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April 10, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/10/2012 12:29:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

To hell with the GOP-e. Barring a miracle, they got their big government, unconstitutional mandate loving, socialist abortionist Obama-lite RINO on the ballot, they can now get him elected.

We are the resistance!!

Shove him down our throats today, we shove him up your donkeys in November!!

I can see November from my house!!


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To: Elsie

And you do that by.....?

As much as I agree with you that it would be that cut-and-dried, it is not, and it never will be. If that is your criteria, you will never vote again.


1,051 posted on 04/11/2012 6:49:18 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Catherine,
I am but a human who will stand before Christ. You do what the Lord tells you to do. I am simply saying that in November if the choice before me is Obama or Romney, I will vote for Romney because I do believe he wants me and my children free. I cannot say that of Obama.


1,052 posted on 04/11/2012 7:01:21 AM PDT by katieanna
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To: katieanna; CatherineofAragon
Think again.

The Romney Economy

It is arresting to imagine a Romney White House, inevitably filled with as many former Bain colleagues as each of his other public ventures have been: The ­PowerPoints, the 80-20 jargon, the clinical separation of decision-making from ideology, the detachment of those decisions from moral consequence, a persistent blind spot for people as people. It would represent the final ascension of a perfectly American type, one that has already remade the culture of business. I once asked a Bain colleague of Romney’s how Romney thought of his own core competence. “I think Mitt thinks he’s good at being Mitt Romney,” the colleague said.

1,053 posted on 04/11/2012 7:09:11 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Therefore, we need a conservative party. It would take off like wildfire if it was truly conservative and not initially corrupted (everything becomes corrupt eventually).

If this were true, Romney wouldn't be the nominee. McCain wouldn't have been the nominee. Neither would either Bush or Bob Dole.

If conservatives aren't enough to even be a controlling majority within the subset of voters that constitutes the GOP, how can they possibly be a controlling majority among voters as a whole? I will agree that an exceptional conservative candidate, one who is not only conservative but likeable, a great speaker, etc., can gain a majority. Reagain proved that. But candidates like that don't fall off the tree every election. The majority of the time, we have to get by with something less.

1,054 posted on 04/11/2012 7:21:52 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: All

I remember when people sat at the Bush I reelection because he broke the tax pledge. We showed him. Clinton showed us.

I remember how dismayed people were with the selection of King Establishment, Bob Dole. “I’ll vote for him, but I can’t campaign for that guy”, they said. The most corrupt administration in modern history got a second term.

I remember when people sat out the McCain election because McCain is/was King RINO. We showed him. Obama showed us.

6 trillion dollars in deficits in 3.5 years and the wait till next time hardliners are gearing up for another tank job. Good grief.

When did conservatives become libertarians, with the attendant self marginalizing pissing contests?

Are people really willing to spend another 3 decades battling one another outside of the primaries and waiting to see how far left the Dems can drag the nation by the time we get done?

If we lose in the primaries, we lose and we should move on. It’s nobody’s fault but our own that conservatives couldn’t get their act together in the primaries. I’m not okay with Obama’s reelection. I don’t have any other political priorities for this November. At all. I’m not interested in accomplishing anything this fall other than his removal from office. You people can spend your time and resources on whatever else you like.


1,055 posted on 04/11/2012 7:29:47 AM PDT by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: Eagle of Liberty

“Romney may suck, but to draw a moral equivalent between the two shows a lack of understanding or an unwillingness to believe in the depths that Obama will aim for in his second term to finally “Fundamentally Transform” America.”

Who’s the lesser of two evils is not the problem.

The problem is that half of the population rely on government for subsistance, one way or the other. They vote for big gubmint anyway.

The problem is, that if GOP wanted indeed to beat Obama, they wouldn’t pushed a Mass. Republican, a.k.a. a liberal, for whom “R” stands for “Reformer” for nomination.

The problem is that, without claiming it aloud, many Christian voters won’t choose a Mormon as president.

The problem is that Romney only “won” in blue states, which anyway vote for Obama in national election.

The problem is that Romney suxs.


1,056 posted on 04/11/2012 7:35:27 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Quix; MarkBsnr
I Somewhat often pray for extended periods between 02:00-04:00

Luke 18:11.....

