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Christie: Nation turning into 'people sitting on a couch waiting for their next government check'
NJ.com ^ | April 10, 2012 | Megan DeMarco

Posted on 04/10/2012 10:43:23 AM PDT by magellan

Gov. Chris Christie said the country is becoming a "paternalistic entitlement society" this morning in a speech at a conservative conference headed by former President George W. Bush.

Addressing Bush and other national Republicans, Christie said he hasn't seen a less optimistic period in the country in his lifetime.

"Government's telling them stop dreaming, stop striving, we'll take care of you," he said at a theater at the New York Historical Society. "We're turning into a paternalistic entitlement society. That will not just bankrupt us financially, it will bankrupt us morally."

"We'll have a bunch of people sitting on a couch waiting for their next government check," Christie said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christie; obama
Chris Christie describes Obamaville perfectly.
1 posted on 04/10/2012 10:43:33 AM PDT by magellan
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To: magellan

Chris Christie describes himself perfectly.


2 posted on 04/10/2012 10:46:47 AM PDT by ngat
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To: magellan

People can’t get jobs.


3 posted on 04/10/2012 10:48:07 AM PDT by Politics4US
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To: Politics4US

When you ENCOURAGE labor unions to run the country, over-regulate industry to the point of strangulation, and over tax the hard-working backbone of the nation to redistribute their earnings to the do-nothings, you force industry to take the jobs elsewhere and you then have no jobs. I encourage Mr. Christie to get off his fat ‘couch’ and come up with a plan that will be an offer American industry cannot refuse. When we get the smoke stacks belching filth into the air again and the hammers banging and the wheels turning with American production this will begin to change. IF, and this is an important if, IF we will tell unions to take a seat and STFU!


4 posted on 04/10/2012 10:57:26 AM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: magellan

I can’t quite figure out why folks are blasting Christie for speaking the needed truth.


5 posted on 04/10/2012 11:00:29 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: magellan

Red meat for ‘REAL’ conservatives, He’s running for VP, ya know.


6 posted on 04/10/2012 11:04:06 AM PDT by corbe (mystified)
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To: magellan

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.” - Alexis de Tocqueville


7 posted on 04/10/2012 11:05:06 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: magellan

I know a lot of people don’t care for Christie (he is certainly more liberal than most of us here), but you really have to admire his guts for speaking the plain truth like this, saying things that Mitt Romney, for example, would never say in a million years.


8 posted on 04/10/2012 11:07:25 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
I can’t quite figure out why folks are blasting Christie for speaking the needed truth.

You and me both.

9 posted on 04/10/2012 11:09:38 AM PDT by jersey117 (The Stepford Media should be sued for malpractice)
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To: andy58-in-nh

I agree. I appreciate his bluntness!


10 posted on 04/10/2012 11:12:08 AM PDT by Floratina
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To: magellan
I'm given to understand that Social Security is backlogged with over 700,000 new disability claims - this as folks fall off of the generous unemployment payment gravy train and look for a permanent substitute.

The advantage to SS disability is that once one is on the program, in order to be removed, the agency has to be able to show improvement in the conditions which impelled the listing. This is a permanent entitlement paycheck.

11 posted on 04/10/2012 11:15:47 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
“I can’t quite figure out why folks are blasting Christie for speaking the needed truth.”

Because he is a loud mouth liberal slob? Just a guess.

12 posted on 04/10/2012 11:15:55 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: magellan
He might have wanted to choose different words.


13 posted on 04/10/2012 11:22:41 AM PDT by McGruff (Umm...I'm thinking.)
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To: magellan

Thats what happens when a Nation sends its manufacturing base overseas and imports about 50 million of the worlds most undesireable human beings.


14 posted on 04/10/2012 11:24:16 AM PDT by winodog
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To: magellan

Because of the United States’ Constitution, individuals are more able to develop a skill or talent and escape the “lot of man”, Poverty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workhouse
Patrick Colquhoun, 1806

Poverty ... is a most necessary and indispensable ingredient in society, without which nations and communities could not exist in a state of civilisation. It is the lot of man – it is the source of wealth, since without poverty there would be no labour, and without labour there could be no riches, no refinement, no comfort, and no benefit to those who may be possessed of wealth.


15 posted on 04/10/2012 11:27:58 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: magellan

Please let this go viral.... Obama on double speak if re-elected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Czo5Vf8KZs&feature=player_embedded


16 posted on 04/10/2012 11:29:34 AM PDT by ncfool (OMG 2012)
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To: Proud2BeRight

Alexis de Tocqueville never said any such thing.

It also happens to be untrue, or at least unproven.

