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New Technologies Put Kansas on Cusp of Oil Boom
Associated Press via Chem.info ^ | April 9, 2012 | ROXANA HEGEMAN

Posted on 04/09/2012 12:37:12 PM PDT by Rio

The new-fangled wells are essentially vertical wells with a horizontal bend at the oil-rich lime formation. Fracking, a technique used in Kansas since 1947, pushes water and sand down the hole to open up natural fractures in the rock and increase permeability. That combination of old and new technologies allows producers to extract as much as five to 10 times more oil and gas from a horizontal well than a conventional vertical well. {snip} Drilling has only just begun. Barber and Harper counties are "ground zero" of an oil boom anticipated to spread north across a wide swath of the central Kansas prairie.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: energy; kansas; oil
Drill, Baby. Drill!
1 posted on 04/09/2012 12:37:17 PM PDT by Rio
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To: Rio

The greencommies must look at this as dark, evil and bad news.


2 posted on 04/09/2012 12:39:55 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

Exactly! It won’t be long until they claim the water is being poisoned and that fracking causes earthquakes. Green whackos are anti-progress and anti-capitalism. It has nothing to do with the environment. That is just cover.


3 posted on 04/09/2012 12:42:12 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: samtheman

it’s certainly a black day for them.


4 posted on 04/09/2012 12:42:41 PM PDT by brivette
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To: Pining_4_TX

Not to mention the inevitably higher occurrence of tornadoes coincident with the decrease in rainbow sightings.

Poor Dorothy will hardly be able to recognize the place when she gets back, thanks to all these heartless capitalists.

Gaia is NOT pleased!!


5 posted on 04/09/2012 12:45:15 PM PDT by MarineDad (Wherever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits)
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To: Rio
Above Ground Land
______________________________________________
         |
         | (vertical
         |  hole)
         |
        _____________________________ (horizontal bend)

Do you have to own all the land above the horizontal bend to extract oil/gas from it?

6 posted on 04/09/2012 12:47:16 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Rio

DBD, indeed!! This play is sneaking closer to where I have some land with leasing availability. Just waiting for the letter, phone call, smoke signals...whatever.


7 posted on 04/09/2012 12:48:21 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Should see the expressions on the morons’ faces when I tell them fracking has been around for 70 years.


8 posted on 04/09/2012 12:53:13 PM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: Crazieman
Should see the expressions on the morons’ faces when I tell them fracking has been around for 70 years.
I'm sure they have a pre-programmed come-back. Or they can get back to you with one.
9 posted on 04/09/2012 12:57:26 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Rio

George Mitchell, who is 91 if my research is correct and is the father of Fracking (again if my research is correct) should be a household name and get some sort of Presidential Award. For his dogged determination in getting the techology to work maybe more transformative in a positive sense for our Nation than these toys Steve Jobs gave us that are made in China and get everyone in a zone when they should be with other humans.


10 posted on 04/09/2012 12:58:05 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: samtheman
Do you have to own all the land above the horizontal bend to extract oil/gas from it?

Basically, yes. The lease on my property includes any drilling/extraction that occurs under my property regardless of whether an actual well is placed on my property.

11 posted on 04/09/2012 1:03:04 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: MarineDad

“Gaia is NOT pleased!!”

Apparently, she never is.


12 posted on 04/09/2012 1:04:15 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pining_4_TX

You noticed that - good for you!

Gaia can never be pleased, lest charlatans, hucksters, and shams like AlGore would suffer a marked loss of income.

It’s just plain “good business” to keep the Earth Goddess ticked off all the time...


13 posted on 04/09/2012 1:06:41 PM PDT by MarineDad (Wherever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits)
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To: samtheman

No.


14 posted on 04/09/2012 1:07:08 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (I don't know what the future holds, but I know who holds my future.,)
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To: Rio

Great news for the Kansas economy. I currently live (not in oil though) in West Texas, which is utterly booming right now due to oil. The economy is just fantastic. I hope it expands north into the area near Wichita. They need some economic help with the aircraft layoffs the past couple years. I greatly miss Kansas (think it wouldn’t be so bad if I were further east away from the desert, but still). I hope the economy really picks up there.


15 posted on 04/09/2012 1:07:12 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Rio
The greencommies must look at this as dark, evil and bad news.

They still have a strangle hold on refineries unfortunately. Oil shale had a process where the well was heated also to get the oil to flow better. Someone needs to design an in well refinery to partially refine oil and increase refinery output.

16 posted on 04/09/2012 1:07:42 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Crazieman

Facts don’t usually affect these people. They are true believers.


17 posted on 04/09/2012 1:08:16 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: BooBoo1000

So someone else can drill under my land?

Isn’t that what Hussein said the Kuwaitis were doing to Iraq?