1,057 posted on 04/11/2012 7:35:27 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

All these things you tremble that Obama might do in a second term are only possible if : 1) he isn't impeached first, and 2) Congress is filled with Mitt Romney's that will rubber stamp his evil. We are working to impeach him. We are working to load the houses with patriots. We are *NOT* going to set ourselves back in our efforts by willfully electing Romney in his place for POTUS. The fight does not end with the executive office. The fight does does not end in November.

Romney may suck, but to draw a moral equivalent between the two shows a lack of understanding or an unwillingness to believe in the depths that Obama will aim for in his second term to finally "Fundamentally Transform" America.

Bullsh*t. Most of us were well aware of Obama's intentions the moment he took office and understood it all too well. I'm a birther and damn proud of it trying to get the usurper removed before he could wreak this much damage. The "lack of understanding" here is your inability to see the big picture. Would you replace Barack Obama with Hillary Clinton if she ran as our candidate, our standard bearer, a republican? Would you let her represent and define "conservative" values for generations to come -- to redefine "constitutional"? Would you permit her definitions to become the "norm" as representative of our values?

No? I wouldn't either. If you elect Mitt Romney, that's what you get. That's the long term damage that is done. The democrat and republican parties effectively merge.

There's a bigger picture in play than November than you realize.


1,058 posted on 04/11/2012 7:39:28 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: cableguymn

“To say that Obama or Milt are my only options is false.”

Oh...Really???

Only if you’re leaving America!

WHAT is your “other” option, if you stay?


1,059 posted on 04/11/2012 7:47:05 AM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: Nobama_ever; navydad

“Not because I want to, but but because I have to. I’m just as conservative as the next person here, but frankly an unchecked second Obama term without him fearing re-election scares me to death.” — I know, my feelings exactly


1,060 posted on 04/11/2012 7:49:02 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

What characteristic SWEETNESS!


1,061 posted on 04/11/2012 7:58:06 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Principles built this nation against a much larger foe. And now you want to shuck them out of fear?

You can vote for whomever you like. But don't expect to be cheered for voting out of fear.

Well gee thanks for at least letting me vote for whoever I like.

And I don't expect to be cheered by a bunch of people who can't see the forrest for the trees. You can do the same and not vote there by helping Obama get elected.

If that happens, and it very possibly will, when things get worse you can look in the mirror and realize who was to blame.

And you cannot expect cheers when that happens.

1,062 posted on 04/11/2012 7:59:54 AM PDT by billva
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To: Jim Robinson

Darn it! I was going to post that...


1,063 posted on 04/11/2012 8:03:49 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: billva; Norm Lenhart
Romney is Obama. Wake up. Fight back! Don't let the elites steal the election. You tell me what the difference is between Obamney and Obamney! There is none!!! Fight back!

Romney's "accomplishments".

1. Implemented/created Gay Marriage in MA
2. Supported and forced Gay Adoption in MA
3. Supported Abortion wholeheartedly
4. Raised taxes/fees over 300% while being Governor of MA
5. Implemented a state-level Cap and Trade system.
6. Supported Man-Made Global Warming
7. Supported the Brady Bill
8. Implemented a state level “Assault” Weapons Bill after the Federal AWB was allowed to expire
9. Supported TARP
10. Supported Amnesty for Illegal Aliens (Citizenship for those already here)
11. Supported McCain-Kennedy(Amenesty)
12. Implemented a socialized medicine in MA called RomneyCare complete with an Individual Mandate and $50 abortions
13. Nominated 27 Democrats (out of 36 nominations) for judgeships in MA, many of them extreme left-wingers

1,064 posted on 04/11/2012 8:13:39 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Maverick68
For those for whom abortion is a key issue, it should be noted that abortion "came out of the closet" because of Roe v. Wade -- a Supreme Court decision. Not because of some act passed by Congress and the President.

The damage that a Supreme Court controlled by liberal, activist judges could do is much greater than what a Presdent can do, because there is no filibuster to stop them, and having control of one house of Congress won't stop them either. In fact, you can't even stop such a Court if you have the Presidency and both houses of Congress.

Give Obama the opportunity to replace one or more of the conservative justices on the Court with another Kagan or Sotomayor, and it's not going to matter if Ronald Reagan himself wins election in 2016. It will be game over.

