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Catholic cardinal calls on Christians to wear their crosses every day
The Guardian ^ | 4-7-12 | Damien Pearse

Posted on 04/07/2012 9:46:44 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

Head of the Scottish Catholic church, Cardinal Keith O'Brien, says symbol shows you 'live by Christ's standards in daily life'

Britain's most senior Catholic cleric has called on Christians to wear a cross every day as "a symbol of their beliefs" and to combat the marginalisation of religion in modern society.

The plea by Cardinal Keith O'Brien, head of the Catholic church in Scotland, to be made in his Easter sermon, comes as the Anglican archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, appealed for more people to attend church this Sunday – even if they are "a bit vague" about religion.

Williams, who is marking his final Easter as leader of the Church of England, said he does not "lose sleep" over the fact many people only attend church at Easter and Christmas.

Speaking to BBC Radio 4, he said that he welcomed those with little connection to Christianity who just wanted to "let the story wash over them" knowing that they would not face a "doctrine examination".

But O'Brien will call on Christians to make the cross "more prominent in their lives". Due to speak at Edinburgh's St Mary's Cathedral on Sunday, he will tell them to "wear proudly a symbol of the cross of Christ on their garments each and every day of their lives".

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 2012election; britian; christian; cross; crucifix; election2012; england; europeanchristians; scotland; symbol; uk

1 posted on 04/07/2012 9:46:54 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: narses; NYer; Salvation; Cicero; ninenot

Sign of the Cross ping


2 posted on 04/07/2012 9:52:35 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

As much as Christians should be proud to display their cross,living and practicing as a Christian is what is needed. The cross is a reminder of our Redeemer and the price he paid for our sins, not an advertisement. Actions always speak louder than words. Walk the walk and talk the talk and the rest who truly believe, will follow.


3 posted on 04/07/2012 10:03:26 AM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I do, as a public profession of my faith. It is an unusual cross and I get asked about it often. I bought it in Juarez, Mexico and have worn it ever since. It is a silver cross, (1 1/2 x 1 inch), with rounded edges. It has a dove at the intersection of the cross. In Spanish it says, “Jesus Es Mi Senor”, (”Jesus is my Lord”).

While I don't think images of Jesus are proper, I wouldn't wear one, but crucifixes, on others, don't bother me. I would not have a picture of Jesus, (since none exist, except for maybe the shroud), in my house. I wouldn't want one in my church, yet I have attended churches where they did have them.

4 posted on 04/07/2012 10:40:44 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: john drake

I wear a St. Christopher. Yeah, I KNOW he isn’t a saint, and I should wear a cross instead, but it was a present from my (very Protestant) Mother when I got my first motorbike.
Worn it ever since, 24/7/365 and only taken it off once for a week in 43 years to have it cleaned and the clasp repaired.
It stayed on through two deployments, hospital stays, the works.
It is there. I look at it from time to time and think of my parents. Then I phone them. But most of the time it is simply there, on my neck.

Not really thought about.

You are wise - our faith, whether you are Catholic, Protestant, primitive church, Orthodox requires us to live our faith.

Sometimes that does mean talking about it or displaying it. There are powerful witnesses to the Lord on here. People who have made this newbie feel at home and who discuss our different takes on religion gracefully. A couple who have taken me to the woodshed, in the nicest possible way. A couple who, while we disagree about our methods of worship, are people I am fast considering firm friends.

I have often thought that one of the reasons the Church commanded us to do good works, to our abilities, is to remind us that faith is not something you put on on Sunday (or Saturday, or Friday, or for bible study Wednesday night in a drafty church hall). It is a constant way to remind us to live our faith.
Not just pull it out and look at it sometimes, like my poor but beloved medallion.


5 posted on 04/07/2012 10:57:17 AM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: faucetman
I frequently wear a silver Ethiopian cross brought to me from Africa by a friend. Mine is similar to the picture below, but there are no two alike. Mine is a little more "cross-like". I also have a gold cross set with garnets for "dress up" occasions.


6 posted on 04/07/2012 10:58:41 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I used to wear one that was made of antique nails lashed into a cross. Rustic. Got lots of comments. Wore it until the day I helped move a dresser upstairs, I was on the bottom and the top guy lost his grip. The weight of the dresser pressed that cross into my chest and bloodied me up some. I sort of wish it had left a scar. Anyway, a word to the wise - don’t wear a cross made of nails unless adhoc piercing is on your mind.


7 posted on 04/07/2012 11:07:57 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: john drake

This has a much more secular purpose. That Christians behave in a Christian manner is often too invisible to be noticed by others. And this has paved the way for the government to oppress those who are visibly Christians by denying them the “right” to wear a symbol or express their faith in the secular society.

The government is more than happy to proclaim that “Christianity is dying”, so no longer deserves respect or accommodation. But even if on just one day out of the year, many Christians are identifiable, this will collapse that proclamation.

