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Cosby on Trayvon Case: Disarm Neighborhood Watchmen
Big Hollywood ^ | April 7, 2012 | John Nolte

Posted on 04/08/2012 7:21:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Give Cosby credit for not being playing the race card, but he's still not thinking this through completely. If an investigation proves Zimmerman's side of the story, "the gun" will end up being what might have saved his life.

We have a God-given right to patrol our own neighborhoods, which can be dangerous work. And if in the act of doing so we are attacked, "the gun" can come in awfully handy.

Let's also not forget that Zimmerman claims he wasn't following Trayvon Martin when the teenager attacked him.

Washington Times:

"The gun.”

Those two simple words flowed easily from the mouth of social commentator Bill Cosby during an exclusive interview Friday regarding the Trayvon Martin case, arguably the most high-profile, citizen-on-citizen U.S. slaying facing the Obama administration.

Trayvon was killed Feb. 26 in Sanford, Fla., by neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman, who told police that a “confrontation” with the unarmed 17-year-old led him to shoot in self-defense.

Mr. Cosby, a Navy veteran, said “the gun” empowered Mr. Zimmerman, whose actions have stirred a firestorm of debate, protests and remarks from President Obama....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; billcosby; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cosby said Zimmerman was not afraid to confront Trayvon but it was Trayvon who confronted Zimmerman. Zimmerman was being cool and trying to talk quietly to the police so Trayvon would not know he was following him. Trayvon realized he was being followed and ran to lose him and then doubled back and confronted him. I know if I were being followed, I would run and duck out and probably call 911. The person would never have a chance to confront me. But it was Trayvon who was not afraid to confront Zimmerman and it was probably because he trusted in his ability to surprise him.

41 posted on 04/08/2012 8:24:41 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("We Need To Teach The Establishment a Lesson" - Newt Gingrich)
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To: lwoodham
Florida, Texas, Alaska and several other states are de facto pretty much already there. If Trayvon had ever read anything besides Sports Illustrated or Twitter, he might have known that and acted accordingly. I never dated a lady in Mississippi, Alabama or Texas that didn't have a pistol in her purse.
42 posted on 04/08/2012 8:25:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Jonty30
However, I think if Zimmerman had been better educated in security protocols might have made the difference.

And how do you suggest?

43 posted on 04/08/2012 8:26:01 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
While the Zimmerman/Martin ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by a gang of feral blacks in Oklahoma just a few weeks ago?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.

Can you just imagine the pain, the humiliation, the horror that dear old lady experienced being gang raped by that pack of feral animals?

(the autopsy states she was raped. Don’t think all of these animals didn’t all participate)

And can you imagine the pain, the horror of that dear old husband having to witness this?

There’s a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.


90 year old husband’s jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?

85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??

Why does it take a foreign press to enlighten America as to this henious crime?

Where is the outrage?

44 posted on 04/08/2012 8:41:23 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Typical of physically superior racist thugs to sucker punch their victims. Always has been and always will be.

Cosby is a closet racist just like propaganda distortionist Opera Winfrey.

45 posted on 04/08/2012 8:43:11 PM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: Logical me

As I said, you’d be surprised how effective just letting people know you’re watching them and the police are on their way can be. Most lowlifes, if they aren’t serious criminals, will often take off, because they don’t usually want to be in the vicinity when the police arrived.

That usually takes care of the majority of them and that’s based on my personal experience. Trayvon, by all accounts, was not a hardcore gang banger. If George has done that one thing, we probably would have has a vert différent outcome.

If Trayvon has then charged George, Zimmerman would have been perfectly justifier in putting three bullets, centre-mass.

46 posted on 04/08/2012 8:44:13 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: shibumi

Or Sen. John F. Kerry, a Navy veteran, who was sent into Cambodia by President-elect Nixon in December 1968.

47 posted on 04/08/2012 8:45:18 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe we should just lock up all young male Negroes. /s Sadly, that might obviate much of the need for neighborhood watch programs. Bill, you had the right problem in your sights the first time. What happened to you? Why did you cave?

48 posted on 04/08/2012 8:51:29 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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We did NW for 20 years and never carried any kind of weapon.

