Skip to comments.Jim Rob Is Right - But Conservatives HERE Have TWO Jobs To Do!
Posted on 04/10/2012 5:52:15 PM PDT by Ron C.Edited on 04/10/2012 6:11:00 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
First - blow off that feeling that we're going to lose, or already have lost! No, we're going to WIN.
First item of business, get invovlved in the Tea Party movement, and give D.C. a whole new influx of conservatives in Congress similar in size and importance to that of the last election - thereby blocking any of Obamas chances of having Congressional support for his machinations. Note too, the Tea Party used the GOP vehicle, not a third party. Reason, third parties are losers, because they don't have the national organization and presence large enough to compete.
FReepers need to get involved locally. There are tens of thousands of empty seats in local district Committees of the GOP across this nation - caused mostly by conservative appathy! Just by showing up regularly, you can be assured of gaining a seat from which you can VOTE - go to your county committees and vote there - and go to your state party conventions and vote there! (I personally helped see the ouster of liberal GOP control of the California GOP. Yes it was hard work, but we won - and that win has been, and can be duplicated in these perilous times through the 'hard work' of just SHOWING UP!)
Conservatives have a chance to block Obama, if not replace him. We CAN do that, but conservatives can not win by voting third-party - it's a throw-away vote that nets nothing.
The current GOP-E is NOT the friend of FREEDOM - but they are a very tiny group of RINO's that we can beat the snot out of - simply by doing what we can at the local district and state level. We - FReepers, and other dedicated conservatives - can and have ultimately fielded who becomes part of the GOP establishment. We need to OWN it like we did in the Reagan era, not destroy it through lack of attention to our God given orders to be 'watchmen on the wall' of who become our leaders.
No - it's not too late to shoulder your own responsibility - and earn your own right to say, 'I have fought the good fight, and WE WON.' There will be many opportunities in coming days to 'get involved' - don't let them slip by. Take advantage of the huge opportunities - you can, and will make a difference! It is quite fulfilling to debate hated RINO's FACE TO FACE - WIN when the vote is tallied - and see them denied a seat in party or public office!
Last but not least - we ALL need to get behind our Freepathon. Isn't it worth at least a dollar per day to you to come here, read, post, laugh and debate? Yes, I know, times are rough, and the 'cost of living' has gone way up. But, I'll bet you blow a lot on chocolate cake and ice cream or (insert your favorite deserts) - I, unfortunately, do! So let's all try to push this FReepathon toward an early completion - it might help save your waistline! LOL
I still tell everyone that I'm a Texan, though.
“While I appreciate your well thought out missive ... it is this for me. I utterly refuse to vote the enemy into our camp. That, of course, is Romney. Ive said it many times here, but it is better to have Obama to fight against, than to have Romney and his ilk take over the GOP and eliminate us. While I wont vote for Obama under threat of death, it is better to have him in the WH than Romney. IF Romney is elected, Conservatism dies. If (as will probably happened) Romney loses in a landslide, the idiot wisdom of the GOP elite will be exposed and we can build a Conservative GOP.
This is MUCH more than the 2012 elections. I will not help the GOP in this one. I will vote 3rd or, more likely, sit this one out now that Santorum has pulled out.”
I’m with you except for the part about “sitting out” the election. Your votes are needed in local and congressional districts. You can vote Constitution Party or some other conservative presidential candidate.
Don’t you dare squander your God given right to vote.
In reality, if Romney buys this nomination (Go NEWT) Romney would lose. In that case, this country goes bankrupt which is near inevitable anyway - the STATE and local governent in which you live will be of paramount importance in protecting your rights against the Saboteur and his rogue agencies.
You need to assure your state is stacked with conservative government like we have in Florida. If you live in a northern state like those Obama/Romney voting states - you need to move South to the conservative, God Fearing States of America.
Obama will have more flexibility to put us all in camps and to continue destroying America with trillions in debt, more socialism,giving away our sovereignty to the UN, having the UN take our guns, taking away our missile defense and nukes, more illegals ,destroying our industries, giving our jobs to China, censoring the Internet with ACTA, and a thousand other crimes this monster Obama and his democrat/socialist media complex will do to us Americans.. I will never surrender to Obama nor to the democrat/socialist media complex.
If you’ve done the math on that, show us. Somehow I doubt you’ve finished analyzing all the state polls and delegate allocation rules today to account for a Rick drop-out.