18 posted on 04/09/2012 1:09:13 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Your post in not correct/ It is possible to own the mineral rights under a piece of property without owning the surface rights. Mineral rights and surface rights are two separate items.
19 posted on 04/09/2012 1:10:46 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (I don't know what the future holds, but I know who holds my future.,)
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To: samtheman
Do you have to own all the land above the horizontal bend to extract oil/gas from it?

No, but you do have to secure royalty agreements from all of the mineral rights owners.

20 posted on 04/09/2012 1:11:17 PM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: thackney

Ping.


21 posted on 04/09/2012 1:12:39 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: BooBoo1000

This is correct, you can own the surface rights to a piece of property without owning the mineral rights which are under the property.


22 posted on 04/09/2012 1:14:14 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (I don't know what the future holds, but I know who holds my future.,)
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To: BooBoo1000

This is correct, you can own the surface rights to a piece of property without owning the mineral rights which are under the property.


23 posted on 04/09/2012 1:14:28 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (I don't know what the future holds, but I know who holds my future.,)
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To: BooBoo1000

Remember, when the Land Man comes around and wants to buy your mineral rights. He will offer you some amount of cash, but the real money in the Oil Production Business is in the ground. Just lease them the rights.Get a large up front bonus and a percentage of the production, then start looking for a ocean front house with a big pool and lots of room for guests and fancy drinks with an umbrella in them.


24 posted on 04/09/2012 1:19:52 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (I don't know what the future holds, but I know who holds my future.,)
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To: samtheman
Do you have to own all the land above the horizontal bend to extract oil/gas from it?

Area around the entire horizontal section must be leased. These are very well tracked and permitted. You don't have a chance to take you liberal neighbors minerals.

25 posted on 04/09/2012 1:25:15 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: taildragger
eorge Mitchell, who is 91 if my research is correct and is the father of Fracking

Hardly the father of hydraulic fracturing. It was done before he was a real player. Mitchell made a difference around Fort Worth in Bartlett Shale with hydraulic fracturing and an unwillingness to give up on it. Then he sold out to Devon and they combined the shale formation with hydraulic fracturing AND horizontal drilling. The latter made the real difference.

26 posted on 04/09/2012 1:30:10 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: samtheman

You have received excellent answers from other posters on surface ownership and mineral ownership. One other matter as it relates to the horizontal portion: the hydraulic fracturing is done over several “zones” of the horizontal portion in order to open the formation to maximum production. Since the horizontal portion is where there is the likelihood of multiple owner involvement, that is why rights and leasing agreements may cover several different mineral owners even when only one well bore is drilled.


27 posted on 04/09/2012 1:31:46 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: samtheman
So someone else can drill under my land?

If you lease them your mineral rights.

28 posted on 04/09/2012 1:33:39 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: samtheman
So someone else can drill under my land?

If you lease/sell them your mineral rights.

29 posted on 04/09/2012 1:34:04 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: samtheman

You’re getting a lot of different answers to different aspects of your question.

Do you own the surface rights AND the mineral rights to your land?

If you only own the surface rights, and someone else owns the mineral rights, they can indeed drill under your land and often right ON your land...owning the mineral rights can also mean owning the right to access those minerals.

If you own the land and the mineral rights under the land, then no one can take your oil, etc., without you signing a lease.

If you have mineral rights and are offered a lease, go slow, check around, see what things are worth. In my area people signed leases for $15/acre before the boom came on, and their neighbors who waited got $500/acre or more.

After you sign a lease, if you do, then the company that leased the rights usually has a specific period—three years is typical—within which to ‘prove up the lease, in other words to go in an drill or mine, whatever.

If they don’t, the minerals revert to you. If they do drill, then the lease is good (I THINK BUT AM NOT SURE) for the life of the well. There can be wrinkles in this also...they might drill, and tell you there is no oil down there, but the lease still will remain valid for them, but again I’m not sure for how long. (I know of wells that were drilled and capped, and then a couple years later the company was suddenly (!) able to get them flowing.

You want to be careful about signing a royalty agreement too. They vary in terms and payouts and so on. Try to find out what the highest percentage of the well output you can get for yourself. Some states have an upper limit for the mineral owner (you) but even then oil companies might try to get you to sign for something lower.

Go slow, talk to your neighbors and to local officials, maybe even a lawyer. Go slow, be wary.


30 posted on 04/09/2012 1:51:51 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Each horizonal seam of coal can be owned separately. Makes things a bit confusing frfom time to time.


31 posted on 04/09/2012 2:04:27 PM PDT by Pecos (O.K., joke's over. Time to bring back the Constitution.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Each horizonal seam of coal can be owned separately. Makes things a bit confusing from time to time.


32 posted on 04/09/2012 2:04:37 PM PDT by Pecos (O.K., joke's over. Time to bring back the Constitution.)
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To: Fightin Whitey

Thanks for your answer. Very thoughtful.


33 posted on 04/10/2012 9:35:08 AM PDT by samtheman
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