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American Thinker ^ | April 10, 2012 | Nick Chase

Posted on 04/10/2012 2:05:39 AM PDT by matt1

Is Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate a forgery? Definitely yes, for those of us who have spent a lifetime writing and producing technical documents, and who remember how they were produced in pre-computer days, and who have the technical expertise today to produce them using computers. For us, it's been an "open secret" that the document image released by the White House on April 27, 2011 is a complete fake.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama; typewriters
congrats to American Thinker. they seem to be seriously taking on this crime perpetrated on the American public on a regular basis.
1 posted on 04/10/2012 2:05:39 AM PDT by matt1
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To: matt1

sorry for the double post! but then again, this topic needs to be double-posted!


2 posted on 04/10/2012 2:08:11 AM PDT by matt1
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To: matt1

An illegal President! Yes! But what are we going to do about it?


3 posted on 04/10/2012 2:12:42 AM PDT by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: LetMarch

vote him out of office


4 posted on 04/10/2012 2:23:52 AM PDT by screaming eagle2 (no matter what you call it,a pre-owned vehicle,IS STILL A USED CAR!)
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To: screaming eagle2
"voteThrow him out of office and into jail! ! ! !"

Fixed it! ! ! !

5 posted on 04/10/2012 2:40:17 AM PDT by DeaconRed (ZERO supporters are stuck on stupid. . . Always were, always will be. . .)
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To: matt1
In the meantime......

Sen Jon Kyl (he who that feckless, flake and ditzy, Mooncalf Coulter is pushing for VP) has taken a pass and repeats the Left's mantra that Hawaii has certified that Dear Leader's BC is genuine, thus nuttin' to see here, let's concentrate on the Nov elections.

The Republican establishment is running scared and would as soon call O'Bummer the "N" word in broad daylight on the steps of the Capital building before daring to hint there might be something amiss in his background or bona fides.

Bunch of whipped, wuss, sheeples.

6 posted on 04/10/2012 2:53:09 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: screaming eagle2
OBAMA OR AMERICA, YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH!!!! PASS IT ON.

Photobucket

Our Constitutional Republic is in danger every minute this petulant cipher continues in the White House.

Countdown until Jackwagon leaves Office: 285 days as of April 10, 2012.

7 posted on 04/10/2012 3:02:18 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: matt1
...the forgery fails the "pitch test." ...(In other words, the test is simple enough that even a dumbass journalist can understand it.) This pitch test works even with the Obama T-shirt!

LOL! This is a great non-technical proof that Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate a forgery.

What may be more important is this article answers all the objections libs have about the "Birther" issue.

This article is a keeper!

Thanks for posting.

3 posted on April 10, 2012 3:59:18 AM MDT by Balata (It's 'WE THE PEOPLE' Obama, not 'WE THE SHEEPLE'!)

8 posted on 04/10/2012 3:07:28 AM PDT by Balata (It's 'WE THE PEOPLE' Obama, not 'WE THE SHEEPLE'!)
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The birth certificate issue is the official straw man. The real issue is the FACT that for a citizen to have establish the degree affixed to being a natural born citizen, he or she must be, at the time of birth, TWO American citizens as parents. Obama's father was a British citizen in the British colony today called Kenya. Obama's mother had not yet attained the legal age of 18 in which she was eligible to pass on citizenship (that point I find hard to buy, though)

It is critial to the Obama administration that everyone keeps the birth certificate issue stewing to avoid the REAL disqualifier.

9 posted on 04/10/2012 3:16:28 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: matt1
Convinced me.
But then I am a soda cracker. I believe all bad things about ZERO. . .
10 posted on 04/10/2012 3:18:22 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Charter member of the SODA CRACKER PARTY. . . .)
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To: USCG SimTech

Forged BC and SS card not a disqualifier as well? Though I agree with you that O is not a NBC, therefor not eligible, but forgery is something the average Joe can clearly wrap his head around. Sheriff Arpaio is a God send.


11 posted on 04/10/2012 3:33:14 AM PDT by sueQ
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To: matt1

The author’s website is well worth a visit.

There’s alot of info on the issue.

Check out the March 26, 2012 entry on this page:

http://contrariansview.org/Site/About_Me.html


12 posted on 04/10/2012 3:35:42 AM PDT by No One Special
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To: matt1

Thanks for posting it. It is brilliant. Just brilliant.

I have tried half-heartedly to explain to people how and why. Those how and whys make sense to me, since I have been using Photoshop since 1992, but most people’s eyes glaze over upon hearing the ‘evidence’. It is like trying to explain the Whitewater scandal to people.

