters’ deaths that coincided with when they became potentially dangerous to Obama’s nomination.

So death threats and actual assassinations have fueled Obama’s rise to power. We’ve seen similar stuff with Obama saying that he was the only thing standing between the AIG execs and the pitchforks (right before allowing bonuses on the taxpayers’ dime...). Same thing with the DOJ dropping the voter intimidation case already won against the New Black Panther Party (which is now inciting racial attacks in the name of Trayvon, while putting up Wanted: Dead or Alive posters with a $10,000 reward for anybody who brings in George Zimmerman - and which has recently been found to be closely associated with Hezbollah). Same thing with conservative Chrysler dealers having their dealerships taken away and given to Obama supporters, and Chrysler investors having their secured status taken away and the money given instead to the unions.

I could go on and on, and someday before the election somebody needs to go on and on so we have a list of all this stuff for people to see in stark terms.

What people need to realize is that the takeover of the checks and balances have only been able to happen because of CRIMES. We are dealing with the mafia.

The crimes are by Obama, his czars, and his master, Soros. But they are also being done by the stooges at every level. Media stooges like those who edited a 911 call, blurred a photo of Zimmerman’s injuries, and claimed a racial slur where there was none, etc - all to demonstrate the left’s ability to create race riots on demand, at the very time that the eligibility issue was gaining attention and Obama made veiled threats to SCOTUS about the Obamacare decision.

Also government stooges at every level - such as whoever at the Selective Service Administration forged a draft registration for Obama, knowing that without a valid registration he wouldn’t even be eligible to be dog-catcher for the federal government. Or whoever at the HDOH altered the 1960-64 birth index to include legally nonvalid BC’s. Or Loretta Fuddy who committed misprision of fraud and forgery by failing to reveal that what Obama posted online as his BC was actually a forgery. Or the supervisors in John Brennan’s company who bypassed security protocols THREE TIMES to allow somebody to access (and somebody close to the investigation of the breach says it was actually to ALTER) Obama’s passport file.

Or stooges like the FBI people who told me that they don’t investigate document fraud. Or the Nebraska SOS who told us that we don’t need any legal documentation of eligibility because the media would never lie to us about somebody’s eligibility. Or Judge Malihi who first said that Obama needed to prove his eligibility and not consider that having been elected already proved eligibility - but then ruled Obama eligible even though no proof of eligibility had been submitted. Or the secretaries for the appeals court in that case which obfuscated so that the judge ended up deciding against the plaintiffs before the clerks had even allowed the plaintiffs to file anything.

The point is that all the institutions - media, government, law enforcement, courts, military - have violated the basic protocols and rules/laws that are intended to protect the integrity of this nation and its form of government. We know that the CONSERVATIVE media has done so because of threats, and it would be reasonable to assume that any whistle-blowers in any of the other institutions may have had the same kind of threats. Or they may have been more subtle - such as the illegal firing of inspector general Gerald Walpin (and 4 or 5 others) when he actually dared to do his job and found corruption by a top Obama supporter.

The lawlessness of this regime includes the stuff everybody can see - the czars, the refusals to defend DOMA in court, the takeovers, the pay-to-play, etc. It also includes covert crimes to stifle whistle-blowing and to falsify records.


26 posted on 04/07/2012 10:30:49 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: BuffaloJack
That depends upon what the meaning of “Close” is.

How about his possible inauguration in January of 2013?

27 posted on 04/07/2012 10:31:01 AM PDT by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: BornToBeAmerican

We are only screwed if spineless people stay home and not vote to oust this moron in Nov. I mean SPINELESS

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So Obama is ousted...maybe...and replace with...

Romney is not an improvement.


28 posted on 04/07/2012 10:31:24 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: sanjuanbob

I thought they were in Vegas.

But your point is still dead on.


29 posted on 04/07/2012 10:43:41 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: raptor22

Can’t just put in all on the slimy Bozo. If we had a congress with some guts and respect for the constitution he would already have been impeached.


30 posted on 04/07/2012 10:44:50 AM PDT by calex59
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To: fatnotlazy

Yep, do we vote for the Democrat gun grabber or the GOP gun grabber?
As the motto goes, we need a choice not an echo.
I just got Richard “DREAM Act” Lugar’s kind supply of an absentee ballot in the mail today to assist me voting for the GOP in the May primary.
Unlike Dick, I live in Indiana. It is in pieces in my round file.


