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Former coach of the year fired from Christian school for out-of-wedlock pregnancy
yahoo sports ^ | 4-11-12 | Cameron Smith

Posted on 04/11/2012 11:02:40 AM PDT by rawhide

In an incredibly bizarre situation that appears headed for a legal challenge, a Dallas-area volleyball coach and science teacher was fired by the Christian school at which she worked for becoming pregnant before being married.

As first reported by Dallas Fort Worth network WFAA, Rockwall(Texas) Heritage Christian Academy volleyball coach and science teacher Cathy Samford was fired during the fall semester after she became pregnant out of wedlock. Samford had led the volleyball program for three years and had been named the school's coach of the year once during that span.

Still, that couldn't help save her job when she first admitted her pregnancy during the fall semester, with the school terminating her based on a violation of her contract's morals clause because it was determined her pregnancy meant she was could not serve as "a Christian role model."

"I looked it up and thought, 'They can't do this,'" the 29-year-old Samford told WFAA. "We all have different views and interpretations. It's not necessarily the Christian thing to do to throw somebody aside because of those."

While Samford and her lawyer, Colin Walsh, are working toward filing a discrimination suit against the school, their case may be complicated by the fact that Heritage Christian Academy is a private school, and recent Supreme Court decisions have defended the right of Christian schools to exert more influence on their hirings and firings because they consider teachers to be "ministers in the classroom."

"The Supreme Court, as a matter of fact in the last month, has ruled 9-to-0 that a Christian school does have that right, because this is a ministry, so we have the right to have standards of conduct," Heritage Christian Academy headmaster Dr. Ron Taylor, who acknowledged that the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission had contacted the school, told WFAA.

(Excerpt) Read more at sports.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: coach; pregnancy; wedlock
I agree with the school's decision. I am not sorry for her either.

Oh, and it is not an 'incredibly bizarre situation', as the biased reporter wrote.

1 posted on 04/11/2012 11:02:52 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

Duplicate.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2870756/posts


2 posted on 04/11/2012 11:04:55 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Psalm 144

Searching on ‘pregnancy’ brought up no hits, so I posted it. Oh well, sorry I guess?


3 posted on 04/11/2012 11:10:10 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

More like “In an unsurprising situation”...


4 posted on 04/11/2012 11:11:18 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democrat Party, the party of the KKK (tm))
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To: rawhide

Actually it is not duplicate.


5 posted on 04/11/2012 11:14:16 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democrat Party, the party of the KKK (tm))
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To: rawhide

No, my bad. If I could delete my own posts I would have done so. Different source, additional information.

I used to love reading the old National Review and The New Republic’s articles on the same events. Between the two you could get the whole picture.


6 posted on 04/11/2012 11:16:30 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: rawhide

Contract, duh. She’s got no case. Seems not too bright.

I’m a little surprised a woman sports coach is even heterosexual, actually.


7 posted on 04/11/2012 11:34:13 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Quien vive? JESUS! Y a su nombre? GLORIA! Y a su pueblo? VICTORIA!)
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To: rawhide
Photo for determining guilty or not.


8 posted on 04/11/2012 11:47:33 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: rawhide

I think it is possible to agree with the school AND to feel sorry for her.

Yes, this Christian school has the right and obligation to uphold a moral standard.

But we can also have mercy for people who make mistakes.


9 posted on 04/11/2012 11:56:40 AM PDT by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: rawhide

.... also, I am glad she decided to keep her baby.

She could have taken the easy way out and done the ‘convenient’ thing but didn’t.


10 posted on 04/11/2012 11:56:45 AM PDT by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand

The congregation can support her as a charity case, if necessary, without allowing her to violate her contract and continue as a model for impressionable children.

And can we stop saying “make mistakes” when we mean “sin”? There’s a difference.


11 posted on 04/11/2012 12:05:24 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Quien vive? JESUS! Y a su nombre? GLORIA! Y a su pueblo? VICTORIA!)
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand

“But we can also have mercy for people who make mistakes.”

We could and should. In the interview snippet she seemed more bewildered than anything else though, and conveyed a very nonchalant “that’s my morality” attitude about the event. If that is a fair reflection of her attitude, the school may have had little or nothing to work with. Mercy follows repentance as I understand it.

Agree that at least she is following the right course with her child. That is a start.