In this case, though it is simple, easy to explain, and clear.

And simplicity has a truth all its own.


13 posted on 04/10/2012 3:39:32 AM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: matt1
Maybe its just me, but it seems our Congress is committing treason by willfully ignoring this issue. Time and time again the courts have refused to review this issue because of “Lack of Standing”. How is it possible that ANY citizen cannot have “Standing” on an issue of this importance? It would seem that no one in government wants to touch this issue.
14 posted on 04/10/2012 3:52:19 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: Shane

No one in the media want’s to touch it as well.

I guess there are no Woodword or Burnsteins out there anymore.


15 posted on 04/10/2012 4:04:29 AM PDT by Balata (It's 'WE THE PEOPLE' Obama, not 'WE THE SHEEPLE'!)
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To: Balata

Heather Childers at Fox was punished for merely tweeting about the subject. Was off the early AM show for about a week.


16 posted on 04/10/2012 4:11:48 AM PDT by sueQ
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To: Voter#537
He (and his campaign staff who were aware of his perfidy) should be jailed for perpetrating the most egregious fraud in American history.
17 posted on 04/10/2012 4:13:33 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: matt1

The BC “problem” explains why Obama wants radical frevor, i.e. trumped-up Trayvon protests, to spread throughout the land. A volatile situation makes it less likely that the MSM will introduce an explosive issue into the national debate.


18 posted on 04/10/2012 5:21:30 AM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can still go to hell.)
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To: matt1

“the document image released by the White House on April 27, 2011 is a complete fake.”

If you noticed that, you must be a racist, a bigot, a kook, and completely crazy
-Signed, the Mainstream Media.


19 posted on 04/10/2012 5:28:44 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: matt1

Do we still bade a cadre of Freepers who ridicule those of us who question the validity of Obama’s BC and join the MSM and mockingly refer to us as “birthers”?

Hey all you anti-birthers, come out of your cave and ridicule us.


20 posted on 04/10/2012 5:41:16 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Balata
Excellent point! I wonder why? Too much for them to lose I suppose.
21 posted on 04/10/2012 5:58:54 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: matt1
You are first likely to hear, "I don't believe you." What your friends really mean is that they are confused because you have disturbed their belief system. Most anybody who has spatial perception and knows even a little bit about typewriters will understand what you have shown them -- even liberals. They can choose -- which are they going to believe, the president, whom they worship, or their own lying eyes? You can almost see the smoke curling out their ears as their brains begin to fry.

Indeed, this is quite an exact description of what happens when a victim of a Big Lie realizes that he has been gulled.

Here, in the originator's very words:

All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true within itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.

(Quoted from the Big Lie wikipedia page.)

22 posted on 04/10/2012 6:10:03 AM PDT by snowsislander (Gingrich 2012.)
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To: matt1

The differences he describes might be caused by the fact that the image used is a photo of the paper version. He SHOULD have used the digital copy, and not the photo. If the camera used to take the photo is not centered over the original, it must be tilted slightly to center the image. In this case it was likely tilted up.

What happens then is that words on the bottom of the doc appear larger. This explains some of the author’s points concerning change of pitch and size of characters.

But it still does NOT explain the one major flaw, which is the spacing between 6085 and Kalanianaole. No matter how you move things around (even on the digital version), that spacing in NOT equal to a whole number of characters.

Try it yourself on the digital version.


23 posted on 04/10/2012 6:33:46 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: matt1

it’s about time for the “everybody lies” defense. Hope the whole story will come out some day.


24 posted on 04/10/2012 7:01:41 AM PDT by Nanny7
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To: All

‘Obama thugs history revealed in Michele Thomas Bettina Viviano interview, Obama stole 1996 Alice Palmer election and 2008 DNC primaries caucuses’

jbjd | April 9, 2012 at 9:50 am |
President Obama’s ballot eligibility problem is about to blow wide open. When it does, you will need to understand how to explain to your public officials that while they might (genuinely) believe he has released a bona fide copy of his long form birth certificate evidencing he was born in HI; and the HI DoH confirmed, it’s real; neither claim is true. On the contrary, this was all part of a well orchestrated political ad campaign, carried out in full compliance with applicable state and federal law.

RECOGNIZING when the PEOPLE INVOLVED with the PRESS ROLLOUT of PRESIDENT OBAMA’S 2011 LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AD CAMPAIGN WORE a PUBLIC v. PRIVATE HAT

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2012/04/09/obama-thugs-history-revealed-in-michele-thomas-bettina-viviano-interview-obama-stole-1996-alice-palmer-election-and-2008-dnc-primaries-caucuses/


25 posted on 04/10/2012 7:07:28 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: luvbach1
"He (and his campaign staff who were aware of his perfidy) should be jailed for perpetrating the most egregious fraud in American history."

