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Sources: George Zimmerman Could Be Arrested Soon; Grand Jury Won't Get Trayvon Martin Case
WFTV.ccom ^ | April 9, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 04/09/2012 1:46:42 PM PDT by lbryce

Two sources told WFTV on Monday that gunman George Zimmerman could be arrested this week, and that a Grand Jury will not meet on Tuesday.

Zimmerman has been in hiding because of threats, after he shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. He claims he shot Martin in self-defense.

Jacksonville State Attorney Angela Corey has the sole authority to determine whether Zimmerman will be charged for killing Martin.

Governor Rick Scott put Corey in charge of the case late last month amid concerns that State Attorney Norm Wolflinger wouldn't do a thorough and fair investigation.

"You've got to make sure justice prevails. I'm comfortable that the State Attorney Angela Corey will make that happen," Scott said.

In Florida, first-degree murder cases must be heard by a Grand Jury, which means Corey can only charge Zimmerman with third-degree murder, second-degree or manslaughter.

However, because Zimmerman fired his gun and Martin died, which means Zimmerman could still face life in prison without parole, WFTV found out.

Natalie Jackson is one of the attorneys representing Martin's family and told WFTV she wasn't surprised by Corey's decision.

"We believe justice dictates that he will be charged," said Jackson. "If justice and the procedures were followed, then yes, all of this could've been avoided."

(Excerpt) Read more at wftv.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: angelacorey; dueprocess; georgezimmerman; normwolflinger; racebaiters; racialarsonists; rickscott; travon; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: TexasCajun

There is not a all White jury with to balls to acquit Zimmerman in the political climate of today.


101 posted on 04/09/2012 4:35:40 PM PDT by sport
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To: lbryce

They can arrest .... but can they indict without a grand jury?


102 posted on 04/09/2012 4:38:36 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Cboldt

If the alternative to the ordeal of trial is to simply live under a cloud of suspicion, I’d say you’re right.

But in this case, the alternative is to either get lynched or be forced to leave the country. The ordeal of trial is preferable, both to Mr. Zimmmerman and to society.


103 posted on 04/09/2012 4:44:26 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
-- But in this case, the alternative is to either get lynched or be forced to leave the country. The ordeal of trial is preferable, both to Mr. Zimmmerman and to society. --

So, the rule of law is to capitulate to the rule of the mob. Good for society.

I disagree.

104 posted on 04/09/2012 4:46:51 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Eleutheria5
If the state has witnesses that prove innocence, thre is nothing preventing the state from putting on that case without sujecting the innocent person to a trial.
105 posted on 04/09/2012 4:49:34 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: backwoods-engineer

This is what I am thinking too sadly.


106 posted on 04/09/2012 4:52:50 PM PDT by HangingTuff
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To: Eleutheria5
-- If the alternative to the ordeal of trial is to simply live under a cloud of suspicion, I'd say you're right. --

The mob will not accept a verdict of innocent. There is no way to "win" by subverting the legal process to put on a show that ends in innocence.

So, either the mob is superior, or the state (and its rule of law) is. Might as well get the difference of conclusion out in the open sooner. If the evidence cannot support a finding of unjustified use of deadly force, then the charge should not be brought.

107 posted on 04/09/2012 4:53:29 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Eleutheria5; Cboldt

See this case for what happens when mob rule is submitted to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottsboro_Boys

The Scottsboro Boys were nine black teenage boys accused of rape in Alabama in 1931. The landmark set of legal cases from this incident dealt with racism and the right to a fair trial. The case includes a frameup, all-white jury, rushed trials, an attempted lynching, angry mob, and miscarriage of justice.


108 posted on 04/09/2012 4:55:00 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: lbryce

Kind of strange how a strong vocal minority within the black community is acting simular to the white racist during Jiim Crow era (likely a democrat BTW).
Forget about the facts, put on a show trail, and then lynch this cracker!


109 posted on 04/09/2012 5:00:22 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: Cboldt

No, the rule is to rebut the mob, not capitulate to it. A trial is the opposite of what they want.

The last time this occurred, during the Crown Heights pogrom, a grand jury refused to indict the driver in the fatal accident. As a result, the evidence remained sealed, and the race-baiters kept on making the same heinous accusations.

Same thing happened in the Tawana Brawley case. Grand jury refused to indict, and the testimony did not become known until the slander trial years later.

