Skip to comments.Why I Called George Zimmerman a Murderer, and Why I Was Wrong
Posted on 04/11/2012 9:46:20 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
On March 17, I thought I had it all figured out. I wrote a post  on my blog in which I pronounced Americas most famous neighborhood watch captain guilty:
(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...
Good points. Though I think you’re off about when Zimmerman left his car. My understanding is that he was still on the phone with the dispatcher for part of the time he was on foot chasing Martin.
I too fell for the original story, in pretty much the same way you did.
This is kind of scary, because without the internet little of this countervailing info would have come out, and I would still believe the MSM story.
Had you heard that Z had led a public campaign to get two of the cops who investigated him punished in a case involving the beating of a homeless black man? At the very least, this would mean they had little reason to like him or cut him any slack.
I’m not Bob Owens, I didn’t write the article.
I think a lot of people owe Zimmerman an apology at the very least, and given that most journalists don’t have such integrity I hope that when this mess is over Zimmerman retains a good lawyer and starts suing the lamestream press one after the other for defamation. I hope he starts with NBC which edited the 911 call to make Zimmerman sound racist and CNN that must have said 100 times “it sounds like he’s saying f****** c***”
Holder will make you right again. Zimmerman will be found guilty of a race related civil rights violation. Zimmerman should have just laid there and died. Racist a$$hole for wanting to live
Have you ever heard Al or Jesse admit they made a mistake or apologize? It ain’t gonna happen!
Your blog entry is the most coherent and factually most complete compendium of this mess I have read so far. Much better than *any* mainstream media account. Good job!
Don’t feel like the lone ranger in regards to initially “finding Zimmerman guilty” and changing your mind. I did exactly the same thing, for most of the same reasons — I even argued Martin’s case on this forum — before the rest of the facts came to light and I changed my mind 180 degrees.
Thanks and FRegards
I had to use the title according to forum rules. I didn’t write the article. I’ve never doubted Zimmerman’s story.
>> Im not Bob Owens, I didnt write the article.
You listed yourself as the author — that’s where we’re picking it up, you know.
Of course you’re right . . . I don’t think that idiot wind Al Sharpton has even paid the defamation judgment on which he was held liable in connection with the Tawana Brawley case.
I listed myself as the poster. Bob Owens isn’t a Freeper as far as I know.
Monday morning I was listening to a black radio station here in NYC (WBLS). The host of the morning show is Steve Harvey, a comedian and also a person who has (or had) his own television show. That morning he presented a segment that was called Ask the Judge. In the segment a judge listens to problems individual callers present on-the-air and he (the Judge) attempts to give legal direction.
Just before the start of the segment, Steve Harvey introduces the Judge. He was none other the the Judge Mathis from one of those judge shows on TV.
So Steve asks the Judge, youre from Detroit, right? Judge Mathis responds that yes he is from Detroit but he is presently down in Florida to, help make sure justice is served. Steve Harvey then agrees with Judge Mathis that justice must be served and then tells the Judge to,just do your part and get him inside and well take over from there.
If this guy is imprisoned, he is as good as dead.
Why I Called George Zimmerman a Murderer, and Why I Was Wrong
PJMEDIA ^ | April 11, 2012 | swampsniper
Bob is a contrite sucker, let the riots begin.
You put the name of the actual author in the Author field.
Let it be a lesson to me. Never, ever trust the media to report the story. They are always working an angle. In this case, it has become as obvious as the sunrise that they spun this story to inflame racial tensions in order to motivate Eric Holder's people to come out in droves to vote for Eric Holder's boss.
Have you ever STARTED a thread? There is no provision to put anyone’s name in the little boxes other than your own. Using the original article title is strictly encouraged to make searches easier.. I didn’t write the title, I just followed the rules and pasted it in.
My *hunch* at this moment is that the kid was a gangsta punk in the making (twitter/facebook posts I've seen attributed to him...school suspensions) and that Zimmerman was a reasonably respectable,if not fully respectable,guy.
>> You and the rest of the lynch Zimmerman posse got the ball started,why stop now. The damage has already been done,at least admire your work.
