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Mike Wallace has died
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Posted on 04/08/2012 7:40:55 AM PDT by null and void

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To: WinOne4TheGipper

“...We used to be thoroughly decent, even to those who were not decent to us....”

No offense, but could be that’s why we’re losing our country to them.

Marquess of Queensbury rules no longer apply, my friend. The other side wants us and everything we love erased.

If they understood “Live and Let Live”, and lived it, I’d be inclined to agree with you. But they don’t.

It’s a different world, and gentleman’s rules no longer apply. That went out the window the day that their White house sockpuppet said “if they bring a knife, we bring a gun...”


201 posted on 04/09/2012 8:57:19 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: coon2000
Per Brokaw who spoke with Chris Wallace, he had dementia and passed away in a facility. He could recognize his family, but not his coworkers, nor remember his work as a leftist reporter. There is some satisfactory irony and justice in that. The Lord wiped his mind of his perfidy; wonder how that now bodes for his afterlife, if he has one.
202 posted on 04/09/2012 8:59:24 AM PDT by twister881
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To: NFHale

” Just because the guy died doesn’t erase the damage he we was intentionally doing with some of reporting.

Maybe it would be different if he had actually had some remorse over the way he went about “reporting”, and said so publically.

But I too have a hard time giving him an “RIP” send-off. CodeToad is spot-on; he did our country harm, and in doing so endangered hundreds of thousands of our people. He helped the other side to drive their agenda forward.

So I wouldn’t call it “hatred” as much as it is just one less of “them” to do us any further detriment.

At the end of the day, there’s those on our side, and those on their side. He made his choice, and it wasn’t for us.

I will say that I hope he made his peace with God. But that’s about all I can say.”

My sentiments as well. If he made peace with God, he will be forgiven. Wallace did us dirt.


203 posted on 04/09/2012 9:06:14 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

You know SJB, I never, ever, understand the sudden need to play nicey-nice with the other side when one of them finally kicks off.

I never felt that “we’re bigger than that...” as some of the posters out here have said. It isn’t about being “bigger”.

It’s about winning a war that’s being waged against us.

The other side COUNTS on our side being “decent” and “compassionate” and “tolerant”...and that’s why we are where we are right now. On the doorstep of losing the country to them.

Same thing when Fat Ted Kennedy died, John Murtha, etc.. We’re suddenly supposed to forget all the damage they did?

I don’t know about most other folks, but I have a VERY difficult time doing that...as a matter of fact, it’s impossible for me to do so.


204 posted on 04/09/2012 9:32:41 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: blueunicorn6
It's sad that it took 11 posts before anyone mentioned that he was a pinko.

The hell with all the RIP stuff - Good riddance to liberal trash and I'm sorry it took so long.

205 posted on 04/09/2012 10:14:49 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: NFHale

” You know SJB, I never, ever, understand the sudden need to play nicey-nice with the other side when one of them finally kicks off.

I never felt that “we’re bigger than that...” as some of the posters out here have said. It isn’t about being “bigger”.

It’s about winning a war that’s being waged against us.”

And this is a war for “all the marbles” The Americommunists aren’t even pretending to be “good ol liberals” anymore. Now they RUN the MSM, and the White House, daring us to do something about it.


206 posted on 04/09/2012 10:35:07 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: NFHale

” The other side COUNTS on our side being “decent” and “compassionate” and “tolerant”...and that’s why we are where we are right now. On the doorstep of losing the country to them.

Same thing when Fat Ted Kennedy died, John Murtha, etc.. We’re suddenly supposed to forget all the damage they did?”

Decent? Tolerant? N O !!!!

I will not trade so-called decency, or “tolerate” pure EVIL!
The GOP seems to be quite “tolerant”, and we are losing our country a little more each day.Yes, each day! I pray every day for evil men to see the light. I will NOT say RIP.


207 posted on 04/09/2012 10:41:26 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“Now they RUN the MSM, and the White House, daring us to do something about it.”

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And our answer is the moderate Democrat, Mitt Romney.

We are losing. Badly.

Sadly, maybe true Conservatism is much more of a tiny niche of the population, than I ever believed.


208 posted on 04/09/2012 10:41:36 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Chode

Mr. Wallace was a flame left liberal.


209 posted on 04/09/2012 10:43:51 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Slump Tester

Be gone Mr. Wallace!


210 posted on 04/09/2012 10:45:13 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: TribalPrincess2U

That should be his epitaph.


211 posted on 04/09/2012 10:47:57 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: EyeGuy

” And our answer is the moderate Democrat, Mitt Romney.

We are losing. Badly.

Sadly, maybe true Conservatism is much more of a tiny niche of the population, than I ever believed.”

Conservatism is alive and well, BUT...