I am old but I remember the mischief I did when I was fifteen in my neighborhood that would have got me shot if there had been gun carrying neighborhood watch guys around. It is not necessary for neighborhood watchmen to be armed and they are not all mature enough for that responsibility.

49 posted on 04/08/2012 8:54:12 PM PDT by tommix2 (,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I say this with some care...

but Mr. Cosby, where would your son be today if he’d HAD a gun?

The overwhelming majority of the times that a private citizen is armed, it IS the bad guy that is killed. It will probably ultimately be true in the Trayvon case as well.

When your son stopped to change a flat tire, he was unarmed. The bad guy’s won. How did having him unarmed help anything?

50 posted on 04/08/2012 8:57:58 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

51 posted on 04/08/2012 9:01:09 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Disarm all robbers and other criminals.
When done, nobody else will need it either.
Until then...

52 posted on 04/08/2012 9:01:09 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK, as long as you get rid of your armed bodyguards, Bill.

53 posted on 04/08/2012 9:07:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: All
If his son was armed he would still be alive, rather than being killed by a carjacker up on Mullholland Drive.
54 posted on 04/08/2012 9:14:16 PM PDT by troy McClure
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Does he have armed bodyguards?

55 posted on 04/08/2012 9:16:30 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How long will it take for people to not only recognize, but admit, that cops don't protect property, people's homes or people. Sometimes (very few at that) they will spot a potential perp during their duty day. I'm not putting them down, but am just admitting there will never be enough policemen employed to monitor all the potential criminal situations that occur every day. If it were possible the only real circumstance where it could happen would be a pure police state where everyone is constantly looking over their shoulder to see when (not if) they will be arrested. Let's face it, everyone doesn't want to spend the rest of their days in a Dunkin Donuts or a squad car. The normal situation is a crime is committed and the police are called to investigate it (the perp is long gone with the goods and there may or may not be dead or injured bodies lying around). Less frequently, someone calls 911 in the midst of an attack, burglary, home invasion,etc. and the police respond. Even then the response distance (i.e. time) allows the perp to do his damage and skedaddle before an officer can get there. In this reality how are people able to protect themselves, their families and their property if the perp has the advantage of either being armed or physically capable of inflicting severe mental and physical damage to the victim(s)? The perp already knows he is intending to commit a crime so posting a sign on the front door telling him to stay out is probably not going to work. Hey, I've got a better idea. Let's allow every citizen to protect himself or herself with something more formidable like, say, a gun. The best defense is a really good offense. Taking away the weapon from the neighborhood watch folks only puts them at great risk and negates any advantage to having them.
56 posted on 04/08/2012 9:19:17 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: Secret Agent Man

I was speaking only of my own personal experience doing NW for 20+ years, not the merits of the Zimmerman/Martin action or conditions in that neighborhood. It seems for a NW person to be armed as they are patrolling, they would have to be deputized. Being armed as a private citizen representing only yourself is another story. But being armed and tracking suspicious persons, to my knowledge, is now what Neighborhood Watch is about. It certainly isn’t in VA (from whence Zimmerman hails).

I have no idea how they do it in FL, but if you recall the transcript with the dispatcher, Zimmerman was told ‘you don’t have to be doing that’ in tracking the kid. If every NW patrol was armed, I would imagine they’d have to be trained, deputized, the whole ball of wax. Would they be given power to arrest? It would be a dramatic restructuring of Neighborhood Watch, that’s for sure.

57 posted on 04/08/2012 9:34:48 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: tommix2
Bill Cosby is right.

If Bill Cosby had his way, Trayvon would have beaten Zimmerman to death.

58 posted on 04/08/2012 9:36:59 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: immadashell

There was rampant crime even in Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia.

59 posted on 04/08/2012 9:38:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Stupid on steroids. I'll bet Zimmerman is quite finished being a neighborhood watch volunteer. He can sit comfortably at home and let his neighbors be burglarized. He's perfectly within his rights to have his concealed carry weapon to protect his home and himself when outside his home. Let the others fend for themselves.
60 posted on 04/08/2012 9:43:21 PM PDT by Myrddin
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