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Cosby on Trayvon Case: Disarm Neighborhood Watchmen
Big Hollywood ^ | April 7, 2012 | John Nolte

Posted on 04/08/2012 7:21:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Give Cosby credit for not being playing the race card, but he's still not thinking this through completely. If an investigation proves Zimmerman's side of the story, "the gun" will end up being what might have saved his life.

We have a God-given right to patrol our own neighborhoods, which can be dangerous work. And if in the act of doing so we are attacked, "the gun" can come in awfully handy.

Let's also not forget that Zimmerman claims he wasn't following Trayvon Martin when the teenager attacked him.

Washington Times:

"The gun.”

Those two simple words flowed easily from the mouth of social commentator Bill Cosby during an exclusive interview Friday regarding the Trayvon Martin case, arguably the most high-profile, citizen-on-citizen U.S. slaying facing the Obama administration.

Trayvon was killed Feb. 26 in Sanford, Fla., by neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman, who told police that a “confrontation” with the unarmed 17-year-old led him to shoot in self-defense.

Mr. Cosby, a Navy veteran, said “the gun” empowered Mr. Zimmerman, whose actions have stirred a firestorm of debate, protests and remarks from President Obama....

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


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I get a big kick out of all the gun-grabbers in Hollywood. Do you suppose they'd want their bodyguards and security to be disarmed? I've protected several celebrities and I was always carrying a firearm even though I'm a big guy.
1 posted on 04/08/2012 7:21:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, just disarm everyone and negate the right of self defense.


2 posted on 04/08/2012 7:23:10 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee! Chicago,,,2 dead and a dozen and a half wounded. Just in one night. If that keeps going, how long will it take before Chicago is depopulated?


3 posted on 04/08/2012 7:24:26 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I do appreciate bill not playing the race card. But it’s easy not to once a whole slew of others including the media already did.

Disarming a neighborhood watch person equals disarming a law abiding citizen. Neighbor watch guy or just a guy seeing something unusual in his neighborhood. Bill fails on this one, folks.


4 posted on 04/08/2012 7:25:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Disarm personal bodyguards, you first Mr Phony


5 posted on 04/08/2012 7:29:08 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Tawana Brawley, Anita Hill, King Rodney, OJ, Duke Lacrosse, Thugvon Martin. See a pattern?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mr Cosby should be careful what he wishes for.Celebrities are far from immune from violent attacks.John Lennon,among others,know that.That is unless he's proposing that *ordinary* folks like *us* be disarmed and “beautiful people” like himself be able to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights
6 posted on 04/08/2012 7:29:46 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think we should all hide in our houses. And be very quiet.


7 posted on 04/08/2012 7:30:24 PM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM (OBIWAN) IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeh....Let’s disarm the cops, too.


8 posted on 04/08/2012 7:30:41 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stick to pudding.


9 posted on 04/08/2012 7:30:51 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Parmy

Let Shill Cosby turn his attentions there...


10 posted on 04/08/2012 7:31:19 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mr. Cosby, a Navy veteran...

I wonder what that has to do with anything.

11 posted on 04/08/2012 7:31:48 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The libs don't want to save da planit. If they did, they'd boycott BIG oil and petroleum products.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
I do appreciate Bill not playing the race card.

Actually,that's true.It never occurred to me that he's refrained from so doing.He should be congratulated for that.

12 posted on 04/08/2012 7:34:39 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cosby on Trayvon Case: Disarm Neighborhood Watchmen

Give him a warm glass of milk, tuck him into bed snugly and tell him everyone still loves pudding pops...

13 posted on 04/08/2012 7:35:26 PM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I dont think disarming Zimmerman would have been the solution.

However, I think if Zimmerman had been better educated in security protocols might have made the difference.


14 posted on 04/08/2012 7:36:35 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bzzzzzt!

Wrong answer, Bill.

Stick to commentary on the problems with Holder’s People, you know, 0bama0’s sons.


15 posted on 04/08/2012 7:37:10 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"Mr. Cosby, a Navy veteran...

I wonder what that has to do with anything."

It just points out that he's speaking from the same point of moral and experiential authority as other great military leaders with Naval background ..... like for instance Jimmy "Let's Not Piss Off the Ayatollah" Carter.
16 posted on 04/08/2012 7:37:39 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

That means he knows his way around firearms, as most hospital corpsman would.


17 posted on 04/08/2012 7:39:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just saw a video clip of Bloomberg saying “Congress should enact a law to make illegal guns illegal!” That was his exact quote.
How in Seven Hells can this man be in charge of anything much less a city?
To paraphrase Gilda’s best quote “ Never Mind!”, it’s NEW YORK!


18 posted on 04/08/2012 7:39:33 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We have a God-given right to patrol our own neighborhoods

That's exactly what I was thinking when I first read Cosby's remarks.
19 posted on 04/08/2012 7:40:51 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I KNEW THIS WAS ALL GOING TO BE USED AS ANTIGUN PLATFORM.

