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Tulsa police reportedly make 2 arrests in North Tulsa shootings
FOX News ^ | April 08, 2012 | n/a

Posted on 04/08/2012 3:57:09 AM PDT by Nickname

Tula, Okla. – Two arrests have been made in the North Tulsa shootings that left three African-American men dead, FOX23 reports.

The Tulsa Police Department sent out a press release early Sunday stating that two males had been apprehended.

"Within 24 hours of its formation, the task force "Operation Random Shooter" has completed its mission. At 1:47am, officers apprehended suspects of the North Tulsa shootings that occurred on Good Friday.

Jake England, 19 year old white male, and Alvin Watts, 32 year old white male, have been arrested and will be charged with 3 counts of murder and 2 counts of shooting with intent to kill.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/08/tulsa-police-reportedly-make-2-arrests-in-north-tulsa-shootings/#ixzz1rResNE3v

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: alvinwatts; banglist; bestservedcold; cw2; interracial; jakeengland; oklahoma; racism; shooting; tulsa; whiteonblack
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To: shhrubbery!
Maybe this will turn out to be a missing piece of the puzzle as to motive ... possible revenge for the killing of Jacob England's father?

Revenge would be gunning down the perp and his accomplices if there were any. Driving around randomly shooting Black people just because they are Black is not revenge; it’s called serial or spree killing. And it’s wrong no matter who the shooter or the victims and the colors of their skins.

51 posted on 04/08/2012 7:06:17 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: soycd

Jake England

Chillin just got off work bout to start laying sum tile in a kitchen lots of fun the work never ends gotta have the cash

Share · 13 hours ago via mobile ·

9 people like this.

His last post was just 13 hours ago????


52 posted on 04/08/2012 7:11:49 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: sleddogs

Since some of us don’t have Facebook, will you post some of the comments?


53 posted on 04/08/2012 7:14:16 AM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: Nickname

Wow- they found another instance of white guys shooting blacks

i wonder how many cases of blacks shooting blacks or blacks shooting whites they had to wade through untl they found one


54 posted on 04/08/2012 7:14:22 AM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: SoFloFreeper

And we’re all God’s people. The race baiters are evil, no matter the amount of pigmentation in their epidermis. :)

&&&
Amen!


55 posted on 04/08/2012 7:19:13 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: doug from upland

The comments on any of these cases are hair raising.

Either they’re leftist agitators feeding the narrative or decades of restraint have flown out the window.

That local news sites are permitting such comments and not only that but leaving them up, tells me that at least some of it is feeding the narrative.

Comments would have been locked not so long ago, with nso long ago being measured in months.


57 posted on 04/08/2012 7:21:52 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Nickname

Retaliatory strike at the guys friends maybe?


58 posted on 04/08/2012 7:25:57 AM PDT by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: Nickname

Good. Get them off the street quickly. Tulsa didn’t need this grief.


59 posted on 04/08/2012 7:33:03 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: raybbr
If guilty, will they get the needle in Oklahoma? (or the bug zapper)?

Just wondering.

Sure sounds like a case of "payback" to me, but vengeance is that of the Lord's. If these pukes are guilty, I suspect they will get their just punishment in a conservative, no-nonsense state like Oklahoma. Especially going around random like that and taking people's lives. Can't be countenanced. Nope.

60 posted on 04/08/2012 7:35:03 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (NO time for malaise/lethargy on FR! Fact is, FREEPERS UNITED CAN help stop Mitt's nomination effort)
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To: maggief

Crap it reads like a scene right out of “C.O.P.S.” !


61 posted on 04/08/2012 7:39:18 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (NO time for malaise/lethargy on FR! Fact is, FREEPERS UNITED CAN help stop Mitt's nomination effort)
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To: maggief
Ethnic background?

Considering it's Oklahoma, probably mixed white/American Indian.

62 posted on 04/08/2012 7:40:50 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: Strategerist

So England has a man coming at him that he knows is armed and wants to do him harm so he beats him with a stick and the guy that wished to do him harm shoots him with a gun. The shooter gets away without being charged for murder since it was self defense.

Meanwhile in Florida, a guy is facing murder charges because he shot a black kid that was beating him up despite him not making any overt threats to the kid.

Sounds like his father’s case is exactly what the Martin supporters think their case is. Where’s Sharpton and Jackson demanding justice for Mr England?


