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Romney is lucky his rival was Santorum, not Palin
The Washington Examiner ^ | April 10, 2012 | Philip Klein, Senior Editorial Writer

Posted on 04/10/2012 11:48:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

As he approaches the task of uniting the Republican party ahead of his all but official general election campaign, Mitt Romney will benefit from the same reality that's worked to his favor the entire race -- the composition of the Republican field. Specifically, Romney is fortunate that he had to beat out Rick Santorum to claim the nomination rather than Sarah Palin.

When Romney decided to seek the presidency for the second time, his moderate to liberal record in Massachusetts was bound to trigger a challenge from the right and set up a showdown, framed in shorthand, as the establishment of the party versus the conservative base. Had Palin been in the race as the conservative alternative, it would have been very difficult for Romney to attack her given the passionate following she has among many conservatives, because he wouldn't want to risk alienating them. Even if he had ultimately triumphed after a brutal primary fight, a lot of her loyal supporters would have found it difficult to bury the hatchet for the general election.

By contrast, Santorum came into the race with a very small following and was polling in the low single digits early on. Only when a number of other hopefuls fizzled did he emerge as the conservative alternative to Romney. Don't get me wrong, as I wrote earlier, I think Santorum raised his profile over the course of the race and proved to be a tenacious campaigner. But the point is that Santorum's support was as much about him being a vehicle for those who wanted to stop Romney than it was about a groundswell of support for him personally. His defeat is a disappointment to his supporters, no doubt, but less likely to sting as badly for as many people as a Palin defeat would have. Now that the primary is over, it will be a lot easier for Santorum voters to get behind Romney in the general election than it would have been for Palin given her built in fan base.


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Exactly.
1 posted on 04/10/2012 11:48:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

GO NEWT!

2 posted on 04/10/2012 11:50:25 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Now that the primary is over, it will be a lot easier for Santorum voters to get behind Romney in the general election than it would have been for Palin given her built in fan base.”

How is that possible? It is a MORTAL SIN on your soul to
vote for a pro-abortion candidate.


3 posted on 04/10/2012 11:56:07 PM PDT by stpio
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Very true.


4 posted on 04/10/2012 11:57:17 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Romney is lucky his rival was Santorum, not Palin

Really? I disagree totally. Rick did a solid job challenging Milt, but you know what? We will never know who's right. Only one of these two stood up and took Romney on.

5 posted on 04/10/2012 11:57:34 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: stpio

Watch out for people who signed up recently to argue the pro abort thingy


6 posted on 04/11/2012 12:10:44 AM PDT by DISCO
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rick really left the conservatives out to dry.

He will be on Mitt's team to clear up his campaign debt

and to have his clients from KStreet. He couldn’t even fight in PA. Wake up people, he helped Mitt. He may endorse him so be prepared.

7 posted on 04/11/2012 12:25:33 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Backstabber Romney attacked Gov. Palin for OBAMA in 2008.

The RNME was behind the attacks and THEY LOVE ROMNEY FOR IT.

FLASHBACK:

The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++4 to 10 pts
in some polls, days prior to Election 2008.
So rather than helping the GOP, Romney and
TeamROMNEY and the RNME (Republican National Media Establishment)
decided …to attack Gov. Palin to throw Election2008.

Romney, and the Van der Sloot RNME RINOs for Obama in 2008

Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.


"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



8 posted on 04/11/2012 12:30:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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Re: Romney Is Lucky

I disagree.

I reluctantly voted for McCain/Palin in 2008.

Soon after, Palin resigned as Governor.

Then she put on a three year political tease - “Maybe I'll run, maybe I won't.”

I saw almost no improvement in Palin’s national leadership skills during that period.

I think Santorum is clearly a better candidate than Palin.

He gave Romney a much tougher fight than Palin would have.

9 posted on 04/11/2012 1:29:12 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Fax me some of that stuff you’re smokin’, will ya?


10 posted on 04/11/2012 1:30:12 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin is STILL my candidate.

I’ll be taking a pen with me to vote.


11 posted on 04/11/2012 1:37:36 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My template for political success is Margaret Thatcher.

Go back and look at Thatcher's early career.

