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Jim Rob Is Right - But Conservatives HERE Have TWO Jobs To Do!
4/10/12 | Ron C

Posted on 04/10/2012 5:52:15 PM PDT by Ron C.

Edited on 04/10/2012 6:11:00 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Jim Rob Is Right - But Conservatives Here Have TWO Jobs To Do!

First - blow off that feeling that we're going to lose, or already have lost! No, we're going to WIN.

First item of business, get invovlved in the Tea Party movement, and give D.C. a whole new influx of conservatives in Congress similar in size and importance to that of the last election - thereby blocking any of Obamas chances of having Congressional support for his machinations. Note too, the Tea Party used the GOP vehicle, not a third party. Reason, third parties are losers, because they don't have the national organization and presence large enough to compete.

FReepers need to get involved locally. There are tens of thousands of empty seats in local district Committees of the GOP across this nation - caused mostly by conservative appathy! Just by showing up regularly, you can be assured of gaining a seat from which you can VOTE - go to your county committees and vote there - and go to your state party conventions and vote there! (I personally helped see the ouster of liberal GOP control of the California GOP. Yes it was hard work, but we won - and that win has been, and can be duplicated in these perilous times through the 'hard work' of just SHOWING UP!)

Conservatives have a chance to block Obama, if not replace him. We CAN do that, but conservatives can not win by voting third-party - it's a throw-away vote that nets nothing.

The current GOP-E is NOT the friend of FREEDOM - but they are a very tiny group of RINO's that we can beat the snot out of - simply by doing what we can at the local district and state level. We - FReepers, and other dedicated conservatives - can and have ultimately fielded who becomes part of the GOP establishment. We need to OWN it like we did in the Reagan era, not destroy it through lack of attention to our God given orders to be 'watchmen on the wall' of who become our leaders.

No - it's not too late to shoulder your own responsibility - and earn your own right to say, 'I have fought the good fight, and WE WON.' There will be many opportunities in coming days to 'get involved' - don't let them slip by. Take advantage of the huge opportunities - you can, and will make a difference! It is quite fulfilling to debate hated RINO's FACE TO FACE - WIN when the vote is tallied - and see them denied a seat in party or public office!

Last but not least - we ALL need to get behind our Freepathon. Isn't it worth at least a dollar per day to you to come here, read, post, laugh and debate? Yes, I know, times are rough, and the 'cost of living' has gone way up. But, I'll bet you blow a lot on chocolate cake and ice cream or (insert your favorite deserts) - I, unfortunately, do! So let's all try to push this FReepathon toward an early completion - it might help save your waistline! LOL


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101 posted on 04/10/2012 7:37:02 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: ThomasPaine2000
I'm a born Texan - just sadly misplace in the liiiiiberal state of CA - for the time being.

I still tell everyone that I'm a Texan, though.

102 posted on 04/10/2012 7:37:13 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: RIghtwardHo; All

“While I appreciate your well thought out missive ... it is this for me. I utterly refuse to vote the enemy into our camp. That, of course, is Romney. I’ve said it many times here, but it is better to have Obama to fight against, than to have Romney and his ilk take over the GOP and eliminate us. While I won’t vote for Obama under threat of death, it is better to have him in the WH than Romney. IF Romney is elected, Conservatism dies. If (as will probably happened) Romney loses in a landslide, the idiot “wisdom” of the GOP elite will be exposed and we can build a Conservative GOP.

This is MUCH more than the 2012 elections. I will not help the GOP in this one. I will vote 3rd or, more likely, sit this one out now that Santorum has pulled out.”

I’m with you except for the part about “sitting out” the election. Your votes are needed in local and congressional districts. You can vote Constitution Party or some other conservative presidential candidate.

Don’t you dare squander your God given right to vote.

In reality, if Romney buys this nomination (Go NEWT) Romney would lose. In that case, this country goes bankrupt which is near inevitable anyway - the STATE and local governent in which you live will be of paramount importance in protecting your rights against the Saboteur and his rogue agencies.

You need to assure your state is stacked with conservative government like we have in Florida. If you live in a northern state like those Obama/Romney voting states - you need to move South to the conservative, God Fearing States of America.


