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Peter Jennings and Mike Wallace Agree-Reporters First, Americans Second
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Posted on 04/08/2012 11:29:25 AM PDT by smoothsailing

April 1989 archive

Peter Jennings and Mike Wallace Agree

Reporters First, Americans Second

In a future war involving U.S. soldiers what would a TV reporter do if he learned the enemy troops with which he was traveling were about to launch a surprise attack on an American unit? That's just the question Harvard University professor Charles Ogletree Jr, as moderator of PBS' Ethics in America series, posed to ABC anchor Peter Jennings and 60 Minutes correspondent Mike Wallace. Both agreed getting ambush footage for the evening news would come before warning the U.S. troops.

For the March 7 installment on battlefield ethics Ogletree set up a theoretical war between the North Kosanese and the U.S.-supported South Kosanese. At first Jennings responded: "If I was with a North Kosanese unit that came upon Americans, I think I personally would do what I could to warn the Americans."

Wallace countered that other reporters, including himself, "would regard it simply as another story that they are there to cover." Jennings' position bewildered Wallace: "I'm a little bit of a loss to understand why, because you are an American, you would not have covered that story."

"Don't you have a higher duty as an American citizen to do all you can to save the lives of soldiers rather than this journalistic ethic of reporting fact?" Ogletree asked. Without hesitating Wallace responded: "No, you don't have higher duty... you're a reporter." This convinces Jennings, who concedes, "I think he's right too, I chickened out."

Ogletree turns to Brent Scrowcroft, now the National Security Adviser, who argues "you're Americans first, and you're journalists second." Wallace is mystified by the concept, wondering "what in the world is wrong with photographing this attack by North Kosanese on American soldiers?" Retired General William Westmoreland then points out that "it would be repugnant to the American listening public to see on film an ambush of an American platoon by our national enemy."

A few minutes later Ogletree notes the "venomous reaction" from George Connell, a Marine Corps Colonel. "I feel utter contempt. Two days later they're both walking off my hilltop, they're two hundred yards away and they get ambushed. And they're lying there wounded. And they're going to expect I'm going to send Marines up there to get them. They're just journalists, they're not Americans."

Wallace and Jennings agree, "it's a fair reaction." The discussion concludes as Connell says: "But I'll do it. And that's what makes me so contemptuous of them. And Marines will die, going to get a couple of journalists."


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KEYWORDS: mikewallace; mikewallacelegacy; northkosanese; peterjennings; reporterssnort; skewedpriorities; whymediasucks
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One good Marine is a more worthy American than 1,000 Mike Wallaces will ever be.
1 posted on 04/08/2012 11:29:28 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

All you have to know about Mike Wallace is that when the tables were turned on him, he folded like a cheap lawn chair. Could dish it out, but could not take it in. Sounds like almost every liberal I know.


2 posted on 04/08/2012 11:33:24 AM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesHill not text while dri)
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To: smoothsailing

All you have to know about Mike Wallace is that when the tables were turned on him, he folded like a cheap lawn chair. Could dish it out, but could not take it in. Sounds like almost every liberal I know.


3 posted on 04/08/2012 11:33:41 AM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesHill not text while dri)
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To: smoothsailing

Since the end of WWII the media has frequently been involved in the promotion of sedition, treason and vice addiction. It invariably promotes the aforementioned under the guise of “objectivity.”


4 posted on 04/08/2012 11:34:58 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: smoothsailing

Jennings wasn’t even a US citizen at the time...so it was really a hypothetical.


5 posted on 04/08/2012 11:35:03 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: smoothsailing
Damn straight... although I would include airmen, Rangers, Seals, and every veteran who served honorably in the Armed Forces of the United States of America.

Happy Easter.

6 posted on 04/08/2012 11:35:53 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: smoothsailing
My Mother taught me that it wasn't nice to speak ill of the dead.

I'll shut up now.

7 posted on 04/08/2012 11:37:09 AM PDT by Wingy (Don't blame me. I voted for the chick. I hope to do so again.)
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To: smoothsailing

“They’re just journalists, they’re not Americans.”

They’re the official spokepersons for the Dumocraps and enemies of the American people. Even Tecumseh Sherman knew they were enemies of the military he truly wanted them shot on sight.


8 posted on 04/08/2012 11:37:57 AM PDT by max americana
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To: smoothsailing

timely post


9 posted on 04/08/2012 11:43:56 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

I believe it’s because when they where educated they where quietly indoctrinated into communism. For many it was so subtle that they didn’t even detect it. They have been convinced that breaking down tradition is good, the constitution is outdated, killing unborn children helps the health of a woman and giving up freedom and liberty for universal healthcare is a right.