We will NEVER vote for that liberal phoney, Mitt Romney at my house. At least, Obama has had opposition to his socialist agenda by most Republicans in Congress, however, with Romney as president, Republicans would guarantee the passage of that socialist agenda.
I haven’t voted yet either and it won’t be for Romney in the Primary.
Thank you very much, RonC.
Like our Founder and Leader reminds us, “Rebellion starts from the bottom up!”
This is no time to surrender. It’s time to reload.
Several primary states have not voted.
Vote for Newt Gingrich and try for a brokered convention.
Pray non-stop and remember, we have yet to begin to fight!
As I read through the statements expressed here, I could just weep. I have no idea who really did it, but from my perspective they succeeded. The division here will sink us all.
I read comments saying ‘I’m old and won’t be around to see the end’, well that’s very very brave and kind of you, others here have children and we are willing to continue fighting this nightmare until we are unable to ~
I have never held such disdain in my soul for another until barry destroyed my world. Everyday it’s another fire in the pan, more chaos, more deception, more class warfare crap, endless waste of our resources and slowly killing the heart of this country -
The absolute worst 3.5 years of my life, and it HAS TO END.
“A strong Green Party will split the leftist vote, giving the Republicans a better chance at squeaking by in future elections.
If your state is Blue, vote Green!”
Great thought process.
Real conservatives sit it out!
You’re not getting it, we’re not debating the ethics of this tactic, we’re debating the effectiveness. How does it help either send to have surrogates saying their candidate is too moderate when most likely the message they’re trying to get out is that their opponent is too extreme? That can’t work in today’s world when every ad will hit the internet and cable and won’t be limited to a specific region.
THAT is the imperative! When things look bad, it is time to lock 'n load, and charge into the battle anew and even more determined!
God is on our side! We might lose a battle here and there, but we win the war!
Hahaha! That's awesome! Never heard that before. Googling it but can't find when and where it was said. Just curious.
Well, actually I thought of a better answer for you. If they paint Romney as a flip-flopper, they’ll be able to show different quotes of his showing both liberal and conservative statements. So if they use that tactic, it could work.
Well, there are very many that really appreciates what he is trying to do for conservatism - and that is, blunt the RINO surge. He will hang around as long as possible, just to give the liberal RINO's fits - and quite likely turn things a bit more toward conservatism.
I think that I got it from a quote site. Gingrich has some good ones! LOL
I agree. I will do nothing to enable four more years of Obama. We must get the correct House and Senate in office in any case...if we do that and elect Romney, things will turn around because the new Congress will enure that Romney is given the legislation to fulfill his promises.
Whatever else Romney is, he is clearly a politician and this is the chance for the pinnacle of his career. He is not an ideolog and he will not throw away a chance at eight years by betraying those who get him into office and ensure he makes good on his promises. To do so would be political suicide.
So, as much as I had hoped another would win...and there’s still an outside chance for that...I’ll vote for Romney over the clear Marxist Obama
If Romney does go forward and win the nomination now, let’s see who his VP pick is too.
Romney was elected in a DNC dominated state, Mass. It is really more MassCare than RomneyCare IMHO. He had to run center...and I believe the plan would have been even worse without him there. Study his vetoes sometime...it tells you something about him too. Most of them were over ridden by an 85% controlled state house.
I do not like his changes on critical issues any more than anyone else...but there is something there a proper house and senate can use that would be orders of magnitude better than Obams.
This is a decision that every person must make and it is very personal and varied...but I honestly believe I must oppose Obama, even with Romney, for the sake of my eight grandkids and their future.
You’re 100% correct. It’s much better to have a liberal than a traitor in office.
I'm supremely disappointed that Romney will be our nominee, but I'm choosing to deal with reality. Reality as I see it: choosing to sit the presidential election out if Romney is the nominee will ensure Obama’s victory. Sorry, but as big a RINO as Romney might be, he doesn't hate the country. At least with Romney we have a chance to save the country; another four years of Obama will ensure our destruction!
Again, I'm choosing to deal with reality here...even if this reality isn't to my liking. I'll do what i have to do to save this country.
4/24 - the only state Newt could compete in is Pennsylvania. (If you think Gingrich has a chance in CT, DE, NY, and RI, you are overly hopeful.
100% of Santorum to Gingrich might give him 41 of the 231 that day.