Her clothing was ridiculous, her hair was ridiculous, her speaking voice was ridiculous, and her debating skills were ridiculous.

Over a period of years she utterly transformed herself.

Thatcher had a level of self-discipline and Conservative passion that Palin can only dream about.

12 posted on 04/11/2012 1:47:46 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
My template for political success is Margaret Thatcher. Go back and look at Thatcher's early career.

No.

Palin doesn't need to change a thing...anyone who doesn't know that might as well be a democrat.

13 posted on 04/11/2012 1:54:40 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: zeestephen
Different times, different political systems (parliamentary vs. republican democracy, different issues, etc. It's like comparing Huey Long to Mr. Obama or Mohammad Ali to a modern mixed martial arts fighter. Both Lady Thatcher and Governor Palin are self-made women. Both are strong conservative figures. Your animus towards Gov. Palin is blatantly obvious.
14 posted on 04/11/2012 1:55:59 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Your animus towards Gov. Palin is blatantly obvious.”

No.

My disappointment in Gov. Palin is blatantly obvious.

15 posted on 04/11/2012 2:10:11 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think of it that the rest of us are unlucky that Romney's rival was Santorum and not Palin.

Anyway, all this armchair quarterbacking does no good because Palin did not enter the race. So I am going to take the dog for a walk and listen to my iPod before I go to work.

16 posted on 04/11/2012 2:12:02 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 31 days away from outliving Phil Hartman)
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To: papertyger
Re: “Palin doesn't need to change a thing.”

Really?

In that case why did she not run for president?

Is it a character issue?

Conservative Americans have never faced a more perilous point in history.

Yet, your candidate, who doesn't need to change a thing, can't be bothered to run for office?

17 posted on 04/11/2012 2:16:12 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Fred Nerks; Beckwith
I will never vote for Mitt Romney. Let the GOP suffer the wages of their nefarious , elitist work.

Four more years of Obama? Thats what you get even if Mitt Romney is elected president.

They way I see it, its better to have Obama, and at least you have the real national socialist, liberal fascist target. Romney is just a foil for the liberal fascist movement of Obama.

The GOP had the opportunity to invite a real adversary to Obama's nationalist socialism. Instead the RINO GOPers stuck their heads in the sand, and decided to promote the myth that Obama is not UnAmerica, and NOT unqualified pursuant to Article II of the consitution , and NOT a liberal fascist. Doom on them.

The GOP is now sounding its own death nell as a party.Many conservatives will vote for Obama just out of spite, and the GOP deserves it for what they have done.Welcome to the Nationalist Socialist Republic of the United States of America as it morphs into a dictatorship.

Thank you Rick Santorum, and thank you Newt Gingrich for trying.Watch the migration of the wealthy and their capital off shore.Watch our nation turn into something like Zimbabwe, under the tender mercies of the US version of Robert Mugabe.

18 posted on 04/11/2012 2:19:35 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: zeestephen
So she had an obligation to run in 2012, even after suffering what was probably the worst abuse ever leveled at a public figure in the modern era, just to satisfy you? Seriously?
19 posted on 04/11/2012 2:20:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Candor7

Rhodesia/Zimbabwe and South Africa were and are majority black nations. The United States is majority white, with 12% being black. Without the Army firmly in his corner, how does Mr. Obama become our dictator?


20 posted on 04/11/2012 2:25:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Candor7

“Four more years of Obama? That’s what you get even if Mitt Romney is elected president.”

Well, we might just get EIGHT more years. And of course if Mitt gets elected, obviously the only Republicans that can get elected are the liberal ones, so that is who will run after Mitt is out. I’m doubtful that he can win anyway.


21 posted on 04/11/2012 2:26:41 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Re: “So she had an obligation to run in 2012?”

You’re damn right, she did.

And not “to satisfy” me.

If she was animated by Conservative principles, the idea of NOT running for president would never have entered her mind.

And you care - and she cares - about abuse?

Abuse is personal.

Conservatism is a principle.

If you are man or woman of principle, you don’t care about abuse.

Instead, you improve your political skills every day.

And you draw your energy and your strength from the principles that you passionately believe in.

Bottom line....

Your candidate didn’t care enough about her political principles to even run for the GOP nomination.