People may not be sure that Romney will appoint conservative justices when he doesn't have to deal a Democratic committee that could veto his choices, as he did in Massachusetts. Perhaps his appointees would not be much better than Obama's. But we know what Obama's Supreme Court appointments will look like because he's already made two. There is no doubt as to what he'll do if he gets another vacancy to fill.

Watch a liberal-dominated Supreme Court toss out Congressional restrictions on the use of federal funds for abortions. Watch them run this country into the ground while there's nothing we can do about it. Anyone who forgets the legacy of the Warren Court should look it up.

If there is any chance that Romney will appoint more conservative justices than Obama -- and based on the advisors he's signed on, that seems a reasonable bet -- then I think the choice is clear.

We cannot give Obama 5 votes on the Supreme Court.

1,065 posted on 04/11/2012 8:18:12 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: dayglored

You have convinced me.

In the die-hard Democrat lock states, it makes no sense to vote for Romney, since your vote is lost anyway.

I live in California. Since California will go big for Obama, my vote and JimRob’s vote aren’t wasted on a 3rd party, since we can’t influence the election anyway.

You just gave me the reason I needed to write in Sarah Palin for president.

I AM FREE! WHOOPEE!

Thank you for making my day. I’m free to write in Palin since my vote won’t count in California anyway.

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1,066 posted on 04/11/2012 8:20:18 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Oh don’t worry, all these noble conservatives are going to write in loser candidates and go home and feel all proud that they gave Obama four more years to do more harm than they can possibly imagine. After all, Romney is the new anti-christ now don’t you know ...

Those that compare Obama to Romney and think they are equal are worse than fools, they don’t deserve to even vote they are so ignorant.


1,067 posted on 04/11/2012 8:22:28 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian
Someone made a very good point earlier in this thread that I've been considering for a long time as well.

No politician can accomplish anything, much less get reelected, if he completely turns his back on his political base. And no matter how far to the left Romney would go, the Democrats would still run someone to oppose him.

Regardless of where Romney's center truly lies, and even if he is nothing more than a sheer opportunist, the fact that he needs support from rank and file Republicans will force him to be more conservative than Obama.

1,068 posted on 04/11/2012 8:27:20 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bikkuri

I like the graphic and would like to use it. Can you fix the spelling of point #11 (amenesty)? I know what you meant, but in a graphic file I can’t easily fix the spelling.


1,069 posted on 04/11/2012 8:27:26 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I live in Utah. Romney would win against Ronald Reagan.

I am free to write in Sarah Palin!

I AM FREE! WHOOPEE!

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1,070 posted on 04/11/2012 8:27:45 AM PDT by colorcountry (In order to practice tolerance, I must first disagree. But when I do, I'm accused of being intoleran)
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To: Jim Robinson
To hell with the GOP-e. Barring a miracle, they got their big government, unconstitutional mandate loving, socialist abortionist Obama-lite RINO on the ballot, they can now get him elected.

Well, Romney had better enjoy this, the very last political victory he will ever experience in his lifetime. There is no way in hell he will be elected POTUS in November.

1,071 posted on 04/11/2012 8:34:43 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: darrellmaurina

Lol.. didn’t even notice that.. The text was a copy/paste... Since I closed PS, I can’t ‘change’ the text now... but I may be able to do some patchwork ..

Let me see what I can do with it (I thought I had double-checked everything.. but after I had finalized and closed it, I noticed the shadow was a bit cut off too :/).. I really need a second person to check stuff before I close it (finalize) Xp


1,072 posted on 04/11/2012 8:40:40 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Jim Robinson

Why can’t Newt or somebody unite all these Conservative Delegates ....He’d have over 400, just around 200 less than Mitt and the rest of the primaries would be winnable for Gingrich since the conservative vote wouldn’t be split.


1,073 posted on 04/11/2012 8:40:40 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Yaelle

As a native born Californian who has lived here all my life, I am VERY GRATEFUL that liberal California is among the last states to nominate national politicians.

Look at the freaking RINOs we get running for the US Senate. I mean, Carly Fiorina????? Are you kidding me. FioRINA????

I am sooooooooooooo grateful that California can’t make the national GOP nominee even more of a bedwetting liberal than we end up getting. No, I’m glad we are cut out of the nominating process. Very glad.

Sure, we have tons of solid Conservatives here. The RINO crucible tempers us to be stronger Conservatives. But still we are not the majority of the GOP here in CA. The majority are more like Arnold Schwarzenneger than they are like us.

