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The Jury Will Acquit George Zimmerman
04/11/12

Posted on 04/11/2012 9:11:55 AM PDT by AtlasStalled

I’m highly doubtful whether Zimmerman can get a fair trial even if he is charged, and any time the media gets itself into a frenzy over a case the defendant is acquitted: OJ Simpson, Michael Jackson, Casey Anthony, etc. I think juries understand that once the media gets involved the only fair thing to do is acquit.

Indeed, look at how the media has unfairly mangled the facts so far in the Zimmerman case.

First the media said Zimmerman was white, and it turns out he’s actually Hispanic.

Then the news media edited the 911 call to make it falsely appear that Zimmerman was equating being black with being suspicious, and it turns out it was the 911 dispatcher simply asking Zimmerman for the race of Martin.

Then the media said Zimmerman used a racial slur on the call but enhanced play of the recording shows he used the word “cold” and not another word.

Finally the media said Zimmerman had no head wound but once the images from his police station visit were enhanced there is a gash shown.

I think it’s highly unlikely that Zimmerman can be convicted given the media circus that has ensued to date, and given how much reporting about Zimmerman has been wrong I only wonder about how more is being falsely presented in the unfair bid by some to railroad Zimmerman.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: trayvonmartin; vanity

1 posted on 04/11/2012 9:11:58 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

From the evidence produced so far, there is not going to be a jury—because there won’t be a need for a trial.


2 posted on 04/11/2012 9:14:41 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

After the State presents the evidence ( I have filtered) his Attorney will make a motion that the State has not produced enough evidence to continue and charges dismissed.


3 posted on 04/11/2012 9:17:25 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: SoFloFreeper

That threat of “pandemonium” from the Martin’s lawyer
was very reminiscient of 0bama’s threat to the USSC.

Thug minds think alike.


4 posted on 04/11/2012 9:17:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“From the evidence produced so far, there is not going to be a jury—because there won’t be a need for a trial.”

You’re exactly right....but who will have the courage in the media to present the truth to the public so as to stop the rioting before it begins?


5 posted on 04/11/2012 9:20:24 AM PDT by FryingPan101
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To: SoFloFreeper

I dunno, the jury pool was polluted big time. I know I was fooled early on.


6 posted on 04/11/2012 9:22:19 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: Obama sez: "Nice little Supreme Court you got here. Shame if anything were to happen to it.")
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To: AtlasStalled

First the media said Zimmerman was white, and it turns out he’s actually Hispanic.

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Wrong. Zimmerman is to Hispanics as Obama is to whites.

Just because there was some heritage does not mean Zimmerman thought of himself - or even acted - as Hispanic.

LaRaza and other hispanic groups threw Z under the bus last month.


7 posted on 04/11/2012 9:22:19 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
"From the evidence produced so far, there is not going to be a jury—because there won’t be a need for a trial."

On state level charges. Eric Holder, however, will see to it that federal charges will be brought in the matter. Zimmerman skedaddled, and his attorneys have backed away, in anticipation of the Special Investigator's announcement Friday evening. All would be well advised to prepare for major ugliness this weekend, when the announcement comes: no arrest or prosecution warranted.
8 posted on 04/11/2012 9:26:24 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: AtlasStalled
Eric Holder is primed to jump if Florida doesn't burn Zimmerman at the stake. Zimmerman really needs to keep running, he doesn't have a chance at justice.

He may be guilty of bad judgement but no more than that.

9 posted on 04/11/2012 9:26:52 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: AtlasStalled

They only need to arrest him, then have him killed in jail. Or better yet: he will ‘commit suicide’.


10 posted on 04/11/2012 9:29:04 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: PowderMonkey

We are at red flag level here, let it rip!


11 posted on 04/11/2012 9:30:19 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“First the media said Zimmerman was white, and it turns out he’s actually Hispanic.”

Just wondering: How did “Hispanic” become a race? It does not even describe a specific national cultural identity. Central American natives of “Indian” stock, for want of a better term, having somehow acquired Spanish surnames absent any bloodline link to Spain, are placed within the group called Hispanic.


12 posted on 04/11/2012 9:33:58 AM PDT by Elsiejay (in)
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To: PowderMonkey

Good point.


13 posted on 04/11/2012 9:38:48 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: AtlasStalled

Where’s the link and source to this news article?


14 posted on 04/11/2012 9:38:48 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come.)
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To: AtlasStalled

If he is charged, there will be a prelimenary hearing. The judge could end it here by not going to trial.


15 posted on 04/11/2012 9:38:52 AM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: AtlasStalled

The facts have never gotten in the way of a pre-planned riot.


16 posted on 04/11/2012 9:39:08 AM PDT by Pecos (O.K., joke's over. Time to bring back the Constitution.)
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To: Elsiejay
Just wondering: How did “Hispanic” become a race?

Nixon added it to the census in 1970.