63 posted on 04/08/2012 7:41:43 AM PDT by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: maggief
Sheran Wilde Born: Mon May 25, 1987 Died: Tue Jan 10, 2012

Obituary notes: She is survived by her fiancé, Jacob Carl “Jake” England; children, Madysen Haley Wilde, Devin James Wilde and Jacob Carl England, II; parents, Sherman and Cindy Wilde; brothers, Seth Ryan Lang and Sherman “Trae” Wilde, III, all of Tulsa; and many other relatives and friends.

64 posted on 04/08/2012 7:44:36 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: MD Expat in PA
And it’s wrong no matter who the shooter or the victims and the colors of their skins.

Thanks for stating the obvious.

65 posted on 04/08/2012 7:44:43 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: sleddogs

I’m not on Facebook. We know that Jake’s father had been killed by a black guy. What also contributed to his going off was the death of his fiance, Sheran Hart Wilde, at the age of 24 in January. Any notes there about Sheran’s cause of death?


66 posted on 04/08/2012 7:50:53 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625

She was the mother of three, and pregnant.


67 posted on 04/08/2012 7:51:19 AM PDT by maggief
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To: RightOnline

Yep. That kinds jumps out at you doesn’t it?

The MSM is chock full of despicable bastards....


68 posted on 04/08/2012 7:52:22 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: shhrubbery!

If that guy is white, Obama is white.


69 posted on 04/08/2012 7:54:19 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: maggief

that boy has some Mongoliod race DNA in him

don’t look Choctaw or Cherokee to me

wonder if media will mention that

is Tulsa where the blacks killed the old couple recently...the wife and the WWII vet?

related?


70 posted on 04/08/2012 7:56:09 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: wardaddy

Native Americans *are* Mongoloids, iirc.


71 posted on 04/08/2012 7:59:01 AM PDT by babyfreep
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To: SoFloFreeper

Now now, ALLEDGED scumbags. That innocent till proved guilty thing. Although it only seems to apply when perp and victim fit the correct Pravda.


72 posted on 04/08/2012 8:04:59 AM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: PapaBear3625
Looking for clues about the girlfriend's suicide, Sharan Wilde's MySpace entry in 2010 has:

I miss u jeremy!

Current mood:sad

Every day that passes by i think about u more! i have a problem and will never be able to fix it because money cant fix life or death. I love u and miss your hugs more than ever! R.I.P WORM aka Jeremy loyal alfred. Lawson


73 posted on 04/08/2012 8:06:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: babyfreep

That was my point poorly made...he doesn’t look Indian
But he is no “wood”


74 posted on 04/08/2012 8:07:37 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: txrangerette

It is no coincidence that the shootings and these arrests follow the atrocities committed by Tyrone Woodfork upon the Straits. The racial atmosphere is as volatile as it has been since the riots of the (18 and 19) sixties. (New York in 1863 and Watts in 1965, Detroit in ‘66, and Newark in ‘67 as examples)


75 posted on 04/08/2012 8:10:40 AM PDT by Temujinshordes (I was advised to "Pull your helmet down to the top of your boots and get in between them")
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To: MD Expat in PA
Revenge would be gunning down the perp and his accomplices if there were any. Driving around randomly shooting Black people just because they are Black is not revenge; it’s called serial or spree killing. And it’s wrong no matter who the shooter or the victims and the colors of their skins.

I agree with you wholeheartedly.

76 posted on 04/08/2012 8:14:08 AM PDT by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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To: Nickname
A 19 year old and a 32 year old hanging around together?

Like the Washington shooter pair a couple of years ago.....?

77 posted on 04/08/2012 8:14:11 AM PDT by spokeshave
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To: PapaBear3625

http://claremoreprogress.com/fortherecord/x1753177989/For-the-Record/print


78 posted on 04/08/2012 8:16:33 AM PDT by maggief
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To: amishman

My guess is Native American descent. Oklahoma is rich with NA tribes.

My .02

MFO


79 posted on 04/08/2012 8:21:29 AM PDT by Man from Oz
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To: maggief
The late girlfriend had three kids by the age of 24, the third apparently by England, and was allegedly pregnant with a fourth when she died. She was a bit wild by the arrest report. Her MySpace photo has her looking more Native American than European white. Doesn't quite fit the narrative.