I can’t wait to leave this commie hellhole of a state, but that is a different topic. Be thankful that CA is not among the first states in the presidential nominating process.


1,074 posted on 04/11/2012 8:44:55 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: katieanna

I understand your reasoning. However, on another thread someone posted pictures of aborted babies, and they were gruesome (of course). I was looking at them and thinking that Mitt Romney made that kind of murder possible. For only $50, women in MA today are killing infants, and the blame lies with Romney. I just would ask Christians who are considering voting for this man to keep that in mind and pray about it. I believe putting a mark beside his name to elect him to lead this country is a grave sin.


1,075 posted on 04/11/2012 8:45:23 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Marguerite
The problem is, that if GOP wanted indeed to beat Obama, they wouldn’t pushed a Mass. Republican, a.k.a. a liberal, for whom “R” stands for “Reformer” for nomination.

Okay, then riddle me this. NONE of those people who have come out and endorsed Romney want to beat Obama? None of them? They are all in on the joke? If so, then we are sitting at a HUGE disadvantage with no Field General to take this conservative movement to the next level.

And to add to that, we will have a Marxist as our leader for another four years. And at the end of those four years, no matter how bad Obama makes things, his loyal troops will vote for the next far left politician because that is what they desire. They desire a TRANSFORMED America. We are simply giving it to them on a silver platter. AND we are getting backed into a corner where the only way out will be armed rebellion.

This is not a typical "lesser of two evils" scenario because Obama is an entirely different kind of evil. If he still wins re-election despite all that we know about him, God help us.
1,076 posted on 04/11/2012 8:52:05 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Bush2 was my "RINO too far."

Welcome to the no party party.

1,077 posted on 04/11/2012 8:52:26 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: CatherineofAragon
The real people who enabled that were those Supreme Court justices in the majority in Roe v. Wade. I would not doubt, in the least, that a liberal majority of the Supreme Court would find that the Hyde Amendment, and any other specific restriction on the funding of abortions, would be found to be a violation of Equal Protection.

You want more abortions, and federal financing? Give Obama the chance to nominate another Justice or two.

1,079 posted on 04/11/2012 9:10:08 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Once-Ler

“Another pro Obama Freeper. rat...It’s the new conservatism!”

So, where do you stand? Are you pro-Romney? I know you are pro socialized medicine, because both candidates not only support it, they AUTHORED it.

How about the SCOTUS? Both guys are going to nominate liberals, because both of their records are prima facia on that fact. You a pro-Sotomayor for Chief Justice guy?

Both candidates will give it to you.

I’m with Alexander Hamilton on this - If we can’t nominate a conservative, then let the liberal win, and let him wear the fruits of his labors.

It’s funny, because it’s not like Hamilton had over 200 years of American electoral experience to utter what he did about the matter. He’d seen the same thing in England.

As such, its what some would call ‘learning from history’. This is one of the original reasons why public education made such a good idea at the time - if people learned history, they may not be inclined to repeat some of the more regrettable aspects of it.

So, here’s the lesson - if you settle for a liberal to represent the conservative party, you guarantee multiple decades of liberal governance at almost every level. This isn’t conjecture - it’s a fact. The liberals will blame ALL conservatives because they nominated a liberal, and are now unhappy with the results of their ‘conservative’ representative.

The liberals have a point. If you want to screw it up, at least be honest about it. Liberals will come out and tell you the Constitution has outlived its usefulness. Massachusetts conservatives will simply flout the Constitution, and trot it out at the midterms.

The only way this sick bunch if party hacks are going to learn is if they lose this election. They, like you, tend to repeat their history. They nominated McCain, pretty much an avowed liberal, and got hammered. They decided it was because people wanted to make history electing a black President, and not because McCain was a double-talking representative of the media elite. There’s not a camera McCain didn’t love.

So, they go out and do it again - hand us a liberal. Now, you can attempt to blame me for another four years of Obama, which already just happened anyway, or you can blame Coulter, Rove, Noonan, Drudge, and the rest of the hacks that did this to you.

The rest of us will just stick to learning from history. They are going to lose despite everything working in the favor of Republicans, and in the end, they will end up blaming us, not them. It’s what liberals do, after all. Especially after living in Capitol City (DC) for too long.

I guess Hunger Games had to come out since nobody seems to understand George Orwell anymore.