It’s not just the journalist, it’s otherwise normal Americans. They have been blinded to what is going on. They are losing everything and have been conditioned to think it is good.


10 posted on 04/08/2012 11:44:34 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: smoothsailing

I watched that exchanged and was outraged at the idea of fellow Americans,by their inaction,killing servicemen that was protecting them.
Pray for Wallace’s family. But Mike should be sent to the firey depth.


11 posted on 04/08/2012 11:47:32 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: max americana

They’re the official spokepersons for the Dumocraps and enemies of the American people. Even Tecumseh Sherman knew they were enemies of the military he truly wanted them shot on sight.

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I know many southerners are horrified by General Sherman. But from my study of history, he was right more often than not. And his policy of making War on the civilian populace supporting the Armies of the south while horrific in and of itself did assist in shortening the War.

And that policy was used again in World War II in the Air Bombing Campaigns in Europe and Japan.

And he was right about the Journolists, even then they had become rabble-rousers and de-facto enemy agents and spies.


12 posted on 04/08/2012 11:48:36 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Dutch Boy

As some historians have shown collapse comes to all civilizations. We are now experiencing ours. Collapse is a process and takes time. One specific symptom is showing absolutely no power of resistance to the ongoing Third World conquest, indeed many are even helping it. It looks like the West will be the only civilization in history to be conquered solely through the medium of words; i.e. some Third Worlder only has to cry “Racism” and thousands flee in abject terror.


13 posted on 04/08/2012 11:52:16 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: smoothsailing

When I was in school I watched the PBS round tables. I still remember seeing that particular round table. I was disgusted and I never ever believed a word “American” journalists had to say about any of our military involvements from that day forward. It is amazing how one show colored my view of journalism for the rest of my life. Job well done, Mr. Wallace and Peter Jennings!

Colonel George Connell was a hero to me that day. Shame LSM.


14 posted on 04/08/2012 11:55:21 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: smoothsailing

Mike Wallace is a selfish or was a selfish evil little man.


15 posted on 04/08/2012 11:56:50 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: smoothsailing
He came to Ramstein AB tears ago, The base commander ordered that NO ONE talk to him.Went down to the BX where he was waiting for an interview. Sat outside, near the entrance of the BX. A crowd formed. It was interesting to watch him there with all these people staring at him, not saying a word.him in his foreign correspondent’s trench coat.
16 posted on 04/08/2012 12:03:40 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: The Working Man

“And that policy was used again in World War II in the Air Bombing Campaigns in Europe and Japan.”

Yup. No one was more sickened by the daily bombing raids on Tokyo more than Curtis Lemay, USAF commander after he got the greenlight from McArthur to pummel Tokyo. But he knew he had to do it because he wrote in his autobiography, it was simply they surrender or American boys go in for another invasion and they will die. It was a necessity. Regarding the Iraq War, the media tried their best to ruin American soldiers lives but the American people saw thru their BS.


17 posted on 04/08/2012 12:03:51 PM PDT by max americana
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To: smoothsailing

If American citizens who happen to be working on the battlefield as reporters, and decide that it is more important to ‘get the story’, ‘get the footage’, ‘get the pictures’ instead of trying to help or save their fellow Americans, then their families better not bitch and whine when U.S. troops put those traitorous sons o’ bitches right in the cross hairs and blast their asses away with the rest of the enemy forces.


18 posted on 04/08/2012 12:08:25 PM PDT by mkjessup (0bama squats to pee.)
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To: Dutch Boy

The left started the capture of our colleges and universities in the 1930’s. The war and returning veterans slowed it down for a while. For example, my English professor in 1957 was a retired Marine colonel who had fought on Guadacanal, he was very conservative rejecting a lot of trash literature that was being pumped out. Others were very left leaning, i.e. my government professor. In short the 1950’s and early 1960’s were transitional. Apparently the left totally captured the colleges and universities in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s.


19 posted on 04/08/2012 12:10:26 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Chgogal
Colonel George Connell was a hero to me that day.

George Murdock Connell-Hall of Valor

20 posted on 04/08/2012 12:12:19 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

They act so high and mighty about their objectivity. But what about a hypothetical in which they have highly credible evidence of fraud committed by President Obama? Would they come forth with this evidence or would they choose to protect the President? Of course, they would protect.

On the other hand, what if the evidence was against then sitting President Bush? Suddenly, their objectivity and the people’s right to know would win.

This isn’t a hypothetical. History knows it for a fact.


21 posted on 04/08/2012 12:13:59 PM PDT by pjd
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To: smoothsailing

Ia Drang Valley.....In the movie Joe Galloway grabs a gun and starts shooting.