And to do it on a regular basis will change the perspective of the entire nation.


8 posted on 04/07/2012 11:21:53 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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To: EnglishCon

He has been removed from the universal calendar but not from the martyrology—so the Church still holds that he existed.


9 posted on 04/07/2012 11:24:42 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Hieronymus

Still a great story no matter how “strong” we think ourselves, how mighty our weights, he bore them all without complaint, do that we might be delivered from death.


10 posted on 04/07/2012 11:31:42 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Hieronymus

Still a great story no matter how “strong” we think ourselves, how mighty our weights, he bore them all without complaint, do that we might be delivered from death.


11 posted on 04/07/2012 11:32:05 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: All; Salvation; Coleus; afraidfortherepublic

Let’s all say the Sign of the Cross prayer, hopefully each day, for Religious Liberty. We can say this prayer, even if we only have less than a minute, and it is such a powerful prayer.


12 posted on 04/07/2012 11:41:00 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
comes as the Anglican archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, appealed for more people to attend church this Sunday – even if they are "a bit vague" about religion. Williams, who is marking his final Easter as leader of the Church of England, said he does not "lose sleep" over the fact many people only attend church at Easter and Christmas. Speaking to BBC Radio 4, he said that he welcomed those with little connection to Christianity who just wanted to "let the story wash over them" knowing that they would not face a "doctrine examination".

More pathetic, wishy-washy crap from the outgoing Archdruid of Canterbury. GTFO soon so we can get Dr John Semantu in please...

13 posted on 04/07/2012 11:48:28 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"Williams, who is marking his final Easter as leader of the Church of England, said he does not "lose sleep" over the fact many people only attend church at Easter and Christmas. "

No wonder the Episcopalians are on life support.

14 posted on 04/07/2012 12:44:53 PM PDT by cookcounty (Tigers Smash Yankees ---again!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I started wearing a cross when on combat missions in Iraq and I still wear it daily as a reminder of my faith.


15 posted on 04/07/2012 12:52:14 PM PDT by jesseam
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Thank God Rowan Williams is departing. He is a useless dhimmi. This Cardinal is more what Christians need.


16 posted on 04/07/2012 1:11:19 PM PDT by montag813
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To: john drake

“As much as Christians should be proud to display their cross,living and practicing as a Christian is what is needed. “

One small step at a time good John. We need both, and wearing a cross is the least we can do. The more of us do it on a regular basis the more culturally standard it will become.
Sooner or later folk will start to wonder about the meaning of that little cross, then they will consult the bible.

For now we have the power to influence fashion with our actions and irritate leftist.


17 posted on 04/07/2012 1:27:17 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’m Jewish...As an outsider....back in my schooldays it seemed to me the girls wore crosses more than the boys. This would be a good thing to bring back particularly for the females. With a cross on the neck a boy will treat her with more respect sexually. Will not think she is easy. Plus she will feel she has to live up to certain ideals and not have sex. My 2¢ worth


18 posted on 04/07/2012 1:36:25 PM PDT by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: EnglishCon

St.Christopher still is a Saint, a martyr of 3rd century:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03728a.htm


19 posted on 04/07/2012 1:38:37 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG ...)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I thought Catholics wore a crucifix with a corpus on it while the other denominations wore crosses.


20 posted on 04/07/2012 1:41:51 PM PDT by Coleus (The Divine Mercy Novena Starts on Good Friday)
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To: EnglishCon

St. Christopher is a saint. Period.


21 posted on 04/07/2012 2:07:41 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: dennisw

I’ve never worn a cross because I don’t want to speak or act in a way that would dishonor Christ. However, your words “she has to live up to certain ideals” is making me reconsider, along with all the other posts on the thread. Maybe I need to wear one, and make sure I DON’T dishonor Christ.


22 posted on 04/07/2012 2:37:24 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

23 posted on 04/07/2012 2:49:36 PM PDT by Coleus (The Divine Mercy Novena Starts on Good Friday)
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To: Coleus

That is the St. Francis cross, isn’t it? I was given one of those for graduation by the nuns at Cardinal Stritch University. The nuns laminated a photograph of the cross onto very thin (1/8”) plywood and cut them out with a saw. Then they applied a loop and a silk ribbon on them. They gave those to every student who attended the baccelaureate Mass before graduation. Sad to say, they did not have to give out very many. Most of the class skipped Mass.

Anyhow, I treasure my St. Francis cross.


24 posted on 04/07/2012 4:08:08 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: dennisw
With a cross on the neck a boy will treat her with more respect sexually. Will not think she is easy. Plus she will feel she has to live up to certain ideals and not have sex. My 2¢ worth

Oh, how I wish that were true! I think that sometimes guys consider it a challenge. If it keeps the girl remembering, I suppose that's as much as we can expect.

Shalom!