2 + 2 is 4, not 5. You lost the election this year no matter who wins. Put some ice on it. Walk it off. Drink a little.


1,080 posted on 04/11/2012 9:14:15 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
You want more abortions, and federal financing? Give Obama the chance to nominate another Justice or two.

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Yep, four more BHO years will give us Chief Justice Sotomayor and forty years of a communist court guided by lesbian politics.

Anybody willing to enable this is short-sighted, a fool or worse.

1,081 posted on 04/11/2012 9:17:05 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin; All
Since when is winning a presidential election such a big secret?

There is already a tried and true method of winning that almost everyone uses who wins.

You need a lot of recognition or someone like Ted Kennedy patheing the way for you or white guilt to run on.

Also you need lots of money,a huge well run organization and contacts all over the place within the party and key states you wish to run in.Do all that and even if you are a mediocre candidate,a rino or even communist your chances are good of winning.

So now for 2016 we need to ask our selves who can we help prepare using the tried and true methods of winning elections who can break the RINO hold the RNC has on representing the Republican Party.

We have made huge inroads. Now is not the time to give up and sit out an election because our guy did not win.

1,082 posted on 04/11/2012 9:22:29 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: CatherineofAragon

“I understand your reasoning. However, on another thread someone posted pictures of aborted babies, and they were gruesome (of course). I was looking at them and thinking that Mitt Romney made that kind of murder possible. For only $50, women in MA today are killing infants, and the blame lies with Romney.”

Same here. I was thinking the pictures were on the wrong thread. They need to be here for the pro Romney people to be confronted with and what they’ll have to answer to God for. As for the argument that it was the supreme court that allowed this, with the rampant abuse of executive orders, what’s to stop Romney from using that with regards to abortion or homosexual marriage? Even if he does nothing, he by his actions has legitimatized both, and will even more so as POTUS.


1,083 posted on 04/11/2012 9:27:47 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
I understand your reasoning. However, on another thread someone posted pictures of aborted babies, and they were gruesome (of course). I was looking at them and thinking that Mitt Romney made that kind of murder possible. For only $50, women in MA today are killing infants, and the blame lies with Romney. I just would ask Christians who are considering voting for this man to keep that in mind and pray about it. I believe putting a mark beside his name to elect him to lead this country is a grave sin.

I understand your post, but the legality of abortions is not going to change any time soon and will definitely not change for another 20-30 years if Obama gets another one or two Justices, but thankfully, through a better message by pro-life groups, abortions are going down in nearly every state. You cannot legislate morality, but you CAN teach it. Abortions occurred before Roe v Wade and will occur even if legislation in every state makes it illegal. So, my fear is not just the death of the unborn but the death of our country. IMO, re-electing Obama is a grave sin.
1,084 posted on 04/11/2012 9:32:43 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: pops88
Same here. I was thinking the pictures were on the wrong thread. They need to be here for the pro Romney people to be confronted with and what they’ll have to answer to God for.

This makes no sense to me. There is no question that Obama is as pro-choice as it gets, including partial birth abortion. There is no reasoned argument that the reelection of Obama will lessen the number of abortions compared to the election of Romney, and pretty decent reasons to assume the opposite.

As for the argument that it was the supreme court that allowed this, with the rampant abuse of executive orders, what’s to stop Romney from using that with regards to abortion or homosexual marriage?

That makes no legal sense at all. Executive orders cannot bar a state from outlawing abortion, not do they last beyond the term of the President in question. Supreme Court decisions, however, survive until overruled. How's that working out with Roe v. Wade?

1,085 posted on 04/11/2012 9:43:50 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Scythian; Bruce Campbells Chin

Those that compare Obama to Romney and think they are equal are worse than fools, they don’t deserve to even vote they are so ignorant.

Oh, that is just being silly. We "noble conservatives" understand that Romney may be as liberal as Hillary Clinton, but he's not quite the marxist socialist that Obama is.

The point is ... we recognize when the rope-a-dope is being pulled on us. And some suckers (perhaps like you) are being fooled into supporting a candidate comparable to Hillary Clinton as the new measure and standard of all things "conservative".

In 2008 would you have preferred Hillary Clinton over John McCain? No? I wouldn't either. Doing so would have pushed the "center" far to the "left". I wouldn't give her four to eight years to redefine the conservative point of view on all issues. Jumping on the Romney bandwagon is akin to asking Hillary to run as the republican candidate --- although she is likely closer to "center", more business friendly, and probably more competent than Romney.