A public trial would bring all the testimony out in the open, and the usual suspects would be sitting in the front rows, behaving like boors and thugs both in and outside the courtroom, for all to see. Thus, Fat Al and Jesse Johnson will be quickly discredited, and Spike Lee will think twice the next time he offers a bounty on someone’s head, and Mr. Zimmerman can get on with his life, maybe suing NBC into the bargain.


110 posted on 04/09/2012 5:00:56 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: sport

I would acquit.....and I carry 24/7.


111 posted on 04/09/2012 5:06:27 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Cboldt

The “mob” might or might not. But if the evidence is publicly given in a court of law and contradicts the wild allegations and doctored recordings, the mob’s hangers on will melt. That’s why there are courts of law in the first place, so that society can decide an issue based on facts, reason and evidence, rather than mobs and feuding clans based on blood loyalty, hysteria and rabble rousing.


112 posted on 04/09/2012 5:07:42 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
-- No, the rule is to rebut the mob, not capitulate to it. A trial is the opposite of what they want. --

The mob is clamoring for a trial.

But it is contrary to the rule of law to put known innocent / justified people on trial.

-- A public trial would bring all the testimony out in the open, and the usual suspects would be sitting in the front rows, behaving like boors and thugs both in and outside the courtroom, for all to see. --

The testimony can come out already, once the investigation goes inactive. The press isn't going to show it, because it cuts against the narrative.

Anyway, we can disagree respectfully. I've had my say.

113 posted on 04/09/2012 5:10:23 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: abb

This is not 1931, and the jury pool in central Florida is not all black. The prosecutor in this case is a white Southern Republican. I lived in central Florida (Casselberry in Seminole Co.) for a few years. It’s a conservative area with a lot of juvenile crime, and tough law enforcement. The only similarity with the Scottsboro case is an angry mob, neither the first nor the last such aggregation of boobs. A trial will cause the professional rabble rousers to form circle jerks of conspiracy mongers, who will insist that the witnesses were bribed until they are old and gray.


114 posted on 04/09/2012 5:18:57 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: rwilson99
The only open question here is did Zimmerman disregard a lawful order from the 911 operator or disturb the peace by continuing to follow Trayvon after he was instructed not to.

There is still an open question as to who started the physical altercation (or rather, to put it in Florida statutory terms, whether Zimmerman "provoked" the use of force against himself), as well as several questions that follow that one. There's evidence on both sides, but it's far from resolved.

115 posted on 04/09/2012 5:20:49 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
FEAR OF BLACKS!

Nope. Fear of being called racist.

116 posted on 04/09/2012 5:22:58 PM PDT by America_Right (Why can't anyone tell me why Ron Paul is crazy?)
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To: Cboldt

The mob is always clamoring for something, and mortified if they get what they clamored for. So they invent some new grievance to clamor about. As soon as the trial is underway, they’ll be claiming Ms. Corey is a racist who’s trying to paper over the death of a brutha with perjured testimony. The very last thing that a mob ever wants, especially one incited by Fat Al and Co., is what they claim they want in the clamor du jour. Next they’ll demand that the prosecution be taken over by the federal government, based on the bogus tape that NBC aired, bogus claims that Corey’s a racist, etc. Once the evidence is a matter of public record, however, a newly vindicated Zimmerman can sue Fat Al, Spike Lee and NBC, and I hope he gets awarded punitive damages in eight figure amounts against each.


117 posted on 04/09/2012 5:27:24 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: cumbo78
What about Mr. Zimmerman’s 5th Amendment right to a Grand Jury? “No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury”

That only applies to Federal prosecutions, not state cases. That part of the Fifth Amendment has not been "incorporated" against the states through the Fourteenth Amendment.

118 posted on 04/09/2012 5:27:24 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Cboldt

Anyway, he’s not “known” to be innocent. The witnesses have not been heard except in the media, thanks to a leak emanating from the prosecutor’s office. They could be lying. They could have misinterpreted what they saw. The prosecutor who leaked their alleged statements could be lying. Until there’s been a trial with an opportunity to cross-examine them, they are an unknown quantity that we prefer to believe and others prefer to disbelieve.


119 posted on 04/09/2012 5:33:53 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: MPJackal
I cannot imagine a twelve year old being tried as an adult. That defies common sense.
120 posted on 04/09/2012 5:35:35 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I just posted it exactly the way it appeared on the TV station web site.