12 posted on 04/11/2012 12:17:41 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
When all is said and done, there is “no” excuse for a woman getting pregnant in this day and age unless she wants to for one reason or another. It's like reaching out and slapping God in the face. The “trust” is violated, the “role model” factor is compromised, it is a form of lying and cheating.
13 posted on 04/11/2012 12:20:35 PM PDT by Gertie
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To: Tax-chick

I was referring to “mistake” as in the Greek definition of “sin.”

- “a missing of the mark” (Vine Expository Dictionary Of NT Words)

Yes, she made a mistake. Yes, she “missed the mark.”

And yes, I agree with you that local Christians in the church or school could (and even should imo) help this woman who is now without a job and without health insurance.

Additionally, if Christian brothers and sisters don’t help support her financially, taxpayers probably will have to.


14 posted on 04/11/2012 12:24:43 PM PDT by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: Psalm 144

You may be correct. I did not see the interview.

But I do know that many people, when sins are uncovered, go through a period of denying responsibility and/or blaming others. Hopefully, this attitude is temporary.


15 posted on 04/11/2012 12:25:40 PM PDT by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: rawhide

If you are teaching in a Christian school, you are required to model Christian behavior for your students. This woman didn’t, and she deserved her firing.

She should be teaching in government schools where there are no moral requirements.


16 posted on 04/11/2012 12:29:20 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: rawhide
In an incredibly bizarre situation that appears headed for a legal challenge, a Dallas-area volleyball coach and science teacher was fired by the Christian school at which she worked for becoming pregnant before being married.

She violated a Christian moral standard that was a condition of her employment.

Does "incredibly bizarre situation" now mean "easily understood chain of action and consequences"?

17 posted on 04/11/2012 12:54:44 PM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: Psalm 144
Different title. Different source. Different author. Different dates for each article.

Not a duplicate.

18 posted on 04/11/2012 1:09:35 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
I was referring to “mistake” as in the Greek definition of “sin.” - “a missing of the mark” (Vine Expository Dictionary Of NT Words)

This is the fallacy of semantic obsolescence (adopting an obsolete meaning for current (NT)). "hamartia" (v. "hamartanein") may been used in some ancient contexts to mean "miss the mark". However, in the Bible it means "transgressing the law" (anomia). See 1 John 3:4 -- "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."

Read D.A. Carson's Exegetical Fallacies, chapter 1, for common word fallacies. It's not perfect, but it is approachable by most.

Here are some related links:

Linguistic Fallacies.

Linguistics for Students of New Testament Greek

Chuck Vine's.

19 posted on 04/11/2012 2:07:41 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Understood and corrected at 6


20 posted on 04/11/2012 2:08:50 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
I accept your conflation of amartia with "mis-take," but that's not our common, English meaning of "mistake." We mean, by "mistake," "I shouldn't be held responsible." That is a tremendous problem in our society, and I think we need not only to clearly identify deliberate sin but also to point out that many fairly legitimate "mistakes" are the expected outcome of behaviors that were under the control of the actor.

Yes, I drive my children nuts, but I won't have them growing up to be Democrats if there's anything I can do about it.

21 posted on 04/11/2012 2:23:30 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Quien vive? JESUS! Y a su nombre? GLORIA! Y a su pueblo? VICTORIA!)
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To: Tax-chick

I understand where you are coming from.

But here is the common definition of mistake to which I was referring:

mis·take (m -st k ). n. 1. An error or fault resulting from defective judgment, deficient knowledge, or carelessness.


22 posted on 04/12/2012 9:33:12 AM PDT by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
resulting from defective judgment, deficient knowledge

Well, if one wants to be egregiously precise - which I do all the time, but I hate it when others do it back! - we could certainly ascribe both "deficient judgment" and "deficient knowledge" to the subject of the article. Both qualities, but especially the former, render her unfit to teach school.

Perhaps the father of the child will marry her, and everything will be good for all of them.

And I would like to emphasize that it is not the lady's being pregnant that is the real problem, but her having sex outside marriage. Pregnancy and childbirth are not sins ... in fact, they are highly desirable, for married women.

23 posted on 04/12/2012 11:49:24 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Quien vive? JESUS! Y a su nombre? GLORIA! Y a su pueblo? VICTORIA!)
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To: Tax-chick

I agree with you. Thanks for your comments.


24 posted on 04/12/2012 2:05:28 PM PDT by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand

Back at’cha.


25 posted on 04/12/2012 2:13:56 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Quien vive? JESUS! Y a su nombre? GLORIA! Y a su pueblo? VICTORIA!)
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