Romney 663 + 190 = 853
5/8 Indiana (Newt + Santorum) 33. Romney 26 delegates = at least 12 of 27 for Romney = 865
North Carolina (proportional) Romney’s 31% about 15(for CDs) + 6 GOP-e = 886
West Virgina (Proportional) Romney’s estimated 30% gives him another 9 (with the 3 GOP-e) = 895
5/15 Oregon 14 each = 909
5/22 Kentucky 25 = 934
Arkansas 20 = 954
5/29 Texas (unclear if they can make this WTA or not) + 55 = 1009
6/5 California Romney + 103 = 1112
New Jersey Romney + 50 = 1162
New Mexico Romney +13 = 1175
South Dakota?? I am not sure on this one. ND went heavily Romney.
Montana and Utah = 66 more.
Before Wisconsin and from Santorum’s point of view, it was doable. Where there is not a poll to use, I used the state around to give an idea and rounded in Newt’s favor (except the GOP-e delegates who are unelected.)
Asserting that a third party vote is not wasted does not erase the treachery you share with the left in an Obama victory.
You are exactly where I am.
God willing, this lousy excuse for a president will be given his walking papers, if not by kicking his lousy butt out of office, then at least by taking control of Congress so that he can't pass a single thing he wants to.
2012 is going to be an exact repeat of 2008’s election results, because of the shell-game the Ruling Class has foisted on We The People.
Like the old Soviet Union, we are now having our candidates selected for us by the burgeoning oligarchy running the show. Conservatism is clearly an enemy of these people, and like RIghtwardHo - I will be damned to again play their shell game by their rules again. We’re all being duped and deceiving ourselves that Romney is a choice that is better than Obama. Romney is a noose for Conservatism in America every bit as the noose Obama is for America.
Conservatives have no party - the GOP has discarded us and only uses us to get elected, whereupon they bash us the first chance they get and go along with the enemy. I’m done being the battered wife voter.
If history is any teacher, then we have to understand two things: voting in this election is not going to stop the Marxist Tyrant; the hour is later than most are willing to admit.
Secondly: only God can spare us our earned fate now. Our society has been allowed to become wicked and leavened. Why should God spare us what this people have chosen for themselves when His own people refuse to do 2 Chronicles 7:14? If you want to save the country and what is left of our liberty - THAT is the only solution that can save us now.
Romney is another obama on social issues and spending and the way he went about this nomination is something I or my family or most I know down here will never forget.
He’s nothing but a north east liberal and sadly from what I have seen, talked to and met that most north east so called republicans are like him.
Hell even when those so called republicans come down here they talk and have the same views socially and sort of fiscally as the Dems
I'd rather have a president who believes in nothing than one who believes in doing everything to destroy America and Christian civilization.
Besides, how can Romney be a socialist and have no core beliefs? If he is a socialist, then that's a core belief of his.
“If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.” - Alexander Hamilton
Mitt can be relegated to history's backwaters yet.
In full disclosure, I held the same “I'll never vote for the RINO Romney” sentiments that many are still holding to. I think people saw all the hard work that the Tea Parties did for our win in 2012 go down the drain with the GOPE shoving yet another RINO down our throats. I understand the bitterness and disgust with having to once again eat another SH*T sandwich and hold our noses. However, reality is what it is. To help me deal with this reality, I remind myself that whatever Romney is, he's not Marxist, and he doesn't hate the country. In my choice to cling to the reality of the situation we're facing; holding these views of Romney will enable me to vote for him if need be. Is this the ideal situation, or the way i wanted things to be? Hell no! But again, I'm choosing to deal with reality...not what I want.
Four more years of Obama and our country is finished...with Romney, at least we have a fighting chance, IMHO.
Romney simply isn't a guy anyone wants to vote for or support.
He's far from inevitable.
You think that he believes in "christian" civilization? Do you know anything about Mormons? You'd better find out.
think this is where you are from.
From the liberal areas like the north east and the west coast then Romney is no problem, he is a liberal on many matters like homo’s planned parenthood etc, where as here in the south and the midwest where the conservative base is then we see things very much differently.
I’ve met many from the north east and the west coast who think of themselves republicans but then they come out with the same crap of “well I know a homo he is nice” etc
Here in the south etc we actually look at them as another liberal who only cares about themselves.
As for evangelicals, are you kidding me, some of them want open borders etc because they think Jesus would.
Romney is another liberal plain and simple
Or you could vote for your “favorite son.”