31 posted on 04/07/2012 10:46:00 AM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives)
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To: raptor22
'The Congress doesn't count, the Congress doesn't mean anything, I am going to rule by decree and by administrative regulation.'

Since those are in quotes...I'd like to see the actual quote...and time stamp when he said it...

That clearly is an unbelievable statement that needs to be run daily during the election cycle...

I would call for impeachment but our gop lead congress wouldn't impeach Zero if he raped little children on prime-time network TV....after all to accuse him of being a pedophile, that would be racist...

32 posted on 04/07/2012 10:46:00 AM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: fatnotlazy

Not much of an improvement policy-wise. But Obama’s takeover is not primarily through policy. His takeover is primarily through the mechanisms of tyranny.

I hope and pray that Romney is not our nominee. But when it comes time to vote we need to make sure that we consider not only the POLICIES at issue but also the MECHANISMS at issue.

Here are a couple of posts that explain more of what I mean:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2869256/posts?page=18#18

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2869256/posts?page=27#27


33 posted on 04/07/2012 10:53:19 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: MasterGunner01

Hitler’s atrocities were all made possible by the Enabling Act of 1933, where the Reichstag allowed Hitler to make laws - even unconstitutional laws - without any input from the Reichstag. The Reichstag voluntarily gave up its check on Hitler.

I’m sure they all thought they were the “good guy”.

Some thought the Reichstag was too limited and partisan to facilitate economic recovery. Some swallowed Hitler’s promise to recognize the Vatican. Some had already been rounded up as the supposed perpetrators of the Reichstag fire. All were surrounded by SS troops milling about as the vote was taken.

America needs to learn from history, or we are doomed to repeat it.


34 posted on 04/07/2012 10:59:46 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: raptor22
And while it seems fanciful in light of the safeguards built into our democracy and its institutions, it recognizes the threat posed by the president's policies and actions if left unchecked.

It is not 'fanciful'. Safeguards can be nullified and bypassed. If Zero gets re-elected, all bets are off, especially Constitutionally provided rights. We are on the precipice of a very dangerous time period in our Republic's history.


35 posted on 04/07/2012 11:06:48 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (2012 isn't an election - it's a restraining order.)
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To: raptor22

The list does not include the “Recess appointment” when there was no recess. Rest assured these people do not intend to follow the law or to leave office. If they can’t steal this election through election fraud they will foment racial unrest and declare martial law. Then they will negate the election and stay in office forever.

That was the purpose of the 2nd Amendment, to deal with this situation.


36 posted on 04/07/2012 11:19:38 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: raptor22

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgrjbFofM-s


37 posted on 04/07/2012 11:24:12 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("If you bought it - a truck brought it" - and because of the price of gas/it costs more.)
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To: Psalm 144
It has crept that way since 1989 at slower or faster pace under one POTUS and Congress or another, but never without steady encroachments.

Go back another hundred years. It began when Vladimer Lenin sent Julious and Armand Hammer to the USA to raise money for the Communists in Russia to help them overthrow the Tsar. Two of their early recruits were Arthur Sulzberger, publisher of the New York Times, and Senator Albert Gore Sr., of Tenn.

38 posted on 04/07/2012 11:31:09 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: raptor22
Question: "Is Obama 'Dangerously Close To Totalitarianism'?"

Response: No.

Comment: He is merely an apostle of the formlessness that is now our lot in life. He does not have the ability to be a tyrant. The truly sad event was his election by a population whose main values have become: eating, drinking, drugging, copulating, evacuating the bowels, snoring and "The Games!" That is why the clown is in office.

39 posted on 04/07/2012 11:37:35 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: raptor22; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy
RE:” I think the president is dangerously close to totalitarianism,” Napolitano opined. “A few months ago he was saying, ‘The Congress doesn't count, the Congress doesn't mean anything, I am going to rule by decree and by administrative regulation.’
“Now he's basically saying the Supreme Court doesn't count. It doesn't matter what they think. They can't review our legislation. That would leave just him as the only branch of government standing.”
Some would consider this borderline hyperbole. But this is, after all, a president who has said he can't wait for Congress to act and will govern by executive order and regulations if necessary. He has questioned the Supreme Court's “unprecedented” review of ObamaCare

His argument is slightly different in the two cases. In the Obama-care case he is saying that the Pelosi congress SHOULD trump the SCOTUS who should not overturn any of the laws they passed. In the present case he is running against congress.