121 posted on 04/09/2012 5:36:34 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama The Worst President Ever Must Be Carterized)
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To: backwoods-engineer
If you want to see a civil race war, dismiss the case as self defense, then stand back.

The establishment needs Zim to be charged so the race war will NOT start- -or at least will be delayed until after the trial.

122 posted on 04/09/2012 5:43:56 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: lbryce
Two sources

Let me guess, one's name is Anonymous and the other is his brother named Undisclosed.......

123 posted on 04/09/2012 5:44:12 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: rwilson99
Those questions were decisively answered by the police chief about a week or ten days ago. The answer is, no.
124 posted on 04/09/2012 5:46:41 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: rwilson99
The only open question here is did Zimmerman disregard a lawful order from the 911 operator or disturb the peace by continuing to follow Trayvon after he was instructed not to.

No such "order" was given.

125 posted on 04/09/2012 5:47:31 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: nolongerademocrat; All

I’m not going to be laughing...


126 posted on 04/09/2012 5:48:04 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Occupy the Gun Range!!!)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

Won’t argue with that. That’s all they’ve got going for themselves. Take that away from the MSM and they’ve got nothing.


127 posted on 04/09/2012 5:58:30 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama The Worst President Ever Must Be Carterized)
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To: All

I absolutely believe it will be reviewed by a Grand Jury.
I’ve postulated that the reason they mention that no grand jury is set to to be presented with any evidence not because of the scarcity of any felonious evidence but simply a ruse in an effort by blacks, left-wing liberals to mislead people into believing Zimmerman has not committed any crime but with time will absolutely present the case to a grand jury against Zimmerman in the strongest way possible. They are not going to allow such a grand racial opportunity to pass through their hands. “White people are gonna pay” is definitely what they have in mind.


128 posted on 04/09/2012 6:01:45 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama The Worst President Ever Must Be Carterized)
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To: lbryce

What a load of BS.

If there was chithot evidence, then warrants would have already been sworn out.

There is no revisiting the crime scene, no missing evidence to be found, no hidden testimony by as yet unknown witnesses, the things that can be subpoenaed have been.

If Zimmerman is arrested, it will be for political expediency. All of us who are interested in defending ourselves, our families, and neighborhoods should be VERY concerned if that happens.


129 posted on 04/09/2012 6:08:39 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (A Bounty on Zimmerman, Can Be A Bounty On ANYONE. No NBPP Mob Justice!)
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To: Cboldt
"What's the state gonna do, put on a set of witnesses that saw Zimmerman getting beat up?"


130 posted on 04/09/2012 6:14:18 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: lbryce
"I just posted it exactly the way it appeared on the TV station web site."

I understand that, but it doesn't change the fact that the title is misleading. It would have helped if you had mentioned that the title did not reflect the content of the article though, but you did nothing wrong and I was not chiding you.

131 posted on 04/09/2012 6:30:04 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
If you want to see a civil race war, dismiss the case as self defense

I'd rather see a country that has a fair justice system.

If the blacks want to threaten the rights we have in this country then a race war it is.

132 posted on 04/09/2012 6:34:20 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Cboldt
The mob will not accept a verdict of innocent.

t.s.

Many years ago I asked my mother what t.s. meant. She told me it meant tough shoveling. Recently I learned it has another meaning. LOL

133 posted on 04/09/2012 6:38:24 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Eleutheria5
"The mob is always clamoring for something, ..."

You could have stopped right there. A trial -and if it ever happens, I doubt it'll go further than a prelim- will do exactly ZERO to quell the clamoring, and in all likelihood, will exacerbate it. Pulling the plug on this GJ was smart. Continuing a nice looooooooong "investigation" is also smart.

Zimmerman does not need a trial to facilitate seeking applicable damages either.

134 posted on 04/09/2012 6:44:25 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Poor Zimmerman probably voted for the president who gave nodding approval to the lynch mob about to hang him.


135 posted on 04/09/2012 7:16:32 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: cynwoody

That’s a fair argument too... I’m not sure if... ‘we don’t need you to do that’ constitutes an ‘order’?


136 posted on 04/09/2012 7:22:27 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: PA-RIVER

When you go to bed with the dogs you wake up with fleas.


137 posted on 04/09/2012 7:27:27 PM PDT by sport
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To: PA-RIVER

Your post should be made into a billboard and put on the outskirts of Sanford. LOL! “ZIMMERMAN VOTED OBAMA AND ALL HE GOT WAS LYNCHED!”