22 posted on 04/08/2012 12:41:34 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: smoothsailing

Mike Wallace was a liberal propagandist douchebag who did nothing but damage this country for decades. I don’t mourn his passing. Let him rot in Hell.


23 posted on 04/08/2012 12:57:47 PM PDT by Astronaut
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To: mkjessup
I, as a civilian have no problem with that. Even if my child were the dumba$$ dummycrat reporter. I think I would have more problem with my child being a dumba$$ dummycrat (shudder) reporter. ; )
24 posted on 04/08/2012 1:07:50 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: smoothsailing
Perhaps the logical solution to recognizing "journalists" as "observers with pens" is to strip them of any and all nationalities as well as the perks that go along with such citizenships.

Give them free reign to travel around the world, recording news events and their own island to live on between assignments.......

These two and all the others seem to have taken on the personna of the gods on Mt. Olympus who sat and watched the events of the world...only these posers write about them.

25 posted on 04/08/2012 1:17:05 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

William Tecumseh Sherman said the following:

“I hate newspapermen. They come into camp and pick up their camp rumors and print them as facts. I regard them as little more than spies, which, in truth, they are.

If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world, but I am sure we would be getting press dispatches from Hell before breakfast.”


26 posted on 04/08/2012 1:24:32 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Terry Mross

“You cannot go into such a thing as a witness and remain just a witness. You can’t be neutral when people are laying down their lives to save your life.”

Read more here: http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2011/09/15/1736301/joe-galloway-you-cant-remain-just.html#storylink=cpy


27 posted on 04/08/2012 1:27:54 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Terry Mross

“Ia Drang Valley.....In the movie Joe Galloway grabs a gun and starts shooting.”

But in real life he didn’t. I read the book, and it was excellent.


28 posted on 04/08/2012 1:29:23 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: mkjessup

when an American is traveling with the enemy...He’s no longer an American...he’s the enemy!!!


29 posted on 04/08/2012 1:35:36 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: ought-six; Terry Mross; ALOHA RONNIE

He was a 24-year-old correspondent in 1965, when the 7th Cavalry Division was surrounded and greatly outnumbered by Viet Cong. When the unit came under heavy fire in Vietnam’s Ia Drang Valley, Galloway risked his life to rescue wounded American soldiers, an act of courage that more than three decades later would earn him a Bronze Star with “V” for valor — an extraordinary tribute to a civilian.

Read more here: http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2011/09/15/1736301/joe-galloway-you-cant-remain-just.html#storylink=cpy


30 posted on 04/08/2012 1:52:04 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Terry Mross

had he been captured, he could have found himself before an NVA officer questioning his status as a non combatant.


31 posted on 04/08/2012 1:57:54 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: smoothsailing

He did not, in real life, pick up a weapon and start shooting. He did perform some heroics, for which he was rightfully recognized; but he did not act as a combatant at anytime during the Ia Drang fight (i.e., he did not take up a weapon and shoot).


32 posted on 04/08/2012 2:01:18 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: smoothsailing

I have been sick all weekend but when I finally was able to poo I swear it looked just like Mike Wallace sitting on the bottom of the bowl. With corn instead of his acne scars. A lot of corn.


33 posted on 04/08/2012 2:13:37 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: ought-six

He said, “I have news for you, son. I have no vacancy for a reporter but I do need a corner machine gunner and you’re it.” So I did that for a few days until we were relieved by an armor column, and the 1st Cav blew in, and that was my first hike with them.

I was leaving the camp and went over to say goodbye to Beckwith, and he allowed that I had been a halfway decent machine gunner, and he said, “Where are you going” and I said, “I’m going with the Cav,” and he said, “You don’t have a weapon.”

I said, “In spite of what you had me do in the last few days, technically speaking I’m a non-combatant.”

And he said “There ain’t no such thing in these mountains son.” He told a sergeant “Get him a rifle” and he gave me an M-16 and I marched out the gate with it on my shoulder.

Q. Had you been in the military or been trained to shoot?

A. Nope. But when you’re a kid growing up in Texas, you learn to hunt, so I could generally make out OK. So I went off with the 1st Cav and that led inevitably toward the Ia Drang valley operation.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2002/03/27/QA-Joe-Galloway-We-Were-Soldiers-Once/UPI-13511017265368/#ixzz1rUC3TqRJ


34 posted on 04/08/2012 2:21:39 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Cyman

I trust you’re feeling better. :)


35 posted on 04/08/2012 2:25:17 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
Reporters didn't travel with the Japanese during the Bataan death march...

they didn't sit in concentration camps while humans were put in ovens.

And they should not be bunking down with the enemy now. It's not 1968 - folks in the MSM need to grow up...