It is an election year. He is telling voters that he stands with them against the ‘conservative’ congress and the ‘conservative’ court’(and oil companies and the rich....). The only question is what side voters will choose.

He and Democrats did manage to make the Citizen's United decision unpopular, as most voters only know what he said about it at the SOTU.

40 posted on 04/07/2012 11:45:37 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: reagan_fanatic

” If Zero gets re-elected, all bets are off, especially Constitutionally provided rights. We are on the precipice of a very dangerous time period in our Republic’s history.”

We are already THERE!!


41 posted on 04/07/2012 11:51:27 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs; All

” It is an election year. He is telling voters that he stands with them against the ‘conservative’ congress and the ‘conservative’ court’(and oil companies and the rich....). The only question is what side voters will choose.”

And the silence by GOP Congress makes Obama’s points for him. I think they want to lose, just like McCain.


42 posted on 04/07/2012 11:54:02 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

>>>He is merely an apostle of the formlessness that is now our lot in life. He does not have the ability to be a tyrant. The truly sad event was his election by a population whose main values have become: eating, drinking, drugging, copulating, evacuating the bowels, snoring and “The Games!” That is why the clown is in office.<<<

I agree with you in this regard: he doesn’t have what it takes to be a dictator. He aspires to power, certainly. My real concern is what comes after him.


43 posted on 04/07/2012 11:57:33 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: raptor22

NO, he’s way over the line. The only thing holding him back is.....

ummmm.....

ahhh......

God help us if he wins in November.....


44 posted on 04/07/2012 12:05:04 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Good post. Politicians lives are a strange mix of caring and not caring that's hard for outsiders to chart. That's what I picked up from watching the last few presidents.

What I mean is, at one point, a politician may do anything to win, to reshape the entire country. At another time, he or she may kick back, play golf, and just let the days pass until the pension comes.

There are spurts of energy and bursts of activity, but real, devoted fanaticism is harder to find. There are too many perks and privileges. It's hard to get things done and easy to just go with the flow.

So there may be moments of real action and danger, but over the course of an administration the tendency is to inactivity and malaise.

45 posted on 04/07/2012 12:10:52 PM PDT by x
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To: stephenjohnbanker
We are already THERE!!

Yup. The long march of Gramsci's insidious cultural marxism is just about complete.

... Double-thinking ‘fence-sitters', otherwise known as moderates, centrists, and RINOs bear the imprint of these psychological ‘obedience' techniques. These people-in some cases literally afraid of incurring the wrath of name-calling obedience trainers--- have opted to straddle the fence lest they be found guilty of possessing an opinion, one way or another. At the merest hint of displeasure from the obedience-trainers, up goes the yellow flag of surrender upon which it is boldly written:

"I believe in nothing and am tolerant of everything!"
46 posted on 04/07/2012 12:11:50 PM PDT by khelus
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To: raptor22

There is no opposition party. That’s why he can do anything he wants.


47 posted on 04/07/2012 12:13:03 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: butterdezillion
Hitler’s atrocities were all made possible by the Enabling Act of 1933, where the Reichstag allowed Hitler to make laws - even unconstitutional laws - without any input from the Reichstag. The Reichstag voluntarily gave up its check on Hitler. ...

We don't need an Enabling Act. There already are EO's, and the executive branch's alphabet soup of regulatory agencies [EPA, FDA, Dept of Energy, Dept of Education, etc]. Congress has been completely unwilling to use it's 'power of the purse' and defund them.
48 posted on 04/07/2012 12:19:36 PM PDT by khelus
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To: raptor22; All

This term is just a warmup for Obama.... just to see what he can get away with. Now he knows....our Congree is in CONTEMPT OF AMERICA!!!! They do nothing to stop this psychopath.

Next term, he finishes off the country.


49 posted on 04/07/2012 12:19:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: raptor22; All

This term is just a warmup for Obama.... just to see what he can get away with. Now he knows....our Congress is in CONTEMPT OF AMERICA!!!! They do nothing to stop this psychopath.

Next term, he finishes off the country.


50 posted on 04/07/2012 12:20:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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