103 posted on 04/10/2012 7:37:38 PM PDT by publius321
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To: RIghtwardHo

Obama will have more flexibility to put us all in camps and to continue destroying America with trillions in debt, more socialism,giving away our sovereignty to the UN, having the UN take our guns, taking away our missile defense and nukes, more illegals ,destroying our industries, giving our jobs to China, censoring the Internet with ACTA, and a thousand other crimes this monster Obama and his democrat/socialist media complex will do to us Americans.. I will never surrender to Obama nor to the democrat/socialist media complex.


104 posted on 04/10/2012 7:38:49 PM PDT by rurgan (Make all laws have an expiration date of 3 years. too many laws is the problem)
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To: Ingtar

If you’ve done the math on that, show us. Somehow I doubt you’ve finished analyzing all the state polls and delegate allocation rules today to account for a Rick drop-out.


105 posted on 04/10/2012 7:38:57 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Ron C.

We will NEVER vote for that liberal phoney, Mitt Romney at my house. At least, Obama has had opposition to his socialist agenda by most Republicans in Congress, however, with Romney as president, Republicans would guarantee the passage of that socialist agenda.


106 posted on 04/10/2012 7:40:48 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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107 posted on 04/10/2012 7:41:21 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: servantboy777

I haven’t voted yet either and it won’t be for Romney in the Primary.


108 posted on 04/10/2012 7:42:11 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Ron C.; Jim Robinson; RedMDer; DJ MacWoW; TheOldLady; trisham; The Cajun; MEG33; JoeProBono; ...

Thank you very much, RonC.

Like our Founder and Leader reminds us, “Rebellion starts from the bottom up!”

This is no time to surrender. It’s time to reload.

Several primary states have not voted.

Vote for Newt Gingrich and try for a brokered convention.

Pray non-stop and remember, we have yet to begin to fight!


109 posted on 04/10/2012 7:42:59 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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As I read through the statements expressed here, I could just weep. I have no idea who really did it, but from my perspective they succeeded. The division here will sink us all.

I read comments saying ‘I’m old and won’t be around to see the end’, well that’s very very brave and kind of you, others here have children and we are willing to continue fighting this nightmare until we are unable to ~

I have never held such disdain in my soul for another until barry destroyed my world. Everyday it’s another fire in the pan, more chaos, more deception, more class warfare crap, endless waste of our resources and slowly killing the heart of this country -

The absolute worst 3.5 years of my life, and it HAS TO END.


110 posted on 04/10/2012 7:44:00 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: Graewoulf
Since there are no known networks of childhood friends from Obama’s past, Obama was probably a member of a Marxist sleeper cell funded by wealthy men with a Marxist view of the World.

I don't think that there is any "probably" about it.
111 posted on 04/10/2012 7:44:35 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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112 posted on 04/10/2012 7:45:59 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

“A strong Green Party will split the leftist vote, giving the Republicans a better chance at squeaking by in future elections.

If your state is Blue, vote Green!”

Great thought process.


113 posted on 04/10/2012 7:46:08 PM PDT by publius321
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To: RIghtwardHo
Sorry RIghtwardHo I had 2 pages open and misposted a reply to another Freeper to you. I was going to reply to your courageous comment "I will vote 3rd or, more likely, sit this one out now that Santorum has pulled out."

Real conservatives sit it out!

114 posted on 04/10/2012 7:46:30 PM PDT by Once-Ler (There are two paths! One is America, the other is Occupy!)
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To: SoConPubbie

You’re not getting it, we’re not debating the ethics of this tactic, we’re debating the effectiveness. How does it help either send to have surrogates saying their candidate is too moderate when most likely the message they’re trying to get out is that their opponent is too extreme? That can’t work in today’s world when every ad will hit the internet and cable and won’t be limited to a specific region.