Don't let the liberals trick you into merging the democrat and republican parties into one big progressive tent. Romney represents "conservatism" like Benedict Arnold represent "patriotism". Sure, they run in the same circles, know the same people, and all "love America" ... but they are very different at their core indeed. Prefer the enemy standing before you in the open; fear the enemy hidden at your back.


1,086 posted on 04/11/2012 10:09:49 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

No, I don’t want more abortions and federal financing, which is one of the reasons I can’t in good conscience vote for Romney any more than I could vote for Obama. Romney IS the father of Romneycare, which instituted $50 abortions. He held Planned Parenthood fundraisers, donated to them, appointed pro-abortion judges in MA (the majority of the judges he appointed were leftists), and said that his mother had brought him up to be “pro-choice.”

I can’t be a part of that.


1,087 posted on 04/11/2012 10:10:59 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Nik Naym

Read the title of the thread.

“FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.”

1.6 million abortions PER YEAR under Reagan.

Government spending continued increasing under Reagan.

We all know Reagan was better than Carter, and we all know Reagan is far better then Romney.

But Reagan supported Ford and HW Bush RINOs when confronted with the alternative Dem. And he did nothing to reduce abortions or the size of government!!!!!

It’s ridiculous to think he wouldn’t campaign actively for Romney against Obama if he were around still.


1,088 posted on 04/11/2012 10:11:16 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: RinaseaofDs

So, here’s the lesson - if you settle for a liberal to represent the conservative party, you guarantee multiple decades of liberal governance at almost every level. This isn’t conjecture - it’s a fact. The liberals will blame ALL conservatives because they nominated a liberal, and are now unhappy with the results of their ‘conservative’ representative.


I disagree with this. Not that this is not true precedent. That, indeed, is a fact. Precedent can be learned from history.

But it is time to CREATE a precedent and create a new powerful party, in 2013!!!

We can stop the cycle you describe. We can choose the lesser of the evils today, and WORK, WITH MONEY AND GRASSROOTS, to create an actual TEA PARTY.

And we must.

BUT BECAUSE THINGS AREN’T PERFECT
And
BECAUSE IT HAS HAPPENED A CERTAIN WAY IN HISTORY
Doesn’t mean we are locked into this.

It should now be crystal clear that the Republican party is no friend to Conservatives and they will always take us for granted.

Let them win this battle. they have to, because obama’s communism must be stopped. If you aren’t helping Romney at this point, you are an Obama supporter.

BUT WE WILL WIN THE WAR. No hurry. We need time anyway to educate people. 2013 we begin creating a strong conservative party. It’s time.


1,089 posted on 04/11/2012 10:11:16 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: pops88

We should keep in mind he signed an executive order to force Catholic hospitals in MA to make the abortion pill available.


1,090 posted on 04/11/2012 10:12:33 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: navydad
And that has been working just peachy so far, huh!

Since Republicans took over the House, Obama has gotten very little accomplished.

What don't comprehend, apparently, is that Romney will be able to work with RINOs to push through legislation Obama could only dream of getting passed.

1,091 posted on 04/11/2012 10:13:17 AM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

I won’t be re-electing Obama. I don’t plan to vote for him, or Romney, or any other liberal. With all due respect, your post seems to be an attempt to rationalize voting for pro-abortion Romney. I can’t do that.


1,092 posted on 04/11/2012 10:15:07 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: so_real
All these things you tremble that Obama might do in a second term are only possible if : 1) he isn't impeached first, and 2) Congress is filled with Mitt Romney's that will rubber stamp his evil.

Or 3) Nobody shows up to vote for Romney, turning enough Red seats in the House to Blue, giving Obama another completely-Democrat controlled Congress.

Bullsh*t. Most of us were well aware of Obama's intentions the moment he took office and understood it all too well.

You are correct there and yet you still draw an equivalent between Romney and Obama. Romney may not be anywhere close to a good conservative, but he is NOT Obama.

Would you replace Barack Obama with Hillary Clinton if she ran as our candidate, our standard bearer, a republican?

Strawman

There's a bigger picture in play than November than you realize.