-PJ

17 posted on 04/11/2012 9:40:49 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: AtlasStalled

The msg so far is bring him to trial or you’ll have riots across the country. If they bring charges it will shift to if he’s not found guilty you’ll have riots. If he’s not found guilty the Feds will also try him after the riots to keep from having more riots. The idea that riots will occur (MSM will show what happened after Simi Valley verdict and do so repeatedly) will be in the jury’s mind. It’s very tough to vote not guilty when the result is going to be riots like the ones in LA.


18 posted on 04/11/2012 9:42:04 AM PDT by airedale
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To: agere_contra

We’re on the same page. Zimmerman is a “dead man walking” from now on, and needs to disappear.


19 posted on 04/11/2012 9:42:27 AM PDT by kiltie65 (ui)
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To: Elsiejay

Zimmerman is as white as Obama is white but we would not call Obama a white African American would we?


20 posted on 04/11/2012 9:42:55 AM PDT by vicar7 ("Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers" Sarah Palin)
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To: Elsiejay
"Just wondering: How did “Hispanic” become a race?"

Thank the federal government for that. One of my associates is labeled "Hispanic" because he's originally from Uruguay. His parents immigrated there from Italy. He's proudly Italian. Not a drop of Hispanic blood in him. Federal regs allow his children to be labeled "Hispanic" even though they have no connection to Uruguay.
21 posted on 04/11/2012 9:48:03 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: AtlasStalled

In the last LA riots, some of our extended family sat at the home of our uncle, because he owned a gun.

They all sat in one of distant bedrooms and uncle sat in front of the door, holding loaded revolver.

Today these same relatives still unprepared, voting for BO, cursing Right Wingers.

The uncle died awhile ago. He owned a gun because he remembered SS breaking down doors in Poland back in 40’s.

It may take few “victims” to wise up, then again, they’ll all will gather at station to board the train meekly.


22 posted on 04/11/2012 9:50:06 AM PDT by trotskylvalia (where nose meets the grindstone)
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To: MrB

rioters should be sternly suppressed. Lethally if need be.


23 posted on 04/11/2012 9:50:46 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: AtlasStalled
First the media said Zimmerman was white, and it turns out he’s actually Hispanic.

Very loosely white and Hispanic due mainly to language. He's half Peruvian who are mostly descendants of the ancient Incas or a mix of white and Inca.

24 posted on 04/11/2012 10:06:01 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: MrB

Pandemonium = rioting and looting.


25 posted on 04/11/2012 10:07:37 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: AtlasStalled

Give you book that if a state jury acquits Zimmerman, or if the state prosecutor declines to prosecute, the Feds will step in and try him on a violation of the kid’s civil rights. you know. One of Holder’s people. What Obozo’s son would have looked like.


26 posted on 04/11/2012 10:14:24 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The HLN channel has been absolutely shameless in lynching Zimmerman. Dr Drew has shown himself to be a frigging idiot over this case but not to be undone by the two shrews Drace and Velez.


27 posted on 04/11/2012 10:27:33 AM PDT by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: PowderMonkey

Look for police SWAT forces to step in and end any riots once begun or before they begin.


28 posted on 04/11/2012 10:36:35 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Just because there was some heritage does not mean Zimmerman thought of himself - or even acted - as Hispanic.

How do Hispanic people act. I know lots of people of Mexican heritage, including many Mexican citizens, a couple of Cubans and at least one Puerto Rican. I see no common behavior, they don't even have the same accents, in English or Spanish. Zimmerman's mother is Peruvian, from the looks of him, likely with a lot of Andean Indian ancestry, if not nearly pure. Hispanic is a term made up by Nixon administration. Latino might mean more, but the same comments apply. The only thing really share is the Spanish language, and in most cases some American Indian ancestry. Although one of the Cuban guys, a naturalized citizen who retired as full Colonel in the USAF, his last name is Irish. I also know a Mexican, who speaks with an upper class Mexico City accent, or so I'm told, whose ancestry is 1/2 Swedish, the other half gringo from Ohio. His name is Sven. Both he and his parents were born in Mexico. Shocked the daylights out of a another Mexican friend, from farther south, who herself has little to no Indio ancestry and has red hair.

29 posted on 04/11/2012 10:40:35 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: chesley

Would not be surprised if there will be a call for FL state police SWAT teams to take care of any possible rioting.


30 posted on 04/11/2012 10:41:18 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: airedale

But unlike LA, being in the American south where there is a LOT of gun owners and also having a no-nonsense state police system, any possible riots are NOT going to last long or will not start.


31 posted on 04/11/2012 10:48:26 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: AtlasStalled

I disagree, this reminds me the most of the trials of the police officers in the Rodney King case. While they were initially acquitted by a jury, the Feds swooped in and tried them again to make sure that the angry minorities in Los Angeles got the conviction they wanted. It was truly disgusting, and destroyed my faith in justice.