115 posted on 04/10/2012 7:47:10 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Once-Ler; RIghtwardHo
We have to vote for Congress. I may not vote for President but I will vote.
116 posted on 04/10/2012 7:49:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Ron C.
I like Newt but he wasn't even beating Santorum, and lost to Ron Paul at least once, didn't he? He has no money. I give him credit, he wants to stay and keep a more conservative face in the game, reminding Romney of what's at stake. But even he knows he's lost.
117 posted on 04/10/2012 7:51:13 PM PDT by MacMattico
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118 posted on 04/10/2012 7:52:54 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: JediJones
You’re not getting it, we’re not debating the ethics of this tactic, we’re debating the effectiveness. How does it help either send to have surrogates saying their candidate is too moderate when most likely the message they’re trying to get out is that their opponent is too extreme? That can’t work in today’s world when every ad will hit the internet and cable and won’t be limited to a specific region.

you're the one not getting it.

There are still large numbers of principled conservatives (not pragmatic in nature) who still do not know about the left-wing, Progressive Liberal record of Mitt Romney, and as the posts of articles prove, this is not hyperbole.

The rats know this, and we, as educated conservatives know this, a lot of people have not heard this yet, they will, because the DNC, Obama, the Media, and every other far-left organization knows it is effective in reducing turnout precisely because our side actually cares about ethics, principles, and morals.

Romney is through and he hasn't even gotten out of the gate.
119 posted on 04/10/2012 7:54:12 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: onyx
"This is no time to surrender. It’s time to reload."

THAT is the imperative! When things look bad, it is time to lock 'n load, and charge into the battle anew and even more determined!

God is on our side! We might lose a battle here and there, but we win the war!

120 posted on 04/10/2012 7:54:28 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: DJ MacWoW
“If Thomas Edison invented electric light today, Dan Rather would report it on CBS News as "candle making industry threatened".”

Hahaha! That's awesome! Never heard that before. Googling it but can't find when and where it was said. Just curious.

121 posted on 04/10/2012 7:56:52 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Well, actually I thought of a better answer for you. If they paint Romney as a flip-flopper, they’ll be able to show different quotes of his showing both liberal and conservative statements. So if they use that tactic, it could work.


122 posted on 04/10/2012 7:58:43 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: MacMattico
"But even he knows he's lost."

Well, there are very many that really appreciates what he is trying to do for conservatism - and that is, blunt the RINO surge. He will hang around as long as possible, just to give the liberal RINO's fits - and quite likely turn things a bit more toward conservatism.

123 posted on 04/10/2012 7:59:20 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: JediJones

I think that I got it from a quote site. Gingrich has some good ones! LOL


124 posted on 04/10/2012 8:02:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Flightdeck

I agree. I will do nothing to enable four more years of Obama. We must get the correct House and Senate in office in any case...if we do that and elect Romney, things will turn around because the new Congress will enure that Romney is given the legislation to fulfill his promises.

Whatever else Romney is, he is clearly a politician and this is the chance for the pinnacle of his career. He is not an ideolog and he will not throw away a chance at eight years by betraying those who get him into office and ensure he makes good on his promises. To do so would be political suicide.

So, as much as I had hoped another would win...and there’s still an outside chance for that...I’ll vote for Romney over the clear Marxist Obama

If Romney does go forward and win the nomination now, let’s see who his VP pick is too.

Romney was elected in a DNC dominated state, Mass. It is really more MassCare than RomneyCare IMHO. He had to run center...and I believe the plan would have been even worse without him there. Study his vetoes sometime...it tells you something about him too. Most of them were over ridden by an 85% controlled state house.

I do not like his changes on critical issues any more than anyone else...but there is something there a proper house and senate can use that would be orders of magnitude better than Obams.

This is a decision that every person must make and it is very personal and varied...but I honestly believe I must oppose Obama, even with Romney, for the sake of my eight grandkids and their future.


125 posted on 04/10/2012 8:03:06 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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126 posted on 04/10/2012 8:03:47 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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Can't you all hear Jim saying those very words?

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127 posted on 04/10/2012 8:04:20 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

You’re 100% correct. It’s much better to have a liberal than a traitor in office.


128 posted on 04/10/2012 8:05:09 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: NewJerseyJoe
I agree with your assessment.

