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Algae Biofuel Thrives in the Heart of Oil Country
Triple Pundit ^ | April 6, 2012 | Tina Casey

Posted on 04/09/2012 12:42:03 PM PDT by An American!

As the U.S. transitions out of a petroleum economy, oil-rich Texas is emerging as something of a surprise leader in biofuel research. If the country’s quintessential oil state sees promise in biofuels, that stands as a powerful indicator that the national market is ready, too, even in the case of algae biofuel, which has been greeted with derision in some circles.

One main driver of Texas’s vanguard position in the biofuel field has been Texas A&M University, the premier public education and research institution. The school’s AgriLife department has firmly established itself in the forefront of algae biofuel development despite the nay saying of at least one of the state’s own representatives in Congress, who took jabs at the Navy’s algae biofuel program at a hearing in Congress just last month.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: algae; biofuel; green; tx
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The crown jewel of Texas A&M’s program is a “world class” algae biofuel test center in Pecos, Texas. The center was established with the goal of developing commercially viable algae biofuel production processes that could be conducted on a large scale throughout the arid Southwestern U.S.

Interesting...I think algae may have a strong future

1 posted on 04/09/2012 12:42:07 PM PDT by An American!
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To: An American!
As the U.S. transitions out of a petroleum economy


2 posted on 04/09/2012 12:46:20 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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It sickens me that these biofuel, windmill and algae fatcats are lining their pockets when they know darn well the energy of the future is unicorn dander. END BIG ALGAE!


3 posted on 04/09/2012 12:47:31 PM PDT by Hayride
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To: An American!
I watched this a few years ago with Kertz had a deal running back in 2008 with vertical growing algae. Seemed to make sense to me but it has gone under. Not sure of all the reasons Valcent and its vertigrow didn't make it.
It looked like this:
Basically running water through vertical hanging segemented tubes to capture maximum sunlight. As I recall it worked, but had problems with algae sticking to plastic and slowly blocking light transmission. Same problem in ponds, only effectively grows in top few inches or so of water.
4 posted on 04/09/2012 12:47:50 PM PDT by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: An American!
I throw my hands in the air with disgust and snort with derision.
5 posted on 04/09/2012 12:50:28 PM PDT by BO Stinkss
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I am sure that farmers in Pecos love the idea of water being diverted to a pondscum research facility.


6 posted on 04/09/2012 12:52:31 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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Where exactly would they put the million of acres of ponds needed to grow enough algae to make a dent.
It uses a lot of water, yes?
They need to get rid of dead algae and other waste, yes?
Better not tell the EPA.

7 posted on 04/09/2012 12:52:51 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: An American!

“Interesting...I think algae may have a strong future”

I take the opposite view. Interesting technology, yes. But moving from the laboratory to practical economical production is another matter. Think of the required infrastructure. Culturing algae in transparent tanks could be more expensive than solar farms. Culturing algae in open ponds in the Southwest would be impossible due to scare water and high evaporation rates. Anything that harvests solar energy, be it silicon or algae, would require too much real estate and is therefore too diffuse to be economically feasible.


8 posted on 04/09/2012 12:53:17 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: steelyourfaith; Bender2

Ping.


9 posted on 04/09/2012 12:53:37 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: An American!

We are awash in hydrocarbons that can be converted into to usable liquid fuels. We use crude oil because it presently is the most cost-effective feedstock of molecules for this purpose. If someone develops an algae that can compete with no more subsidies, then more power to them. Bring it on!


10 posted on 04/09/2012 12:55:20 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: An American!

Both the title and article are kind of misleading to me. Its a university doing the study. Perhaps with a big, fat, juicy grant from the feds or some other “green group”. And what do you know, the stuff may work...ha ha ha

Of course they’re going to say it works, if they don’t then they don’t get that funding anymore.

If a REAL energy company were doing the research, with real scientists and not a bunch of TA’s and grad students, then it might be something to pay attention to somewhere down the road. Until then, OIL and GAS are KING.