138 posted on 04/09/2012 7:33:41 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("We Need To Teach The Establishment a Lesson" - Newt Gingrich)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Never have I seen anywhere under any circumstances within Free Republic anyone being admonished for what you have expressed in your expectations of me in such dour, unreasonable fashion.

It is not at all my responsibility, duty of any poster to edit any title, article content, to determine the veracity of the title of any article, whether or not the article's content is accurately portrayed as assessed in the title, in an effort to reflect what someone like yourself may misinterpret, or who have a problem with the concept of the way sites like Free Republic operate.

As a matter of fact, in the case of article titles, posters are discouraged in the most intense way not to edit titles, precisely because of situations like the one you've just created.

The issues you've expressed that irk you should be taken up with the site moderator and not the poster, especially so when I posted the title/content precisely the way it was originally posted.

I suggest you employ a proof-reader if this presents a problem of such magnitude for you.

139 posted on 04/09/2012 7:57:48 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama The Worst President Ever Must Be Carterized)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
Norm is ‘assumed’ to be racist?

Maybe he just figured that when the case came to trial he would be in middle of his election campaign, it has the potential to lose him white votes and not gain black ones. So he was just looking out for number one.

140 posted on 04/09/2012 8:07:07 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: rwilson99
The only open question here is did Zimmerman disregard a lawful order from the 911 operator or disturb the peace by continuing to follow Trayvon after he was instructed not to.

That is your first problem.

Zimmerman was never ordered to not follow Martin.

I am sure that I am not the first to point this out to you.

141 posted on 04/09/2012 8:07:20 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: rbmillerjr
Do you think the GOP Establishment is going to not get a conviction here?

Jeez. The GOPe controls everything. Could this be Bush's fault?

142 posted on 04/09/2012 8:14:12 PM PDT by Once-Ler (There are two paths! One is America, the other is Occupy!)
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To: Nip
Excuse me, what does a 12-year old in Fort Walton Beach know about events in Stanford several weeks ago?

The 12 year old is the same age as Travon according to MSM photos.

143 posted on 04/09/2012 8:16:56 PM PDT by Once-Ler (There are two paths! One is America, the other is Occupy!)
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To: ladyjane

If you want to see a civil race war, dismiss the case as self defense
I’d rather see a country that has a fair justice system.

If the blacks want to threaten the rights we have in this country then a race war it is.

**

Damn right. I definitely do not want to live in a country ruled by the mob.


144 posted on 04/09/2012 8:19:00 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: lbryce

If Corey is a sleazy coward she will fold like a cheap suit and do the politically correct thing - - charge Zimmerman with manslaughter.
Any bets?


145 posted on 04/09/2012 8:20:22 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: lbryce

First of all, YOU were not admonished by me. Apparently, reading comprehension is not your strong suit.


146 posted on 04/09/2012 8:42:39 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: ladyjane

“I’d rather see a country that has a fair justice system.
If the blacks want to threaten the rights we have in this country then a race war it is.”
_________________________________________________________

I keep thinking of comedian Ron White when says “Diamonds, That’ll Shut Her Up!”.

Only in this case I firmly believe the race baiters, Justice Brothers, Van Jones, Obama and even RINO’s, will soon be hoping for the media to say “Reparations, that’ll shut them up!”

Reparations to blacks (redistribution of wealth) is where this is all headed in my opinion.


147 posted on 04/09/2012 9:42:05 PM PDT by ThE_RiPpEr.
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

you’ve got that backwards- if casey anthony was found innocent, then zimmerman who actually IS innocwent will be found guilty in Florida- right is wrong and wrong is right in florida- evil is good, while good gets punished-


148 posted on 04/09/2012 10:42:23 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Nervous Tick
how can he be charged?.....he was in his usual neighborhood, doing a service...he has small wounds on him....there's a witness saying he was being pummelled by the gansta....gansta was not a little boy....he was a towering teenager....a teenager who was suspended from school and who might, or might not, have a history of drugs,having stolen items, and there's the bus driver story...

there is no evidence and the story perfectly fits exactly what Z said happened...

149 posted on 04/10/2012 12:19:05 AM PDT by cherry
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To: SandyInSeattle
Z's father is a retired judge....I feel Z will get expert advice...

there is no proof of wrong doing...just because a tragedy happened, it doesn't make it a crime ...

150 posted on 04/10/2012 12:22:29 AM PDT by cherry
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