This is the age of bridges, pipelines and neighborhood watches to nowhere... “hey, I am a watcher, but don’t count on me watching or being a witness to anything, I have no weapons to defend myself against thugs, and, in fact, I might as well be paid by them to spy on you people!!!”

I mean, the security and safety freaks of society are so stupid. Who in their right mind would pull hero security like this without a weapon. PUUUULEASSSSSEE ... sign me up for this insanity, I want to pull such neighborhood TSA watch over Cosby’s house, gropping him around and let the world know if he still have a prostate or not... because apparently he is dumbed down wuss.


20 posted on 04/08/2012 7:41:20 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah. I suppose it would’ve been better for the ‘white latino’ to just let Trayvon slam his brains out on the pavement. Heaven forbid he had a means to protect himself./s


21 posted on 04/08/2012 7:43:13 PM PDT by mplsconservative (Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
He should be congratulated for that.

It's pretty sad when people have to be congratulated for NOT being racist.

22 posted on 04/08/2012 7:46:02 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too... @Onelifetogive)
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To: Caipirabob

Bill Cosby is right.


23 posted on 04/08/2012 7:46:35 PM PDT by tommix2 (,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I just read that whole piece.

Cosby owns a Gun. And has a rare permit because he is a celebrity in NYC of all places. The New York press covered this years ago. Who in the world is He to declare that when he has a special permit. Amazing! Hypocrite? You decide.

"understanding crime and gun-control laws John R. Lott ... officials the right to carry concealed guns to places most residents can't: schools, churches, ... concealed- handgun permits: Bill Cosby, Cybill Shepherd, Howard Stern, Donald Trump,

http://books.google.com/books?id=j6cMYKRgqQ8C&pg=PA16&lpg=PA16&dq=Bill+Cosby+carries+a+gun&source=bl&ots=_3aU_c11dX&sig=iWcjXFhA5IsrghKwtPj23iUnJLs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=i0yCT4H2Hcq-tweBp-ifBg&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Bill%20Cosby%20carries%20a%20gun&f=false

24 posted on 04/08/2012 7:48:54 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace

http://books.google.com/books?id=j6cMYKRgqQ8C&pg=PA16&lpg=PA16&dq=Bill+Cosby+carries+a+gun&source=bl&ots=_3aU_c11dX&sig=iWcjXFhA5IsrghKwtPj23iUnJLs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=i0yCT4H2Hcq-tweBp-ifBg&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Bill%20Cosby%20carries%20a%20gun&f=false


25 posted on 04/08/2012 7:49:25 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: tommix2

Bill Cosby is wrong to a point.


26 posted on 04/08/2012 7:53:12 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: JudgemAll

Bill Cosby isn’t being anti-gun per se. He’s referring to the Barney Fifes, who get themselves over their heads because they have a gun.

I’ve had to handle sketchies in my time and often telling them that the police are on their way and you are merely keeping an eye on things is very effective in these situations.


27 posted on 04/08/2012 7:55:28 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cosby’s perspective probably has a lot to do with his own son being shot to death 10+ years ago. I still don’t agree with him but haven’t walked in his shoes either.


28 posted on 04/08/2012 7:58:47 PM PDT by tunedin
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’m sure the rules on Neighborhood Watch vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, and perhaps neighborhood to neighborhood. We did NW for 20 years and never carried any kind of weapon. We were a driving NW, just driving around the ‘hood with a NW sign. We were instructed not to even get out of the car, just call the cops to report anything suspicious.


29 posted on 04/08/2012 7:59:05 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: JudgemAll
I KNEW THIS WAS ALL GOING TO BE USED AS ANTIGUN PLATFORM.

Of course. Never let a good crisis go to waste, y'know.

30 posted on 04/08/2012 8:04:57 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Onelifetogive

I was just thinking the same thing: praising non-racist statements only legitimizes racism as the norm. Pretty soon we’ll have to offer a sentence reduction for criminals who can demonstrate that they committed a “non-hate crime.”


31 posted on 04/08/2012 8:06:49 PM PDT by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Taking into consideration the tragic death of his son several years ago by a white Ukrainian gunman on the side of a freeway, his anti-gun bias is understandable. While he did not race bait I think he could have focused more on the root causes of black criminality and the over-glorification of it in that society.
32 posted on 04/08/2012 8:06:57 PM PDT by shakeyJR
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To: Vendome

It would be way more peaceful if everyone was armed. People would know not to mess with the other guy if they knew he was armed.


33 posted on 04/08/2012 8:06:57 PM PDT by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: Jonty30

Zimmerman would have been better off if also armed with a night vision video cam (it’s the new weapon).


34 posted on 04/08/2012 8:07:45 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: tommix2

See post #24, right below yours.