That said, I haven't seen anything about evidence tying England to the shootings, other than he's white and had ranted on Facebook (another reason why I stay away from facebook and keep my rantings on reasonably-anonymous forums)

80 posted on 04/08/2012 8:28:39 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625
Jake England

Just chilling

Share · Friday at 1:17pm via mobile ·

3 people like this..

Ashley Campbell u still owe me jake thats the least u cld do
Friday at 1:59pm · 1.

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RECENT ACTIVITY

Jake and Saunia Nelson are now friends.
· Add Friend.

Jake England

Today is two years that my dad has been gone shot by a fucking ni**er it's hard not to go off between that and sheran I'm gone in the head.
RIP
. Dad and sheran I
. Love and miss u
I think about both of u every second of the day

Share · Thursday at 1:04pm via mobile
____________________________________________________

In the 24 hrs. between those two posts, he allegedly went out and shot 5 people, 3 of them died.

His demeanor is seemingly normal. He is either one cold mofo or they got the wrong guy.

81 posted on 04/08/2012 8:51:39 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Oops, meant to include this also
____________________________________________________

Jake England

Chilling at that house people talking shit on me for some shit I didn’t do lil man and cady Ian’s here I do believer it just mite be the time to call it quits I I hate to say it like that but I’m done if something does happen tonite be ready for another funeral later

Share · Friday at 8:15pm via mobile ·

4 shares.

Jake England I’m cool I’m not guard do anything my son is the only thing I have to live for
Yesterday at 7:34am · 2.

Cordelia Rose Leonard ok jake we jst all care about u if u need anythng im hear 4 u..
23 hours ago


82 posted on 04/08/2012 8:55:49 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

They were under a lot of pressure to arrest SOMEBODY real soon. I’ll be interested in what evidence they have.


83 posted on 04/08/2012 9:05:49 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: chemicalman

Comrade Obama is stoking the flames of white guilt in anticipation of the coming election.


84 posted on 04/08/2012 9:12:14 AM PDT by monocle
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To: PapaBear3625
Yep, I agree 100%. Interesting NO guns have been recovered but if they had half a brain they would have disposed of them.

I dunno, it all strikes me a bit too convenient at this point, I'm in the wait and see mode.

If it turns out that these are not the perps and they are released, that could become a an interesting scenario in its self.

85 posted on 04/08/2012 9:13:43 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Nickname

Not sure if this was posted before, but the father of Jake England is the late Carl England. He was killed by a black man two years ago.
http://www.news9.com/story/17359290/north-tulsa-shooter-arrested-two-years-after-fathers-murder


86 posted on 04/08/2012 9:18:40 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Nickname

Also in Oklahoma - but not in the MSM...

  • Tyrone Dale David Woodfork
    TYRONE DALE DAVID WOODFORK

    AGE: 19

    ARRESTED: Thursday, March 15, 2012

    CITY: Tulsa

    CHARGES: Armed robbery (two counts), first-degree burglary, assault with a dangerous weapon, first-degree murder.

     

    Couple met and married within a month and stayed together for 65 years... only to be parted after home invader beat wife to death

    Home invasion: Bob and Nancy Strait were both attacked when burglars broke into their home in Tulsa. Mrs Strait died of her injuries

    Home invasion: Bob and Nancy Strait were both attacked when burglars broke into their home in Tulsa. Mrs Strait died of her injuries

    Mr Strait, who served in the 101st Airborne Division in World War II, suffered a broken jaw, broken ribs and severe bleeding. He is in a serious condition in hospital.

    • Nancy Strait, 85, was sexually assaulted and battered to death by burglar
    • Her husband Bob, 90, suffered a broken jaw and broken ribs in attack
    • Police have arrested 20-year-old Tyrone Dale David Woodfork

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html

 

 

 

87 posted on 04/08/2012 9:31:04 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: doug from upland; All

Sorry, was on my way out the door to the Easter Cantata at our Church.Just seen everybody’s post s asking for some posts on the Facebook links.

Me bad, I assumed everybody has a Facebook account.Duh!


88 posted on 04/08/2012 10:03:25 AM PDT by sleddogs
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To: IMR 4350
>"I don't have a doubt in my mind Zippo is going to be forced out"

They ALL need to be removed. Every last one. All three branches are poisoned. We need a massive prune job on the tree of liberty!