25 posted on 04/07/2012 4:12:36 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: dennisw

PS You are not an “outsider”. You are akin to revered grandparents. The founders of our religion were all Jews, after all, and the earliest Christians attended both Temple and Church, until the Rabbis kicked them out for talking and arguing too much. So, your tradition is ours too. Your Bible is ours — we just have more books. May God love you on this Passover.


26 posted on 04/07/2012 4:18:37 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Coleus

We all can wear any kind of cross. Catholics are not limited to crucifixes. My sons were given plain wooden crosses at Jesuit High School as a symbol of having attained their Sr. year. These were presented at a “Cross and Ring” ceremony.


27 posted on 04/07/2012 4:21:34 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: dennisw
I’m Jewish...As an outsider...

Woah, now hold on, there. "Outsider?" To the Christian faith, yes, but look: Saul of Tarsus -- of the tribe of Benjamin, a Pharisee among Pharisees, a guy who KNEW The Law and the Prophets inside out -- wrote of Israel as "The cultivated Olive Tree" and of Christians as "wild olive branches" that were grafted into the cultivated tree. Jews are not outsiders that Christians seek to draw into their orbit; the Christians are outsiders who have found Eternal Life in The Stump of Jesse; salvation springing up from the ground through The Root of David; from YOUR OWN OLIVE TREE. All they want is that Jews would recognize that this is what has happened.

I am no Pharisee, nor a Hebrew scholar, but I know much that the Prophets have said, and YOU -- you and your people, the Jews -- have NOT been replaced; The Covenant AND The Promises STILL STAND, for The Righteous One yet upholds them. Messiah yet comes; as a warrior He comes to Zion; a Bridegroom King arrayed for battle riding forth to claim His Bride, to fulfill ALL that The Prophets have written, to turn away violence and shame from Jerusalem.

MARK ME WELL: HE COMES FOR YOU!

28 posted on 04/07/2012 4:28:14 PM PDT by HKMk23 ("Listen to me very carefully, do not put the candle back.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I hate jewelry, but don't mind it on other people. I break necklaces of every kind, the same way I hook earbud cords on everything.

But I will answer the Lenten appeal and fix my best crucifix, wear it tomorrow to Mass.

29 posted on 04/07/2012 4:34:27 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
This is my Russian Soldier's Cross...with me 24/7...


30 posted on 04/07/2012 4:40:01 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Beautiful!


31 posted on 04/07/2012 4:48:00 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: dennisw

You are not an outsider AT ALL, and I, for one, welcome your comments and your participation.

You might get roasted on the fine points of the New Testament from time to time - know I do far too frequently - but these threads are open to all, from what I understand of the rules.

We are, in our fumbling way, trying to know the unknowable. Wisdom is where you find it. Truth just is.


32 posted on 04/07/2012 5:21:51 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
 Your Bible is ours — we just have more books. May God love you on this Passover.

After winter this is the season of nature's budding and renewal and for the Christian Resurrection.... I wish you the best this Easter

33 posted on 04/07/2012 5:43:43 PM PDT by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: HKMk23

That is is some straight from the heart testimony and thanks on this Easter for you and your family!! This is what modern Euro-Christian civilization owes the Jews. My people rebelled against the pagans with all their perversities, homosexual, bestiality, sodomy and otherwise and human sacrifice. This is one of the very serious and important Jewish contributions.
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http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:V-qWuoRT0KAJ:onecosmos.blogspot.com/2006_07_16_archive.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

The default religion of human beings is the practice of human sacrifice. This pathological virus planted deep in the heart of the human species has been given insufficient attention by scholars. Virtually all primitive cultures and ancient civilizations engaged in it. For reasons I try to explain in my book—a book that I promise never to mention again once I rid myself of the dreaded 100 copies—there is something spontaneously but perversely “holy” or “sacred” in the taking of innocent human life.

Obviously, the foundation stone of Judaism is the injunction against human sacrifice, when God tells Abraham not to kill him a son out on highway 61. Superficially, Christianity may be seen as a resuscitation of the sacrificial motif, with the murder of the innocent Jesus, but in reality, this is clearly intended to convey the idea that when we murder innocence, we murder God. The crucifixion of Jesus is meant to be the last human sacrifice, with Jesus standing in for our own murdered innocence (and our own murderous selves). (I actually heard a leftist the other day on Err America argue that embryonic stem cell research is morally justified because the great lesson of Christianity is that it is good for fathers to kill their sons, and therefore, to destroy human embryos.)


34 posted on 04/07/2012 5:53:20 PM PDT by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: dennisw

TY and Bless you.


35 posted on 04/07/2012 8:06:55 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

they went to a catholic college and skipped their final mass together? poor choice..

yes, it’s the San Damiano Cross...have a blessed Easter.


36 posted on 04/07/2012 9:12:41 PM PDT by Coleus (The Divine Mercy Novena Starts on Good Friday)
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