35 posted on 04/08/2012 8:08:02 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: EDINVA

Are you aware of what had been happening in the gated apartment complex recently? They had a rash of 8-10 burglaries recently, and an armed home invasion.

You don’t give up your 2A rights to self defense on neighborhood watch. He disengaged trayvon and trayvon re-engaged him and started beating the sh1t out of him. It was a self-defense issue, not a neighborhood watch guy playing police.


36 posted on 04/08/2012 8:09:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Easy for him to say, his bodyguard has a bodyguard, I'm sure.
37 posted on 04/08/2012 8:14:30 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Paladin2

The more evidence that can be gathered, the better. I agree with you.


38 posted on 04/08/2012 8:16:28 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Disarm Neighborhood Watchmen"

Oh yeah.... That's the ticket. Had the animal George Zimmerman not be carrying Trayvon would have killed him and saved the New Black Panthers tens of thousands of dollars for the contract they've issued on the "white-hispanic."

What's happened to our country?

39 posted on 04/08/2012 8:17:38 PM PDT by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth (Romney... Just put the (D) behind your name and be done with it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes: when confronted with someone who wants to kill/harm you, it’s best if you just let them.

Otherwise the attacker’s feelings might be hurt and we couldn’t have that.....


40 posted on 04/08/2012 8:23:32 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cosby said Zimmerman was not afraid to confront Trayvon but it was Trayvon who confronted Zimmerman. Zimmerman was being cool and trying to talk quietly to the police so Trayvon would not know he was following him. Trayvon realized he was being followed and ran to lose him and then doubled back and confronted him. I know if I were being followed, I would run and duck out and probably call 911. The person would never have a chance to confront me. But it was Trayvon who was not afraid to confront Zimmerman and it was probably because he trusted in his ability to surprise him.


41 posted on 04/08/2012 8:24:41 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("We Need To Teach The Establishment a Lesson" - Newt Gingrich)
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To: lwoodham
Florida, Texas, Alaska and several other states are de facto pretty much already there. If Trayvon had ever read anything besides Sports Illustrated or Twitter, he might have known that and acted accordingly. I never dated a lady in Mississippi, Alabama or Texas that didn't have a pistol in her purse.
42 posted on 04/08/2012 8:25:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Jonty30
However, I think if Zimmerman had been better educated in security protocols might have made the difference.

And how do you suggest?

43 posted on 04/08/2012 8:26:01 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
While the Zimmerman/Martin ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by a gang of feral blacks in Oklahoma just a few weeks ago?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.

Can you just imagine the pain, the humiliation, the horror that dear old lady experienced being gang raped by that pack of feral animals?

(the autopsy states she was raped. Don’t think all of these animals didn’t all participate)

And can you imagine the pain, the horror of that dear old husband having to witness this?

There’s a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.

WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??

90 year old husband’s jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?

85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??

Why does it take a foreign press to enlighten America as to this henious crime?

Where is the outrage?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html


44 posted on 04/08/2012 8:41:23 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Typical of physically superior racist thugs to sucker punch their victims. Always has been and always will be.

Cosby is a closet racist just like propaganda distortionist Opera Winfrey.


45 posted on 04/08/2012 8:43:11 PM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: Logical me

As I said, you’d be surprised how effective just letting people know you’re watching them and the police are on their way can be. Most lowlifes, if they aren’t serious criminals, will often take off, because they don’t usually want to be in the vicinity when the police arrived.

That usually takes care of the majority of them and that’s based on my personal experience. Trayvon, by all accounts, was not a hardcore gang banger. If George has done that one thing, we probably would have has a vert différent outcome.

If Trayvon has then charged George, Zimmerman would have been perfectly justifier in putting three bullets, centre-mass.


46 posted on 04/08/2012 8:44:13 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: shibumi

Or Sen. John F. Kerry, a Navy veteran, who was sent into Cambodia by President-elect Nixon in December 1968.


47 posted on 04/08/2012 8:45:18 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe we should just lock up all young male Negroes. /s Sadly, that might obviate much of the need for neighborhood watch programs. Bill, you had the right problem in your sights the first time. What happened to you? Why did you cave?


48 posted on 04/08/2012 8:51:29 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: EDINVA
We did NW for 20 years and never carried any kind of weapon.

I am old but I remember the mischief I did when I was fifteen in my neighborhood that would have got me shot if there had been gun carrying neighborhood watch guys around. It is not necessary for neighborhood watchmen to be armed and they are not all mature enough for that responsibility.

49 posted on 04/08/2012 8:54:12 PM PDT by tommix2 (,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I say this with some care...

but Mr. Cosby, where would your son be today if he’d HAD a gun?

The overwhelming majority of the times that a private citizen is armed, it IS the bad guy that is killed. It will probably ultimately be true in the Trayvon case as well.

When your son stopped to change a flat tire, he was unarmed. The bad guy’s won. How did having him unarmed help anything?


50 posted on 04/08/2012 8:57:58 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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