Unless you’d care to list the world’s “great civilizations” and their length of existence and show why the 200 year period is accurate.

The quote is a pastiche of two different quotes that have been floating around on the interwebs for a long time. Neither by Tocqueville.

http://www.lorencollins.net/tytler.html


17 posted on 04/10/2012 11:31:48 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: jersey117

The reason is that he’s less than perfect. We conservatives are apparently Hell bent to see our country continue its dive into third world depravity rather than speak kindly of someone who we perceive as less than perfect.


18 posted on 04/10/2012 11:33:58 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: arrdon
When we get the smoke stacks belching filth into the air again and the hammers banging and the wheels turning with American production this will begin to change. IF, and this is an important if, IF we will tell unions to take a seat and STFU!

You mean if we can force people to work for Chinese wages??? IF we can start dumping raw sewage and chemicals into the creeks, streams and lakes???

Perhaps you could set the example for us...Give all your wages back to your employer above minimum wage, which is much too high anyway, some say...

And when you break a leg (after you your health benefits are lost) don't forget to ignore the hospital...Just lay down and die...

And with all the people back to work, more jobs will be created...There'll be a Dollar Store 2 to a block selling more of that Chinese junk to you and me...

19 posted on 04/10/2012 11:39:19 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Beagle8U

Please don’t call Gov. Christie a “loud mouth liberal slob”. Yes he is 80% RINO, but now and then some real truths and accurate observations on the sad state of our society come out of his mouth.

As far as the slob part, being a fatty is an unfortunate addiction or an emotional problem that is hard to control and lick. I’ve been there and know the pain of a weight problem. One’s self image and feelings about being fat are hard to handle and make one ashamed. At least fat just harms the one carrying it and rarely harms others, unlike drug and alcohol addiction. We get our fix legally and usually pay for it as well. Not too many fatties leave their kids unsupervised to get a burger or kill others while driving and eating. Most of us also have health insurance and don’t transfer the cost of medical treatment to society or run to the emergency room due to a too spicy taco


20 posted on 04/10/2012 11:40:52 AM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Well said by the Governor, and dead on-target.

Turning Middle America against the “Welfare Queens” as was done in 1980 will be a crucial part of this campaign.


21 posted on 04/10/2012 11:42:58 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Mr. Lucky

Correct! There are plenty of the “my way or the highway” types here.

These folks cannot see past their noses.


22 posted on 04/10/2012 11:43:15 AM PDT by GIANTSBEATPATS
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
I can’t quite figure out why folks are blasting Christie for speaking the needed truth.

Because he's making noise only speaking of the result of the problem, not the cause or solution...

We all know there are far too many people collecting gov't benefits...That's not newsworthy...Nor deserving of a pat on the back for acknowledging it...

23 posted on 04/10/2012 11:43:44 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Beagle8U
Because he is a loud mouth liberal slob? Just a guess.

What does that have to do with the merits of what he said? Look, there are some hard truth that need to be said in this country because there are some pretty tough issues facing us. Whether you like Christie or not, what he said here is something that needed to be said, and I'm glad a prominent Republican had the courage to say it.

24 posted on 04/10/2012 11:44:29 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Iscool
Because he's making noise only speaking of the result of the problem, not the cause or solution...We all know there are far too many people collecting gov't benefits...That's not newsworthy...Nor deserving of a pat on the back for acknowledging it...

I disagree. If all he talked about was too many people on government benefits, he could have blamed "the 1%", "the rich", "evil corporations", or any other liberal boogeyman. Instead, he pointed a finger right at those people and said that a lot of them just didn't have a work ethic, and had an entitlement mentality.

No Democratic/lefty would ever say that. They'd claim it was "blaming the victims", etc. Christie told it like it is. Regardless of his merits on other issues, on this one, he hit a home run.

25 posted on 04/10/2012 11:48:17 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Beagle8U
RE: “I can’t quite figure out why folks are blasting Christie for speaking the needed truth.”

Because he is a loud mouth liberal slob? Just a guess.


Good guess. Christie is an illegal alien loving, jihadi pandering, 2nd amendment hating, global warming enabling, ... well you get the picture.
26 posted on 04/10/2012 11:49:06 AM PDT by khelus
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To: Iscool

lol,what the hell are you talking about? It’s 2012 and unions are no longer necessary. The free market does very well taking care of employees wages and benefita and only those looking for a free ride need want unions.


27 posted on 04/10/2012 11:52:08 AM PDT by GIANTSBEATPATS
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To: Mr. Lucky

Christie is way past ‘less than perfect’. See post # 26 for a few of his fatal flaws. Talk is real cheap. Look at his record.