We allowed public schools, the MSM, and our universities to control dialogue. The left OWNS the main means of communication in America. Romney? A whore. Obama? A communist dictatorwho is determined to destroy the economy, so just enough people will end up on the dole, and will keep the left in power, out of fear.

We need monthly Tea Parties on a national scale....not once a year.


212 posted on 04/09/2012 10:52:41 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“We need monthly Tea Parties on a national scale....not once a year.”

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An excellent idea.

However, I think we run up against the fundamental POLITICAL weakness of the decent, honest people that make up the vast bulk of conservatives: We are simply too busy doing constrctive things with our Church, our family, our businesses and our property, to have time for fighting the professional shit disturbers who work for the Communists.


213 posted on 04/09/2012 11:05:33 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: EyeGuy

” We are simply too busy doing constructive things with our Church, our family, our businesses and our property, to have time for fighting the professional shit disturbers who work for the Communists.”

We have to make the time. There are millions of well off, retired conservatives, and those who are self employed need to take a couple days a year to stop this communist onslaught.
Nobody is going to do this for us.


214 posted on 04/09/2012 11:12:57 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: MeganC

How about this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY


215 posted on 04/09/2012 1:04:09 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Anyone not wanting an ID or purple thumb to vote isn't worthy of voting privilege.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
that he was...
216 posted on 04/09/2012 2:55:26 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: null and void; TigersEye; stephenjohnbanker

Mike Wallace was a relative of Joseph Goebbels.

He was more interested in propaganda than truth.

As such he had little dedication to the 1st amendment rights of media consumers.

Like I would say in relation to any leftist propagandist, I believe Wallaces present condition becomes him.


217 posted on 04/09/2012 5:02:08 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: P-Marlowe
My post 42 as well as at least one other on this thread, acknowleged both the differences in our political orientations and the most basic common human decency to wish that he now RIP.

On the one hand it's the most I can offer and on the other hand the least I can offer.

218 posted on 04/09/2012 5:17:44 PM PDT by prairiebreeze
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To: Candor7; null and void; TigersEye; NFHale

” Mike Wallace was a relative of Joseph Goebbels.

He was more interested in propaganda than truth.”

Wallace was a life long bully, and an enemy. Pray for his soul, but understand that on earth he was EVIL.


219 posted on 04/09/2012 5:18:41 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I will pray for his rebirth as a conservative.


220 posted on 04/09/2012 5:29:48 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

Yeah


221 posted on 04/09/2012 5:38:23 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: prairiebreeze
My post 42 as well as at least one other on this thread, acknowleged both the differences in our political orientations and the most basic common human decency to wish that he now RIP.

How long do we have to wait after his funeral before we can all, in good conscience and in the interests of historical accuracy, once again acknowledge that he was a treasonous SOB who candidly stated that if given the opportunity he would not try to warn American soldiers that they were walking into a Taliban ambush.

When can we once again say what we all said about him before he died?

222 posted on 04/09/2012 5:59:16 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Kaslin
"Do you realize that someone means one person and you going of the subject of my complain of the subject"

WOW! What an intelligent statement you made and I should bow down at your feet for that. SomeONE means ONE person and not someONEs??? I don didn’t now that, Missy/Mistersy? I not going off (oops, of – your quote) the subject, but waz just stating another example of how FR has changed over the years and how the level of tolerance has been lowered to the point that JimRob would let such a statement still stand, as addressing Christmas (therefore Jesus) with a “F”owl word.

Why are you so disappointed? You’ve been around? Have you been too busy posting and running that you have not noticed what FR has become lately? No, “we” are not better than that anymore. And NO, I am not going "of" the subject.

223 posted on 04/09/2012 6:06:15 PM PDT by Chong
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To: P-Marlowe

When our consciences allow, it seems. That apparently varies from one nanosecond on the Breaking News FR thread for some, to waiting to post discontent about the deceased on an alternate thread or not at all for others.

It’s appearances, I suppose, that bothers me and a few others on this thread, among other things. Respectfulness of the deceased’s family, a desire for the forum to not be viewed as hateful.

You know...conservative values.


224 posted on 04/09/2012 7:41:18 PM PDT by prairiebreeze
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To: prairiebreeze
It’s appearances, I suppose, that bothers me and a few others on this thread, among other things. Respectfulness of the deceased’s family, a desire for the forum to not be viewed as hateful.

IOW we should be hypocrites and pretend we are really really sorry that someone like Mike Wallace, who literally made a career out of destroying other people's lives finally met his inevitable end?

Oh, I'm so sorry that this SOB lived 30 years longer than my father. He obviously died a premature death and should have lived to be 120. Of course if he had his way, he'd rather have watched our soldiers die at the hands of Taliban terrorists before they were old enough to drink than to risk losing a journalistic scoop. Spit!