22 posted on 04/11/2012 2:36:38 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Still no arrests and little interest in arson at Sarah Palin’s church, as reopening nears
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/01/sarah-palin-a-1.html


23 posted on 04/11/2012 2:39:53 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: stpio
“Now that the primary is over, it will be a lot easier for Santorum voters to get behind Romney in the general election than it would have been for Palin given her built in fan base.”

How is that possible? It is a MORTAL SIN on your soul to vote for a pro-abortion candidate.

Lets see, you have on the one hand a candidate who was pro-choice and claims to have had a moral epiphany, and promises he is now pro-life. His sincerity is questionable, but there are also political reasons for him to keep his promises.

OTOH, you have a candidate who voted to allow doctors to kill babies who survive abortion attempts, and has never changed his mind about any of it. He will have no political reasons to change.

One or the other will be president for the next four years. It shouldn't be a tough choice.

24 posted on 04/11/2012 2:42:17 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: zeestephen

Say what you will: I don’t play rigged games, and I don’t believe Gov. Palin does either.

She still gets my vote.


25 posted on 04/11/2012 2:44:11 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Tidbit: "Romney loyalists, including 11 members of his family, several key fundraisers, his campaign aides and employees of the private-equity firm he helped create, donated more than $330,000 to Pawlenty since Aug. 14 when he withdrew from the race after a third-place finish in Iowa's straw poll, according to the USA TODAY analysis. The former Minnesota governor endorsed Romney less than a month later." Romney backers help Pawlenty erase campaign debt
26 posted on 04/11/2012 2:45:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: zeestephen

Imagine if the presidential candidate was always a member of his party’s congressional leadership; a parliamentary system is kind of like that. It would be almost impossible for a regional candidate with only a few years’ experience to appear out of nowhere in a national election.

Thatcher rose through the ranks, and necessarily had time to develop both her platform and her public image before she emerged as a national candidate. She was an MP for 15 years before becoming party leader, 20 before becoming Prime Minister.


27 posted on 04/11/2012 2:45:33 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Candor7

I’d rather fight, than switch.....


28 posted on 04/11/2012 2:48:55 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually Romney’s rivals were NEWT and Santorum. Palin decided not to run. Maybe she understood that this was Romney’s turn. Nobody knows how well she would have done.

People though Perry would do well, but he didn’t.


29 posted on 04/11/2012 2:50:12 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Hugin

“Lets see, you have on the one hand a candidate who was pro-choice and claims to have had a moral epiphany, and promises he is now pro-life. His sincerity is questionable, but there are also political reasons for him to keep his promises.”

~ ~ ~

Hugin,

“Political reasons”

Yes, this is true, the basis for everything he’s ever done. Four times the switch from a pro-abort to being for life depending on the electorate.

Right now his record is that of a pro-abort, he signed
Romneycare.

What about the Mormon cult? Romney has no “grace” to see he needs God’s help.


30 posted on 04/11/2012 2:57:43 AM PDT by stpio
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To: Christie at the beach
Wake up people, he helped Mitt. He may endorse him so be prepared.

If Santorum endorses Romney now, he might as well go ahead and start making Viagra commercials. He'll be through in politics. As usual, the RiNOs' best liars and closer con-men are whispering poison in Santorum's ear, counseling him that the policy of wisdom .... is to destroy himself for their added convenience.

Santorum, in reality, needs to hold on to his delegates until the convention and give Newt and Ron Paul a chance to hold off Willard. If there is still another warm body on the ballot on May 29, no way in HELL that that RiNO poltroon is getting Texas's 55 delegates. Put that in the bank, kemos sabe.

31 posted on 04/11/2012 3:01:46 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: papertyger
She still gets my vote.

Good man. Me, too.

32 posted on 04/11/2012 3:03:55 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: dforest
Maybe she understood that this was Romney’s turn.

Maybe she understood that the voice on the phone knew what he was talking about, and that his promises would come true if she declared.

33 posted on 04/11/2012 3:07:38 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: papertyger
Re: “She still gets my vote.”

If Sarah Palin won the GOP nomination she would get my vote, too.

34 posted on 04/11/2012 3:15:21 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

how does Mr. Obama become our dictator?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Obama has the support of white America, and he will punish them terribly before he is done.