89 posted on 04/08/2012 10:05:13 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: maggief

One of the older posts on the wall of his facebook page mentioned that he was half Native American. That mugshot sure appears to confirm it. I wonder if he will now be described as white-Indian, or white-Native American, or white-American Indian? Describing his ethnicity could get very complicated as the MSM twists itself into a pretzel.


90 posted on 04/08/2012 10:08:33 AM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: lonevoice

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=297&articleid=20120408_297_0_Tomnhv525414

Comments:

Cherokee Vote (1 hour ago)
Jake Englad is Native American...not white.

Trust (1 hour ago)
Jake claims to be white on his facebook page...in his own words...check it out..

Cherokee Vote (1 hour ago)
We know, Jake. He’s Native American...I don’t care what his page says.

//

Facebook (now pulled):

Jake England

DIRTY WHITEBOY

April 2 at 8:44pm via mobile

//

http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story/TPD-makes-two-arrests-in-North-Tulsa-shootings/-MEmzmQDS0-nEAB1MYymYQ.cspx

Comments:

watchdog11 - 11:27 AM

England is part black, I lived two doors down from him for 4 years.


91 posted on 04/08/2012 10:11:17 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Strategerist
Alvin Watts, however, looks to be of 100% “White Idiot” descent.

Yep, and he posted a message on his facebook page that said "O.B.A.MA. One Big Ass Mistake America." The media will love that one.

Garnered from reading all the messages on his facebook page: he has two, maybe three illegitmate kids. He's in some kind of confrontation with others in his orbit of acquaintances on a very regular basis, often employing physical confrontations and threats of violence.

One message from a former girlfriend, and mother of at least one of his illegitimate kids, mentions that she broke up with him because he physically threatened a 68-year-old heart patient.

He sounds like a real sweetheart < /sarc>

92 posted on 04/08/2012 10:21:13 AM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
If it turns out that these are not the perps and they are released, that could become a an interesting scenario in its self.

Currently, it looks like all they have is an "anonymous tip", which could just be from somebody who doesn't like them.

Could be the cops did a bit of data mining that they don't want to draw attention to, like checking cell phone records to see who was in each area at the time of the shooting (the cell phone system has to continuously know which cell tower your phone is nearest to in order to route incoming calls to your phone -- without doubt Homeland Security has mandated that phone companies permanently retain such data) and cross checked it with car ownership records of matching car types and DMV records(to look up the race of potential suspects).

93 posted on 04/08/2012 11:03:56 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: maggief
I should have pinged you to #92, since you're so good at chasing down stuff.

If these turn out to be the right guys arrested for these murders, I'd guess Alvin Watts is the more likely shooter.

94 posted on 04/08/2012 11:04:52 AM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: LomanBill

I just can’t believe the media missed that one...


95 posted on 04/08/2012 11:09:10 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Could be the cops did a bit of data mining that they don't want to draw attention to

I also got the impression from his last post he knew what was coming, he knew there were accusations against him.

He could have only got that from his circle of friends so maybe it was someone he knew that has it out for him and tipped off the cops?? (Rightly or not)

Just speculating...

96 posted on 04/08/2012 11:21:01 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Does it appear to you that the “funeral” he referred to was probably his own?


97 posted on 04/08/2012 11:21:19 AM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: builder; MD Expat in PA
"Revenge would be gunning down the perp and his accomplices if there were any. Driving around randomly shooting Black people just because they are Black is not revenge; it’s called serial or spree killing. And it’s wrong no matter who the shooter or the victims and the colors of their skins."

"I agree with you wholeheartedly."

Looks like the both of you couldn't wait to go on FR threads and trumpet your own righteousness -- while misconstruing the comments of other FReepers.

Do you actually believe that FReepers are condoning "Driving around randomly shooting Black people just because they are Black " ... just because we are discovering and commenting on a possible revenge motive for Mr. England?

98 posted on 04/08/2012 11:22:52 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: Silentgypsy

Yeah, it would seem to be.


99 posted on 04/08/2012 11:24:34 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Nickname

Are the Media Meathaads blaming the incivility coming from the WH for this?
Or, the OWSers angry rhetoric?


100 posted on 04/08/2012 11:41:17 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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