11 posted on 04/09/2012 12:57:57 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: An American!
"As the U.S. transitions out of a petroleum economy..."

One thing everyone forgets in the illusionary race to replace petroleum with "green" alternatives is that we use oil for far more than just fueling our vehicles. Even if we stopped using gasoline, diesel fuel, jet fuel, heating oil, etc. tomorrow, we would still need vast amounts of petroleum to manufacture plastics, pharmaceuticals, fertilizers, etc., etc., etc. The list of non-fuel uses for petroleum are endless, and there are precisely zero green alternatives for those uses.

12 posted on 04/09/2012 12:58:16 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: An American!

150 years ago horsepower was actually generated by horses. Cheap energy is fine; if there are othe ways to get it, that is a good thing. Let the free market develop it though, don’t make it a government trough. Just think - if oil was supplanted even in part, just how significant would the Middleastern OPEC nations be? It is hard to run a war machine off of the sale of sugared dates.


13 posted on 04/09/2012 1:00:02 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: An American!
The title is quite misleading. Is there any real production of algae biofuel? I think not. Research thrives by federal grants but the open market has not taken off so this is just another DOE doodle.
14 posted on 04/09/2012 1:03:09 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: An American!

You prepared to invest your own money in the technology?


15 posted on 04/09/2012 1:06:53 PM PDT by DManA
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To: TexasRepublic

The interesting thing about the tube growing algae was:
- the capture and reuse of water (no evap...just condensation)
- vertical growth reduced acreage requirements
With that being said, the devil is in the details. It is not cheap to extract oil and you need phosphorus / phosphates to grow it. With the looming phosphate shortage...well maybe bio fuels is not a very good option unless we can recycle the phosphate...essentially feed the algae back to itself after extracting the oil?


16 posted on 04/09/2012 1:18:49 PM PDT by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: An American!

Growing algae under controlled conditions is very hard. I did some research while in skool, which involved trying to grow Microcystis to yield some toxic metabolic by-products that can kill fish. Massive fail because we didn’t include some micronutrients in the medium.

I can’t imagine the enormous scale required to make sufficient gasoline, er ethanol? from algae. Just what kind of yield of fuel per ton of algae are they expecting? How much energy and labor will it take?


17 posted on 04/09/2012 1:27:26 PM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO! Treason is the Reason! Impeach the Kenyan)
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To: DManA

If I had any money then I would not mind investing in some of the more promising bio fuel areas. But I would also invest in other equally intriguing areas like solar collectors, optimal heat energy storage, steam, hydrogen etc etc.
For example UAE is investing in tried and true solar trough technology - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shams_solar_power_station
And here are some enterprising souls in Utah using wastewater ponds full of phosphates etc http://www.treehugger.com/corporate-responsibility/logan-utah-wastewater-lagoons-to-be-transformed-into-algae-biofuel-and-fertilizer-producing-facility.html

Solar still has probably most potential http://knol.google.com/k/-/-/1g0rrsoesmjko/dk53jz/sunniest-places-in-the-world2.jpg
Great progress was being made until we went to oil. For example Frank Shuman built the first solar thermal power station in Egypt in 1913. His plant used parabolic troughs to power a 60 horsepower engine that pumped thousands of gallons of irrigation water per minute from the Nile to near by fields.


18 posted on 04/09/2012 1:37:41 PM PDT by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: An American!

In fact people have been working on the problem for 100 years and no one has found anything more economical than fossil fuels. Good thing we have decades and decades of it left to use.


19 posted on 04/09/2012 1:43:12 PM PDT by DManA
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To: An American!

No doubt such a system could demo the technology, but it sounds cost prohibitive to construct such a large facility. I wonder also about the maintenance of such equipment. I had not even considered yet the issue of nutrients such as phosphates. Harvesting the oil is taking something out of a closed system, and therefore it seems that nutrients would have to be replenished from an external source to some extent.

I think basic research should continue, but I can’t see anything practical happening for a long time.


20 posted on 04/09/2012 1:59:44 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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