Oh, I realize it. If Obama wins again, get ready for a real squashing of political speech in this country. And in your view, if Romney wins, conservatives are gone and I disagree with this. We were able to change the mind of W on more than one issue with our ability to burn up the Federal phone lines. We can do that again with Romney.

I guess my question that goes still unanswered is okay, we allow Obama to win re-election. Then what? If there is indeed a bigger picture in play, how is another four years of Obama going to help US?
1,093 posted on 04/11/2012 10:16:36 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: CatherineofAragon
With all due respect, your post seems to be an attempt to rationalize voting for pro-abortion Romney. I can’t do that.

And that's fine. I was just looking for a logical discussion on what can possibly be done on the issue of abortion by the President anyway. To me, it just seems like re-electing Obama and allowing him another Justice appointment or two does significantly more damage to the pro-life movement than Romney will ever do.
1,094 posted on 04/11/2012 10:20:30 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“This makes no sense to me. There is no question that Obama is as pro-choice as it gets, including partial birth abortion.”

I did not vote for Obama. My hands are clean. I have said before, if our country is so gone that so called conservatives and Christians will vote for pro abortion, $50 abortion, Romney, then the country deserves the judgement it gets from God under the government they elect. I’ll stay under the shadow of God’s wings, thanks. Sadly, unless we Nineveh up pretty quick, it seriously isn’t going to matter whether we get Romney or Obamoa. We’ll be judged.


1,095 posted on 04/11/2012 10:22:33 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: so_real
Well, Santorum endorsed Romney as the more conservative alternative to McCain in 2008. Romney hasn't moved anywhere except to the right since then.

We're now seeing the shunning of anyone who has decided to endorse Romney (or the more generic "whomever the GOP nominates) at this point as not being "real" conservatives either. So Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, Newt Gingrich (who has said he'll support Romney as the nominee), and even Sarah Palin are all out too. Fools and/or traitors all!

So, uh, who is left at this point?

Nobody is under any illusions here that Romney is a conservative dream candidate. He's not. But on most issues, he's clearly to the right of Obama, even if he's not as far right as we'd like. And I can't think of any issue on which he is to Obama's left. He still at least gives us the rhetoric of capitalism, opposes Obama's plan to massively hike taxes, wants to reduce regulation, supports the Keystone pipeline, opposes ObamaCare as a federal program, etc. He's not perfect, but he's significantly better than Obama. According to Palin, "infinitely better".

RomneyCare is a terrible, and if Romney was running for governor in my state, I'd fight as hard as I could. But he's not. And as long as he opposes ObamaCare, even on the grounds of federalism, that still makes him much, much better than Obama on that.

It's not that he's conservative. He is, as Gingrich as accurately labelled him, a "Massachusetts Moderate". But that is still significantly better than being a Chicago Socialist.

1,096 posted on 04/11/2012 10:23:32 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Well said sir. It has been awhile since I donated. I just kicked in some. I wished I could afford more.

Sir, is there anything you can do about those here that constantly berat those of us that have taken a NO ROMNEY ever position? Can you make that a zotable offense please?

This needs to the the home of the revolution against the forces that suppress conservatism. Obama is a easily recognized evil and enemy. It is the Romneys that are insidious, but just as bad.

The Jim Jone’s Koolaid drinkers that will vote for Romney anyway need to shut up here.


1,097 posted on 04/11/2012 10:24:58 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin; All

“He is, as Gingrich as accurately labelled him, a “Massachusetts Moderate”. But that is still significantly better than being a Chicago Socialist.”

Newt was being a generous gentleman. Romney is no better than Obama. Don’t fall for that line of thinking. He is not a “moderate.” He also has socialist leanings. The best that can be said about Romney is that he isn’t Marxist.


1,098 posted on 04/11/2012 10:29:41 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Bikkuri

Thanks Bikkuri, I will.


1,099 posted on 04/11/2012 10:35:21 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: sam_paine

If you are blaming Reagan for abortions then the simple fact is you are a one issue idiot.

Reagan was NOT pro abortion. To imply otherwise is to slander a good man and shows what a shallow, simple minded fool you are.

A president can not simply decree that abortions must stop and then they magically stop.

If you think Reagan was in any way responsible for even one abortion then you are a raving nut job.

If you don’t like what I said, go whine to the mods or sue me.


1,100 posted on 04/11/2012 10:36:13 AM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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