35 posted on 04/11/2012 3:25:00 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Huh? Isn’t she known as the “quitter”? Now Santorum is one too.

GO NEWT !


36 posted on 04/11/2012 3:43:53 AM PDT by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: zeestephen

I’m with you.

I didn’t care about Sarah quitting as gov, but the two-year long “tease” threw up all sorts of red flags. I don’t trust her now.


37 posted on 04/11/2012 3:46:10 AM PDT by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: dforest

Palin decided not to run. Maybe she understood that this was Romney’s turn


Oh, she took one for the team?

blleeech!


38 posted on 04/11/2012 3:48:32 AM PDT by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Reagan69

I don’t think it means that at all. It means that she has a lot of things she would rather do than run for any office. She has even insinuated that.

She seems content with doing other things.


39 posted on 04/11/2012 3:53:15 AM PDT by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“[Palin] had an obligation to run in 2012”

Palin was wise not to run this time around. The media is still too full of vociferous Palin bashers. Their noise would make it impossible for the Republican team to make their case against Obama.


40 posted on 04/11/2012 4:58:29 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well for me the November Election comes down to the Congressional races (where it should have been all along). There is NOT a micron of difference between CZAR B.O. and NOT Romney!

He sat on the sidelines while others were battling CZAR B.O. on every one of the Democrap Socialist initiatives. He was waiting his turn for the sacrificial altar of LIBERAL politics!
41 posted on 04/11/2012 4:59:29 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well for me the November Election comes down to the Congressional races (where it should have been all along). There is NOT a micron of difference between CZAR B.O. and NOT Romney!

He sat on the sidelines while others were battling CZAR B.O. on every one of the Democrap Socialist initiatives. He was waiting his turn for the sacrificial altar of LIBERAL politics!
42 posted on 04/11/2012 4:59:34 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: zeestephen
I can't see how Santorum could run against Romney when four years ago he said,

Has Romney changed in the past four years. I think not.

43 posted on 04/11/2012 5:09:31 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't go wobbly on me now Newt. You're our only hope.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

“Only one of these two stood up and took Romney on.”

No he didn’t. He just stood down, four months before the convention.


44 posted on 04/11/2012 5:13:00 AM PDT by ngat
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To: lentulusgracchus

“... no way ... that that RiNO poltroon is getting Texas’s 55 delegates.”

Make that 155 delegates.


45 posted on 04/11/2012 5:17:51 AM PDT by ngat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
His defeat is a disappointment to his supporters, no doubt, but less likely to sting as badly for as many people as a Palin defeat would have.

"That boy is our last hope."
"No. There is another."

46 posted on 04/11/2012 5:35:16 AM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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To: ngat
Thanx for the correction. I'd noticed the erratum a little while ago, but was doing something else. Thanx for putting that up there.

The Dems bent over backwards -- whose idea was it? -- to keep Texas tied up in court. We still haven't yet received our new voter cards with the redrawn districts. This is using the Voting Rights Act to suppress voting by a whole State of the Union.

47 posted on 04/11/2012 5:45:54 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus; dforest
Maybe she understood that the voice on the phone knew what he was talking about, and that his promises would come true if she declared.

Correct. I am amazed, and appalled, at just how few people actually grasp the brutal reality of the power that was brought to bear to prevent Palin from running.

48 posted on 04/11/2012 6:31:24 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Romney is disgusting.

But conservatives did not have a solid, viable alternative.

Those are sad facts.

We can whine all we want, but the real problem is locating, motivating, supporting and working for a nominatable conservative.

Sadly, it appears “none of the above” were sufficiently strong conservatives to beat the Socialist Romney.

Rats.

Well, there are things to do. Go support conservatives where you can find them.

Let Romney rot as a warning.

Until we stop supporting Socialists who happen to have an (R) after their name, we’ll get more of the same.


49 posted on 04/11/2012 7:39:58 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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To: ngat
No he didn’t. He just stood down, four months before the convention.

LOL. You need to first stand up and run before you can step down. The only person I read Palin was standing up to was Katie Couric in some network morning program showdown.

50 posted on 04/11/2012 8:37:45 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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