Frankly if I happen to walk past the graveyard and see his tombstone, I suspect I will have an uncontrollable urge to relieve myself in the grass.

RIP Mike Wallace.

225 posted on 04/09/2012 8:04:47 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: NFHale; All
201 posted on Mon Apr 09 2012 10:57:19 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by NFHale: “It’s a different world, and gentleman’s rules no longer apply. That went out the window the day that their White house sockpuppet said ‘if they bring a knife, we bring a gun...’”

You won't hear me disagree.

There was a day that politics was the practice of upper-class gentlemen who, when they disagreed, disagreed with civility. Those days are long gone for the Democrats, and on the Republican side, they're largely gone outside RINO circles.

However, the mere fact that we're engaged in a gutter fight with people who in many cases (not all) have no sense of decency or respect for American values doesn't mean yelling on an obituary thread is always the best response. True, the goal isn't to be nice, but the goal **IS** to win, and sometimes tactics perceived as overly nasty can seriously backfire.

I understand the comments by veterans who are furious at Wallace's comments about not warning soldiers of an ambush. That's a fair attack and it will work.

Here's the clip, and note by the way that other reporters on the panel, including Peter Jennings, said they'd try to help the American soldiers even if it risked their life:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGg_dpGhlf0

On this narrow point, I think we can win an argument that because Mike Wallace was willing to make money off reporting on the deaths of American soldiers and do nothing to help them, we can criticize him at the time of his own death. I think Mike Wallace would have to agree with that.

I'm not so sure some of the other comments are helpful to our cause in the context of an obituary thread. Let's remember that Chris Wallace of FOX News may very well end up seeing this thread, and let's write the way we would if we were talking face-to-face with Wallace family members.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/10/chris-wallace-mike-wallace-death-statement_n_1414300.html

226 posted on 04/10/2012 9:01:09 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

“...Let’s remember that Chris Wallace of FOX News may very well end up seeing this thread, and let’s write the way we would if we were talking face-to-face with Wallace family members...”

I absolutely hear and understand your point. And the family has my condolences. It absolutely sucks to lose people you love.

But for myself, I can’t get too worked up over the loss of someone who helped the other side accomplish their goals, in whatever capacity. I have family members who died fighting those same goals. Their memory means a lot more to me.

Again, I point to the likes of Ted Kennedy. Everything he did legislatively - whether he actually believed it was for the good of the country or not - was to the detriment of our people. I would be lying to you if I said that I wasn’t relieved when he finally left us - it meant he could do no more damage.

My point was that he chose sides, and that side wasn’t ours - his own COUNTRY’S side - so I won’t eulogize the guy and pretend he was something other than what he was.

Not going to slam him anymore beyond what I already said, either. It is kind of pointless.


227 posted on 04/10/2012 9:41:09 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

I can respect that, NFHale.


228 posted on 04/10/2012 10:44:08 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

One team, one fight, my friend.


229 posted on 04/10/2012 11:23:13 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: COUNTrecount

What is particularly scary about that link is that Peter Jennings at first gives the patriotic and correct answer; however, under the influence of Mike Wallace, Peter Jennings changes his mind and embraces treason.


230 posted on 04/10/2012 11:34:38 AM PDT by Stepan12
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To: COUNTrecount

What is particularly scary about that link is that Peter Jennings at first gives the patriotic and correct answer; however, under the influence of Mike Wallace, Peter Jennings changes his mind and embraces treason.


231 posted on 04/10/2012 11:34:38 AM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Stepan12
Agreed on Jennings initially giving the right answer and then backing down.

However, I think his second answer may be more a question of admitting the realities of his own likely cowardice in a combat situation where he'd be putting his life at risk to warn Americans of an ambush. Most of us don't know for sure what we'd do in a hypothetical situation until we're there. Basic training and AIT exist for a reason to develop survival skills before they're needed, and embedded reporters who are not former servicemembers are probably going to act like many other civilians who haven't been trained to deal with combat conditions.

I'll give Jennings the benefit of the doubt. There is no doubt what Wallace said.

232 posted on 04/10/2012 12:43:21 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: NFHale

I’m not saying not to fight liberalism. Fight liberalism until the sun goes down and then some. But there is no place for grave-pissing or dancing. That crap is counterproductive.


233 posted on 04/10/2012 6:14:10 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Fighting the Left does not mean that we have to adopt all of their tactics.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Not disagreeing with you, friend.

And I wasn’t grave-pissing. Just merely stating that just because he died, it doesn’t negate the damage he did to other people with his “reporting”.


234 posted on 04/11/2012 4:54:19 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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