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Re: Derb (Mark Steyn defends him)
National Review ^ | April 9, 2012 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 04/09/2012 1:11:54 PM PDT by reaganaut1

Edited on 04/09/2012 6:18:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I didn’t agree with Derb on many things, from Ron Paul and talk radio to God and science. For his part, he reckoned I was a bit of a wimp on what he called “the Great Unmentionables.” He thought that neuroscientists and geneticists’ understanding of race trumped my touching belief in “culture.” I’m not so sure: Why is Haiti Haiti and Barbados Barbados? Why is India India and Pakistan Pakistan? Skin color and biological determinism don’t get you very far on that.


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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: derbyshire; johnderbyshire; marksteyn; nro; steyn
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I agree with Steyn.
1 posted on 04/09/2012 1:11:57 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

So do I. Here’s an excellent article regarding this absurdity (no affiliation to the blog)

http://www.alternativeright.com/main/blogs/hbd-human-biodiversity/the-asymmetry-of-america/#disqus_thread


2 posted on 04/09/2012 1:17:44 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: reaganaut1

What did Derbyshire say? I can’t find the essay about which NR had such a “hissy fit” Any help would be appreciated!


3 posted on 04/09/2012 1:18:25 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: reaganaut1

They didn’t fire Taki, who PUBLISHED the offending screed in his webzine!??

Talk about double standards.


4 posted on 04/09/2012 1:19:11 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: reaganaut1

Steyn is usually right on. I do agree. We don’t all share the exact same feelings on every topic, but to react like NR did b/c a few people got their panties in a twist is just that reactionary, and certainly not liberal in thought or action. (I don’t mean liberal/leftist, but liberal as in seeing more than one side and appreciating a dissenting view). Both sides are getting less liberal int hat sense. Since the Clinton admin, things have gotten exponentially more bitter, partisan, corrupt, and deceitful. This cannot go on. The fuse is way too short, as our president surely knows and is trying to trigger an assault, a reactionary action from our side so he has reason to declare martial law. It is being ramped up daily.


5 posted on 04/09/2012 1:21:26 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Agreed, I’d like to read the article and form my own opinion.


6 posted on 04/09/2012 1:21:44 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Google “Derbyshire” and “The Talk” and search through the various pieces about the piece in question, then hit the “single page version” button and read.
7 posted on 04/09/2012 1:22:37 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/print#axzz1rZo5OLJZ


8 posted on 04/09/2012 1:23:05 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: reaganaut1

Styne good again.


9 posted on 04/09/2012 1:24:18 PM PDT by next media
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To: traderrob6

Go to takimag.com to find the article.

On the NR masthead, Derb is listed as a Contributing Editor whilst the poor little Greek boy Taki is listed as a contributor.


10 posted on 04/09/2012 1:25:04 PM PDT by bagman
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To: reaganaut1

You don’t understand!

Anyone who says anything effective on the conservative side MUST be eliminated!

I no longer call myself “pro-life” because even pro-lifers have proven themselves to be anything but pro-life.


11 posted on 04/09/2012 1:27:19 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: reaganaut1
This is par for the course for National Review.

It's this sort of appeasing-the-unappeasable that led them to cut ties with Ann Coulter after she referred to the widows of certain 9/11 victims as "harpies" after they appeared on the cover of some magazine and voiced truther-style opinions in the accompanying article.

Which in turn led to Ann referring to National Review as a bunch of girlie-men.

If it wasn't for Rob Long, Mark Steyn and a couple of others, I would probably cancel my subscription to NR.

12 posted on 04/09/2012 1:28:20 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: reaganaut1

I actually don’t care for Derbyshire, and didn’t care for the article in question. I do like Steyn, and the only reason I ever click to National Review is to read Steyn when he’s there.

Steyn is right about one thing. If National Review eliminates everyone who has anything interesting to say, like Derb, like Coulter, at some point there is no particular reason to read them at all. I actually stopped reading them years ago after they pulled the plug on Coulter. I obviously don’t agree with everything she has to say, but she is, like Steyn, always worth the price of admission. Almost no one else at NR these days aside from Steyn catches my attention at all.


13 posted on 04/09/2012 1:37:34 PM PDT by marron
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To: utahagen

Thank you. I have read the article. It is presented lightly and contains a number of truths that need to be stated.


14 posted on 04/09/2012 1:37:56 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: mrsmel

Thank you. I have read the article. It is presented lightly and contains a number of truths that need to be stated.


15 posted on 04/09/2012 1:38:39 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Here it is

http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire#axzz1rY5I6FfY


16 posted on 04/09/2012 1:42:20 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: traderrob6

And here you go

http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire#axzz1rY5I6FfY


17 posted on 04/09/2012 1:44:37 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: chesley

THank you for the time and trouble involved in providing a link.


18 posted on 04/09/2012 1:49:27 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Texas Eagle

“If it wasn’t for Rob Long, Mark Steyn and a couple of others...”

Rob doesn’t write for NR. He writes for Ricochet.


19 posted on 04/09/2012 1:56:15 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
When sharp contrasts are called for, NR is a mosh pit of pastels.

At one time they were conservative but today they are left of George Will, not quite socialist, but not too far removed.

Rarely ever read their articles.

20 posted on 04/09/2012 1:58:28 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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