28 posted on 04/10/2012 11:54:10 AM PDT by khelus
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin; Beagle8U

He is not a good role model. I don’t think he could pass a stress test. He may just very well die in a bathtub, before noon, tomorrow.

I have more faith in Dick Cheney (I must admit I have a man-crush on him) serving another 4-8 years as P.O.T.U.S.

That is all.


29 posted on 04/10/2012 11:55:37 AM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain. FUBO: GOD BLESS DICK CHENEY! D.C. FOREVER!)
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To: magellan

Chris Christie likes to talk big, but what has he actually done? Why isn’t he talking about solutions instead of just rallying people to complain about problems we’ve already known for decades. Yawn.


30 posted on 04/10/2012 11:56:28 AM PDT by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: jersey117

I don’t know why “conservatives” from other parts of the county can’t get it through their thick heads that politicians like Christie and Romney could never get elected on a “pure” Goldwateresqe platform. The MA legislature is 90% Democrat and veto-proof and has been as long as I can remember. The people of MA are very left-wing and the few conservatives are more libertarian leaning than social conservatives.


31 posted on 04/10/2012 12:00:29 PM PDT by oncebitten (Obama: "A Big Ole’ Hunk of Nothing on Two Thick Slices of Nada.”)
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To: khelus

Golly, you’re right! We should all remain perched on our butts in front of computer screens and criticize Christie for pointing out that Americans spend too little time producing and too much sitting on their butts.


32 posted on 04/10/2012 12:01:58 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: magellan

Mr Governor, rather than giving speeches, please get back to Trenton and get to work on getting this great state back to work.


33 posted on 04/10/2012 12:15:51 PM PDT by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Chris Christie likes to talk big, but what has he actually done?

That is the real question.

I hear talk of a .5% income tax cut in NJ. Very BOLD of him. Wow, a whole .5% before the negotiations with DIMs? What a brave and BOLD move.

34 posted on 04/10/2012 12:20:09 PM PDT by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: magellan
at a conservative conference headed by former President George W. Bush.

That's funny right there.

35 posted on 04/10/2012 12:20:17 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: RicocheT
Sorry, he is 99% radical liberal. The fact that he takes on the unions doesn't change that.

If Romney had bad attitude and swallowed a Volkswagen, he would be a carbon copy of Christie.

Liberal pukes have no redeeming qualities.

36 posted on 04/10/2012 12:23:27 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
“and I'm glad a prominent Republican had the courage to say it.”

He isn't a ‘prominent Republican’, he's a liberal puke that likes to run his mouth.

37 posted on 04/10/2012 12:31:02 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Why yes I was correct in listing some of Christie’s fatal flaws, however I never posted that “We should all remain perched on our butts in front of computer screens and criticize Christie for pointing out that Americans spend too little time producing and too much sitting on their butts. “

You must have meant that part of your post for someone else.


38 posted on 04/10/2012 12:46:18 PM PDT by khelus
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To: magellan

I watched a couple of hours of the program online. It was heartening to hear talk of lower taxes to spur economic growth. I haven’t heard that in ages. The fact that Bush chose NYC and the New-York Historical Society for this event is quite interesting. It wouldn’t surprise me if resignations were proffered in protest.


39 posted on 04/10/2012 12:52:21 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Beagle8U
He isn't a ‘prominent Republican’, he's a liberal puke that likes to run his mouth.

Just because he is too liberal doesn't make him not a Republican. He very clearly is. He is also prominent, which is pretty much inherent in being a governor.

You're entitled to your own opinion. You're just not entitled to your own facts.

40 posted on 04/10/2012 1:12:17 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Boy he isnt kidding.

I was purchasing an apartment building last year and walked through many of them...

In the middle of the day, all were filled with ablebodied men and women, eating and watching big screen tvs. All on some sort of government subsidy. The realators were all pleased to announce that the buildings that they showed were filled with government subsidized tenants and that the rent was regular and could be counted on showing up. (so far, I thought).

I have had prospective tenants brag about their subsidies as a selling point for tenancy, she also had a rap sheet as long as my arm.

This is the new normal. Horrific!


41 posted on 04/11/2012 6:12:50 AM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: magellan

I realize a lot of people don’t like Christie BUT when he speaks it’s in a way that a lot of people can relate to and comes across as sincere. He could be what the Romney campaign needs. The problem then becomes getting the rest of the country fired up over two Northeast republican-lite politicians.


42 posted on 04/11/2012 6:24:22 AM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

It’s called pandering.


43 posted on 04/15/2012 9:01:27 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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