I agree 100%.
It's time for Soda Crackers and Oreos to unite. . . . .

26 posted on 04/10/2012 7:12:15 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Charter member of the SODA CRACKER PARTY. . . .)
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To: Voter#537

“voteThrow him out of office and into jail! ! ! !”

AMEN!! That’s where Obama belongs...Jail!!

Obama is destroying our Country!!

He is a “FRAUD”!!


27 posted on 04/10/2012 8:08:19 AM PDT by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: Balata

I agree. It was well thought out.


28 posted on 04/10/2012 8:15:50 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: USCG SimTech
Obama's mother had not yet attained the legal age of 18 in which she was eligible to pass on citizenship (that point I find hard to buy, though)

The point is valid, but it has been repeated in a misleading manner. The rules governing the ability of the mother to transfer citizenship ONLY APPLY to a birth in a foreign country. They DO NOT APPLY if he was born in the United States. The 14th Amendment applies in this circumstance. (Under one interpretation of it) Even so, the 14th amendment would only make him a "citizen", not a "natural born citizen."

A law cannot make someone "natural born" who is not. Were it otherwise, the Founders would have simply declared themselves "natural born" rather than add an exception for themselves in Article II.

29 posted on 04/10/2012 8:20:10 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: sueQ
I have a "forged" birth certificate because I am an adopted child. Obama has a "forged" birth certificate because he is also an adopted child. (Legally adopted by Lolo Soetoro in 1965, and by his Grandparents in 1971.)

When a state produces a replacement birth certificate for an adopted child, they do not regard them as "forgeries" because they were produce in accordance with a normal legal process.

30 posted on 04/10/2012 8:23:01 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Do you also have a forged Selective Service registration, and are you currently using the Social Security # of someone who was born over a century ago?


31 posted on 04/10/2012 10:03:05 AM PDT by sueQ
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To: sueQ

He needed that.


32 posted on 04/10/2012 10:34:35 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: sueQ
Do you also have a forged Selective Service registration, and are you currently using the Social Security # of someone who was born over a century ago?

Let us not conflate one thing with another. I make no claims or observations regarding his selective service registration. I will point out that Obama, as head of the FEDERAL government, can completely control that issue. I will also point out that it is the STATE of Hawaii which has issued his birth document, and while he may threaten and cajole them, he cannot control them to the same extent that he can control anyone in his direct chain of command in the FEDERAL government.

He can get away with covering up a forgery of his Selective Service registration as long as he is in power, but he cannot force Hawaii to go along with his narrative unless they chose to do so willingly. The best way to get them to go along willingly is to utilize their legal system in such a way as to achieve the result he wishes.

The same above points regarding his control of the FEDERAL government apply as well to his social security number. That rumor that he is using a Social Security # of someone who was born over a century ago is not well documented, and at this stage is still not clearly established. *I* myself have tried to verify this and at one time that number was producing multiple hits in various data bases.

It is my opinion that investigator Susan Daniels has the most accurate and up to date analysis of the social security number aspect of this issue.

33 posted on 04/10/2012 11:02:19 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: JohnnyP
He needed that.

And for what reason did you feel I "needed that"?

34 posted on 04/10/2012 11:04:26 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Because you keep peddling your ridiculous theory of a legal forgery.


35 posted on 04/10/2012 1:08:29 PM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: Right Wing Assault; matt1

RWA:”What happens then is that words on the bottom of the doc appear larger. This explains some of the author’s points concerning change of pitch and size of characters.

But it still does NOT explain the one major flaw, which is the spacing between 6085 and Kalanianaole. No matter how you move things around (even on the digital version), that spacing in NOT equal to a whole number of characters.”


I agree with you here Right Wing. I did the same cut and paste with the PDF and all the characters align just as a typwritten document would expect. So I think this argument by the American Thinker author is bogus. But when I did the test on the 6085 spacing to Kalanianole, I did not get any discrepancies as you suggested. So I could not find any type spacing issues using the digital version.

I tend to think the author has made a mistake in his assessment. A suspect photograph of a document brings into account many potential imperfections and is not a good source document.


36 posted on 04/11/2012 5:10:44 AM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: JohnnyP
Because you keep peddling your ridiculous theory of a legal forgery.

If you think the theory is ridiculous, you must have a reason for believing so. I would certainly like to hear of some fact or logic that disproves the theory. Why don't you tell me why it is you believe the theory is wrong?

37 posted on 04/11/2012 8:28:08 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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