I'm supremely disappointed that Romney will be our nominee, but I'm choosing to deal with reality. Reality as I see it: choosing to sit the presidential election out if Romney is the nominee will ensure Obama’s victory. Sorry, but as big a RINO as Romney might be, he doesn't hate the country. At least with Romney we have a chance to save the country; another four years of Obama will ensure our destruction!

Again, I'm choosing to deal with reality here...even if this reality isn't to my liking. I'll do what i have to do to save this country.

129 posted on 04/10/2012 8:08:59 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: JediJones

4/24 - the only state Newt could compete in is Pennsylvania. (If you think Gingrich has a chance in CT, DE, NY, and RI, you are overly hopeful.
100% of Santorum to Gingrich might give him 41 of the 231 that day.
Romney 663 + 190 = 853

5/8 Indiana (Newt + Santorum) 33. Romney 26 delegates = at least 12 of 27 for Romney = 865

North Carolina (proportional) Romney’s 31% about 15(for CDs) + 6 GOP-e = 886

West Virgina (Proportional) Romney’s estimated 30% gives him another 9 (with the 3 GOP-e) = 895

5/15 Oregon 14 each = 909

5/22 Kentucky 25 = 934
Arkansas 20 = 954

5/29 Texas (unclear if they can make this WTA or not) + 55 = 1009

6/5 California Romney + 103 = 1112
New Jersey Romney + 50 = 1162
New Mexico Romney +13 = 1175
South Dakota?? I am not sure on this one. ND went heavily Romney.

Montana and Utah = 66 more.

Before Wisconsin and from Santorum’s point of view, it was doable. Where there is not a poll to use, I used the state around to give an idea and rounded in Newt’s favor (except the GOP-e delegates who are unelected.)


130 posted on 04/10/2012 8:10:04 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: arderkrag

Asserting that a third party vote is not wasted does not erase the treachery you share with the left in an Obama victory.


131 posted on 04/10/2012 8:10:04 PM PDT by jimfree (In Nov 2012 my 11 y/o granddaughter will have more relevant executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Artcore

You are exactly where I am.


132 posted on 04/10/2012 8:10:12 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Graewoulf

Bump!


133 posted on 04/10/2012 8:11:03 PM PDT by blondee123 (Our country is headed for DICTATORSHIP! WAKE UP!)
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To: Graewoulf

Bump!


134 posted on 04/10/2012 8:11:18 PM PDT by blondee123 (Our country is headed for DICTATORSHIP! WAKE UP!)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
"it HAS TO END"

God willing, this lousy excuse for a president will be given his walking papers, if not by kicking his lousy butt out of office, then at least by taking control of Congress so that he can't pass a single thing he wants to.

135 posted on 04/10/2012 8:11:29 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: WPaCon; NewJerseyJoe
Liberals ARE traitors. Romney the socialist grows from the same tree as Obama the marxist. Romney has no core beliefs.

Top Romney adviser: Mitt will erase his conservative positions once he’s the nominee

136 posted on 04/10/2012 8:12:49 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: JediJones
Well, actually I thought of a better answer for you. If they paint Romney as a flip-flopper, they’ll be able to show different quotes of his showing both liberal and conservative statements. So if they use that tactic, it could work.

Listen, nothing is too low for the left-wing, they will try everything and they have been salivating at the prospect of having Mitt Romney as their punching bag as his record is a target-rich environment from which they have already stacked up a pile of ads ready to go if he is nominated.

He makes their job easy, the job of the re-election of Obama.
137 posted on 04/10/2012 8:15:44 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: RIghtwardHo

2012 is going to be an exact repeat of 2008’s election results, because of the shell-game the Ruling Class has foisted on We The People.

Like the old Soviet Union, we are now having our candidates selected for us by the burgeoning oligarchy running the show. Conservatism is clearly an enemy of these people, and like RIghtwardHo - I will be damned to again play their shell game by their rules again. We’re all being duped and deceiving ourselves that Romney is a choice that is better than Obama. Romney is a noose for Conservatism in America every bit as the noose Obama is for America.

Conservatives have no party - the GOP has discarded us and only uses us to get elected, whereupon they bash us the first chance they get and go along with the enemy. I’m done being the battered wife voter.