36 posted on 04/08/2012 2:32:15 PM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: smoothsailing

May God have mercy on his soul.

For my part , his life was not a blessing to this earth.


37 posted on 04/08/2012 2:36:23 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: smoothsailing

But when did he shoot the M-16? As far as I recall, he made no mention at all in his book about ever firing a weapon in Ia Drang. If indeed he fired a machine gun or an M-16 he ceased being a non-combatant.

That’s an interesting UPI interview, by the way, and the first I’ve seen it. Being former military myself, I do seriously question the legitimacy or truthfulness of an officer making a civilian reporter a chopper gunner for a few days; it makes for blood-stirring prose, but reality is usually something different. If in a do-or-die, last stand type of scenario where everyone’s life is on the line I can see a civilian reporter perhaps using a weapon (though they would be more apt to try and surrender and claim non-combatant status to save their own sorry asses); but what Galloway described in that interview (which relates to an incident that allegedly occurred before he ever went out to the Ia Drang Valley) just doesn’t sound factual.

But, what do I know?


38 posted on 04/08/2012 2:52:44 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six
But, what do I know?

More than you did before.

39 posted on 04/08/2012 2:56:21 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

“More than you did before.”

Yes, as far as tne interview goes. But I’ve still never seen any documentaion that Galloway ever said he fired a weapon in Ia Drang. And that was the genesis of the original comment. The question thus remains: Did Galloway pick up a weapon and fire it in the Ia Drang Valley? Neither the book nor the interview make any mention of him doing so.


40 posted on 04/08/2012 3:02:25 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

The only reason the Left in this country was in favor of getting involved in WWII was that Poor ol’ Uncle Joe Stalin was under attack. Otherwise when were they for us helping anybody in the past hundred years???


41 posted on 04/08/2012 3:33:07 PM PDT by DeweyShootem
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To: ought-six

(Quote) You cannot always remain a witness, above and removed from the story you are covering. There are some events which demand your participation. The battle of Landing Zone XRay was one such event in my life. I will not here recount every event of that battle which continued until the afternoon of November 16-—and was then followed by an even more horrific battle called Landing Zone Albany which virtually destroyed a sister battalion, the 2nd Battalion 7th Cavalry. At LZ XRay 80 men died and 124 were wounded, many of them terribly. At LZ Albany 155 Americans were killed and another 121 wounded, most of them in the space of six hours time. Four days-—234 Americans killed. Perhaps as many as 2,000 North Vietnamese soldiers of the 33rd, 320th and 66th Regiments also died there, by our hand.

It was a watershed event in the American war in Vietnam. At that point 1,100 Americans had died in Vietnam. Before the war ended a total of 58,200 made the supreme sacrifice for our country.

I left XRay the way I had arrived, aboard a Huey helicopter flown by Bruce Crandall, Ancient Serpent 6. But none of us who survived left there the same man he was when he arrived. We had been drenched in blood and horror. I had heard the command “Fix Bayonets!” and seen men use those bayonets on other men. I had carried both the wounded and dead, hauled ammo and water, and, yes, on occasion I put down my cameras and picked up my rifle and used it. (End Quote)

http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0204/galloway4.htm


42 posted on 04/08/2012 3:40:25 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Terry Mross

Joe Galloway (actor Barry Pepper) with his XM16E1 at the ready.

Source

43 posted on 04/08/2012 3:57:49 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Yup, according to that article he did indeed say he picked up a weapon and used it.


44 posted on 04/08/2012 4:35:03 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: smoothsailing

Can you imagine what would happen to any journalist who tells the American public he could have prevented an ambush of American troops but chose not to just to get a story? Public hanging would be too good for him.


45 posted on 04/08/2012 4:41:49 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: DeweyShootem

While living I cannot personally remember the immediate period before Hitler invaded Russia. I was simply too young. However, my folks remember the left supporting Hitler then having a 180 degree turn about upon Hitler’s invasion of Russia. This sudden change in behavior by the Communists alienated a lot of fellow travelers.


46 posted on 04/08/2012 5:05:46 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: M-cubed

when an American is traveling with the enemy...He’s no longer an American...he’s the enemy!!!

The Associated Press & the rest of the media tries to make it a difficult, moral decision. It is not, it is simple & straight forward, they are the enemy.


47 posted on 04/08/2012 5:41:05 PM PDT by pack29172 (Just remember, when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away...)
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To: smoothsailing

sfl


48 posted on 04/08/2012 5:43:25 PM PDT by know-the-law
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To: Hildy

yep


49 posted on 04/08/2012 5:47:04 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Yep 1968-76 was the transition


50 posted on 04/08/2012 5:51:53 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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