32 posted on 04/11/2012 10:50:33 AM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Biggirl
"Look for police SWAT forces to step in and end any riots once begun or before they begin."

I hope you're right. Our police have openly said they plan on simply cordoning off the affected area, and allowing the "disturbance" to continue unabated and localized until it burns itself out. That way, the department minimizes injuries, damage, and civil suits. 9-1-1 will be "unavailable." Everybody and everything inside the cordon is SOL.
33 posted on 04/11/2012 10:52:39 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: AtlasStalled

Since the old msm ruined any chances for a fair trail, I doubt there will be even charges at all will be brought up.


34 posted on 04/11/2012 10:53:54 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: AtlasStalled

OJ had a jury trial and there couldn’t have been 12 other more moronic individuals gathered in one place... my bad, there’s Congress.


35 posted on 04/11/2012 10:54:34 AM PDT by bgill
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To: PowderMonkey

“Thank the federal government for that . . ..”

If only we could whip the federal government back into its cage, and become its master. Perhaps it could become a useful partner.


36 posted on 04/11/2012 10:55:16 AM PDT by Elsiejay (in)
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To: PowderMonkey

Got to remember that this is not LA, but FL, a much more conservative state.


37 posted on 04/11/2012 10:56:44 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: PowderMonkey

“Thank the federal government for that . . ..”

If only we could whip the federal government back into its cage, and become its master. Perhaps it could become a useful partner.


38 posted on 04/11/2012 10:57:10 AM PDT by Elsiejay (in)
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To: AtlasStalled
From the law as written, the prosecution would have the burden of proof to show beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman did NOT act in self-defense.

I doubt they can do that.

Federal prosecution would be another story.

Remember the LA Riots? They started when the cops in the Rodney King incident were found not guilty. The cops were then indicted under federal law, and the "double jeopardy" aspects were ignored.

39 posted on 04/11/2012 10:58:39 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: AtlasStalled

This is “News”?? I don’t think vanities are news.


40 posted on 04/11/2012 11:02:58 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Fed goverment out of control.


41 posted on 04/11/2012 11:03:06 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

On voter registration forms, George Zimmerman identified himself as Hispanic


42 posted on 04/11/2012 11:07:46 AM PDT by fml
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To: PowderMonkey
Our police have openly said they plan on simply cordoning off the affected area, and allowing the "disturbance" to continue unabated and localized until it burns itself out. That way, the department minimizes injuries, damage, and civil suits. 9-1-1 will be "unavailable." Everybody and everything inside the cordon is SOL.

I notice that you are in Virginia. In Virginia you would be in a worse position over having to defend yourself in a riot situation than if you were in Florida (FL/VA laws compared).

In Florida (or PA which has similar stand-your-ground laws), you are allowed greater discretion to use deadly force to resist a felony. I could just imagine the police saying "If a riot begins, we will pull out. We will not investigate any shootings of rioters. Ever."

43 posted on 04/11/2012 11:11:50 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Biggirl
Would not be surprised if there will be a call for FL state police SWAT teams to take care of any possible rioting

Nah. That would be racist.

44 posted on 04/11/2012 12:00:15 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: chesley

Would not surprise me if what say comes true. FL is not CA and while there are liberals, there are many conservatives as well, some who do own arms.


45 posted on 04/11/2012 12:54:12 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: chesley

Would not surprise me if what I do say comes true. FL is not CA and while there are liberals, there are many conservatives as well, some who do own arms.


46 posted on 04/11/2012 12:54:38 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

You might be right. Eventually, the government will be forced to act in one of these situations. Perhaps this will be the one.


47 posted on 04/11/2012 1:04:46 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: AtlasStalled

The variable that worries me the most is the New Black Panthers. Their bounty on Zimmerman’s head is troubling, to say the least. Some knucklehead MUST be thinking about that $10,000 prize!

What happens if somebody finds Zimmerman beforehand, for example by tracing his phone calls? Would he face a summary execution (lynching) or just a beating? The “wanted poster” says “dead or alive” and I’ll bet somebody is thinking about the “dead” part first.

Would they try to take Zimmerman out with a sniper, at the courthouse? Zimmerman will need to appear in court, so there is no chance he can stay hidden for long. Does Zimmerman have the sense to ask for a ride to court in an armored SWAT vehicle? Will they go out of state to pick him up?

And what will the JustUs Department do if Zimmerman gets killed before the trial? I expect an apology would be out of the question ...


48 posted on 04/11/2012 1:50:30 PM PDT by DNME (Paging SARAH PALIN! Please pick up any white courtesy phone.)
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To: DNME

If Mr. Zimmerman can even be found at all, because he has fled the country.


49 posted on 04/11/2012 2:09:30 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

It would just be bloody and spread to other states. But that parts moot since they have indicted him on second degree murder. The next set of threats will be convict him or else.


50 posted on 04/11/2012 3:52:40 PM PDT by airedale
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