If history is any teacher, then we have to understand two things: voting in this election is not going to stop the Marxist Tyrant; the hour is later than most are willing to admit.

Secondly: only God can spare us our earned fate now. Our society has been allowed to become wicked and leavened. Why should God spare us what this people have chosen for themselves when His own people refuse to do 2 Chronicles 7:14? If you want to save the country and what is left of our liberty - THAT is the only solution that can save us now.


138 posted on 04/10/2012 8:16:12 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Romney is another obama on social issues and spending and the way he went about this nomination is something I or my family or most I know down here will never forget.

He’s nothing but a north east liberal and sadly from what I have seen, talked to and met that most north east so called republicans are like him.

Hell even when those so called republicans come down here they talk and have the same views socially and sort of fiscally as the Dems


139 posted on 04/10/2012 8:18:42 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Romney has no core beliefs.

I'd rather have a president who believes in nothing than one who believes in doing everything to destroy America and Christian civilization.

Besides, how can Romney be a socialist and have no core beliefs? If he is a socialist, then that's a core belief of his.

140 posted on 04/10/2012 8:21:00 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: MattinNJ

“If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.” - Alexander Hamilton


141 posted on 04/10/2012 8:21:23 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Texas Fossil
Half the party has yet to vote on the matter.

Mitt can be relegated to history's backwaters yet.

142 posted on 04/10/2012 8:21:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jimfree; arderkrag
Asserting that a third party vote is not wasted does not erase the treachery you share with the left in an Obama victory.

Not only is your assertion a bald-faced lie, your actions, by aiding and abetting a lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal like Mitt Romney to gain the nomination to an election he can't win precisely because of his lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal record is the true test of treachery to conservative principles.
143 posted on 04/10/2012 8:22:01 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: WPaCon; DJ MacWoW
Besides, how can Romney be a socialist and have no core beliefs? If he is a socialist, then that's a core belief of his.

A distinction without difference.
144 posted on 04/10/2012 8:23:25 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: GlockThe Vote
GTV:

In full disclosure, I held the same “I'll never vote for the RINO Romney” sentiments that many are still holding to. I think people saw all the hard work that the Tea Parties did for our win in 2012 go down the drain with the GOPE shoving yet another RINO down our throats. I understand the bitterness and disgust with having to once again eat another SH*T sandwich and hold our noses. However, reality is what it is. To help me deal with this reality, I remind myself that whatever Romney is, he's not Marxist, and he doesn't hate the country. In my choice to cling to the reality of the situation we're facing; holding these views of Romney will enable me to vote for him if need be. Is this the ideal situation, or the way i wanted things to be? Hell no! But again, I'm choosing to deal with reality...not what I want.

Four more years of Obama and our country is finished...with Romney, at least we have a fighting chance, IMHO.

145 posted on 04/10/2012 8:23:48 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: JediJones; TBP
Given a chance to vote for Romney in his pristine form ~ with no competition but a madman, the voters in Virginia (no party registration and all primaries are open) stayed home in record numbers.

Romney simply isn't a guy anyone wants to vote for or support.

He's far from inevitable.

146 posted on 04/10/2012 8:25:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: WPaCon
Romney's accomplishments as Governor were all socialist. He wants to be President so now he's a Republican. He's a liar.

You think that he believes in "christian" civilization? Do you know anything about Mormons? You'd better find out.

147 posted on 04/10/2012 8:25:48 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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148 posted on 04/10/2012 8:25:48 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: rogue yam

think this is where you are from.

From the liberal areas like the north east and the west coast then Romney is no problem, he is a liberal on many matters like homo’s planned parenthood etc, where as here in the south and the midwest where the conservative base is then we see things very much differently.

I’ve met many from the north east and the west coast who think of themselves republicans but then they come out with the same crap of “well I know a homo he is nice” etc

Here in the south etc we actually look at them as another liberal who only cares about themselves.

As for evangelicals, are you kidding me, some of them want open borders etc because they think Jesus would.

Romney is another liberal plain and simple


149 posted on 04/10/2012 8:27:22 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: JediJones

Or you could vote for your “favorite son.”


150 posted on 04/10/2012 8:28:39 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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