Excuse me for pointing it out, “sport” — but that’s the kind of comment a flaming asshole would make.
__________________________ Teen witness to Trayvon Martins shooting couldnt see anything: Mom He kept telling them [the police] he couldn't see anything because it was too dark, she said. He said he couldn't see the race or anything." Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/video-george-zimmerman-killing-trayvon-martin-grainy-proves-lawyer-article-1.1052713#ixzz1rklwaQvK
Lots of people got sucked in by the MSM misrepresentation of events. It is a very good illustration of how we are fooled everyday. Be vigilant, be skeptical, and help spread truth and facts via the new media.
I owe you an apology. The way the areicle was worded, I thought you wrote the article. After this is posted I am going to request thar the moderator to remove my response.
I guess I’m prejudiced. I didn’t fall for the original story because it fit too nicely into the main-stream media PC racial paradigm.
Which means I never believe what I hear from them in the first two weeks. So far, I’ve never been wrong with this practice. I thought there was probably no rape at duke, too.
The time may come when I turn out to be mistaken. Real evidence trumps all, in my book. But until you have it, go with the probabilities.
Bravo Sierra, obtuse one.
IMHO, Zimmerman was screaming for help not because his head was being bashed, but because a life-threatening struggle over a gun had ensued. Martin made the mistake of assaulting an armed person, THAT is the overriding factor here.
Goddamn it, SwampSniper, don’t you know better than to just accept the media narrative? I mean, comon Mr. Owens, you know better than that.
Check out response #12 at the source - very interesting take on how/why we get fooled by the media.
I've been on board for nearly 20 years now, one of the reasons nearly everyone hates me. I never miss an opportunity to point out to a leftist when they have been victimized or screwed by another leftist.
Nice summary by Owens. Thanks for posting.
HOW could you say that from just those 29 words?
Oh. I see what you must mean. You went beyond the crappy excerpt and clicked the link.
Good rundown of events. I have to admit that I had a myopic view of the incident initially. I thought Zimmerman was a cowboy out looking for trouble. I started getting suspicious when a witness, a blonde woman, came forward early to say that she heard the cries for help and the shot and concluded that it was Trayvon crying for help because, according to her logic, Trayvon was dead, ergo he must have been the one crying for help, and she was pretty darn sure of herself. I knew at that point that she may end up eating her words and there may be more to the story.
Blogs are news?? Who gives a sh*t what this pinhead thinks?
Same here. I never for a minute believed the MSM version of what happened. I posted on quite a few threads on FR and got a lot of hell from fellow FReepers on how I was wrong and how Zimmerman was a cold blooded murderer. I endured some very vicious attacks from other posters. I notice that they have all slithered off to hide their sorry butts now that the facts are dripping out.
It should be an embarrassment to them to have swallowed the MSM line so quickly and so deeply.
I’m pretty sure SWAMPSNIPER isn’t a “blog pimp”, if that’s the point you’re intending to make. :-)
I wont get fooled again, and I hope that prosecutor Angela Corey, who dismissed the grand jury this week, wont fall into the same trap of trying to pursue a narrative instead of true justice.
Amazing link, sick - thanks.
No, he didn't. The questionable judgement was Martin backtracking to confront Zimmerman.
Glad the author finally figured it out over the course of days or weeks. It took many of us here about two seconds.
>> Who gives a sh*t what this pinhead thinks?
I do. It’s a well-written, well-argued, factually complete piece. I’d rank it *ahead* of the typical work of many so-called “professional” pundits.
On the other hand, I’m quite familiar with your posts, and they’re all low-grade drivel, and arrogant to boot. So who gives a sh*t what YOU think?
Well, no. The point I’m making is that he claimed he was the author of this blog. Which he is not. Then he posted an excerpt. A crappy too short excerpt that provided NO content.
He then got pissy about it. He has - in effect - hijacked his own thread. Most replies are focused on his screw up, rather than the blog itself.
But since you mention that he is not a blog pimp, then I’ll consider that.
Done considering. He IS a blog pimp. He posted this blog in News and not blogger.
Where is humblegunner when we need him?